Ksiusha
There are doubts about the need for a coffee maker, because in the morning we almost always drink coffee and I would like natural, not instant
Yana
I found such a coffee maker in the in-t store. It says: "A coffee machine on a wooden stand."

I liked the unusual design. I wonder what it is in operation?
zabu
Quote: Yana

I found such a coffee maker in the in-t store. It says: "A coffee machine on a wooden stand."
Choosing a coffee maker
I liked the unusual design. I wonder what it is in operation?
Judging by the picture, this is a decoratively decorated drip-type coffee maker. But of all coffee makers, it is drip coffee that gives the most tasteless coffee. I bought a regular drip coffee maker a few years ago, brewed it a couple of times and gave it to my niece. Even in a Turk (jesve) coffee is much tastier.
Then I bought a carob-15 bar. I whipped the froth for cappuccino. But the daughter twisted something and it was the chiffchaff whisk that broke. And so she made coffee normally.
Now I bought myself a coffee machine. For a long time I chose not to be very expensive and brew decent coffee.
The daughter really wanted Delongy. But we were all dissuaded at once, there is nothing to peck at advertising.
As a result, I bought a Bosch 6801. The coffee is very tasty, the warbler is also automatic, only when making it you need to press the button so that it stops pouring.
Now about the coffee beans. They can be stored in hermetic containers in the freezer for at least a year. But the only inconvenience with the coffee machine is that you can no longer pour frozen beans into it.
Yana
Zabu, I also thought that this coffee maker was decorative. It looks like it's not even electric, but warms up from an alcohol lamp. But the design is interesting, there is even a carrying handle.
I agree that everyone who has an espresso machine or a coffee machine admires the coffee made from them. They don't even remember about drips.
Caprice
Quote: zabu

The daughter really wanted Delongy. But we were all dissuaded at once, there is nothing to peck at advertising.
And rightly so, that they did not buy Delongy. In general, I am terribly disappointed in the products of this company, and in the coffee machine in particular.
Alen delonghi
About coffee makers.

The most popular, well-known coffee machines (espresso; many do not consider other coffee as such) among amateurs and professionals in Europe are coffee machines of the famous Italian companies Gaggia, Saeco, Spidem, Rotel, as well as the Swiss company Jura.
zabu
Quote: Alen Delonghi

About coffee makers.

The most popular, well-known coffee machines (espresso; many do not consider other coffee as such) among amateurs and professionals in Europe are coffee machines of the famous Italian companies Gaggia, Saeco, Spidem, Rotel, as well as the Swiss company Jura.
Bosch is an old version of Jura cars. As the coffee machine repair technician explained to me.
It is assembled in Switzerland at this plant. The coffee is great, easy to serve. But it creaks, an infection.
zabu
Quote: Yana

Zabu, I also thought that this coffee maker was decorative. It looks like it's not even electric, but warms up from an alcohol lamp. But the design is interesting, there is even a carrying handle.
By its design, if we discard the glass part, it is very reminiscent of the pre-revolutionary egoist samovar. He also warmed himself on a spirit lamp!
Alexandra
TURKISH COFFEE MAKER

I can't help but share. They brought me from Turkey a tiny electric coffee maker for real Turkish coffee, which is brewed under her supervision in a turkey. Before that I tried all types of coffee makers, and everything is not right. I even cooked in a chocolate maker ... now what I need!
I have Arcelic firms. Found in the internet that in Russia she sells goods under the Veko brand. And here is a double coffee maker for 2 Turks. Mine is half as much, 1 turkey.
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Yana
Quote: Alexandra

TURKISH COFFEE MAKER

I can't help but share. They brought me from Turkey a tiny electric coffee maker for real Turkish coffee, which is brewed under her supervision in a turkey. Before that I tried all kinds of coffee makers, and everything is not right. I even cooked in a chocolate maker ... now what I need!
I have Arcelic firms. Found in the internet that in Russia she sells goods under the Veko brand. And here is a double coffee maker for 2 Turks. Mine is half as much, 1 turkey.
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These coffee makers were sold the year before last for 9,000-12,000 rubles. But they were poorly bought. Now they are not on sale.
Alexandra
Quote: Yana

These coffee makers were sold the year before last for 9,000-12,000 rubles. But they were poorly bought. Now they are not on sale.

Mine is worth 125 dollars
Tanyusha
It's a pity that there are no coffee makers like Alexandra's, I would gladly buy one because I love coffee from the Turkish.
Yana
When I first saw a Turkish coffee maker, I did not understand what kind of device it was. I began to ask the seller. He did not know either and said that it was an ordinary coffee maker. It was only later, from the Internet, I learned that this is a coffee maker for Turkish coffee. And they sold this first coffee maker (they had it last, from the window) for 4500 rubles. Seeing my indecision, the price was reduced to 4000 rubles. But since I thought it was an ordinary coffee maker, I didn't buy it. More, for that kind of money, I have never met this coffee maker.
Mams
Quote: K.E.O.

Thirdly, espresso coffee is devoid of a fraction that has a diuretic effect, so in the morning at work, going to the toilet is not a tradition
That's for sure! And I thought all the time that it was my body that reacted to coffee this way, and when I started drinking espresso, I wondered why there was no such reaction ... Thank you for the interesting information!
Alexandra
Quote: tanya1962

It's a pity that there are no coffee makers like Alexandra's, I would gladly buy one because I love coffee from the Turkish.

In Turkey, we all visit one way or another, and not we - so relatives, acquaintances and friends. I just ordered it to friends, because I saw this at work and tasted the coffee that is brewed for visitors. Real Turkish.
Tanyusha
I already thought of ordering Alexandra for someone, but I don’t know if they are freely sold there or should I look for them?
Alexandra
As I understand it, in any home appliance store, this is a local well-known brand. I can't tell you where there are such shops on the coast - they brought me from Istanbul
Kosharik
Good luck! Please tell us about your impressions.
Found, in due time, a link to the forum. It discusses mainly carob coffee makers:
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And I bought mine here:
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I do not impose anything, I was just looking for where it is cheaper and came across this online store. Now they also have a store open, you can go - have a coffee and chat with the seller (though it's better to chat with the owner, his name is Dima, he is available by phone).
These are definitely the official distributors (I took out all the brains of Proxima - these are Saeco representatives in Russia).
Now I take grain from them (at a discount).
What I liked was that they brought me a sealed coffee machine, sealed with Proxim's branded tape.
What I didn’t like about the stores was that they all had one copy, everything was stained, and they were trying to sell models that had been discontinued due to a factory defect.
By the way, do not be alarmed if you find coffee in the machine - this is a preliminary test.
The machine you have chosen is an old line (I am not saying that it is bad, the coffee maker - it is also a coffee maker in Africa).
I just looked - there are brand new coffee makers from Saeco, you just need to study the issue with the cappuccinator (they write that there is both a Pannarello nozzle and an automatic one). Handsome men:
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And here is Proxima's website with a description of coffee makers:
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Freken Bock
Dear Colleagues! It is necessary to consult. Anxious about the choice of a coffee maker, I dislocated my brains. At the same time, the choice is not great: DeLongs, Roventa, Krups, well, and the bad brands are different. And suddenly today I just intuitively ask my husband to go to the coffee shop inside the hypermarket, and there ...And Saeko and Hajia! As for Gadzhia, the girl-consultant told him that there is somehow a special way to throttle coffee, not every mortal can do it. I looked at SAECO ARMONIA, but at home they read on several sites that the model was discontinued. Are there those among us who use this coffee maker, and are there those among us who have information about why it has been discontinued? And there is also the SAECO ARMONIA easy model, it does not have a cup warming function - is it necessary? I really look forward to your answers, dear.
Viki
Freken Bock, I can't answer all the questions, but here's one fact:
my close friend has a good friend who works in a home appliance store (not an ordinary seller). So to her question about which coffee maker to choose, he answered: Krups! And when she asked what the options were, he said that there were no options ...
Caprice
Quote: Freken Bock

Anxious about the choice of a coffee maker, my brains were dislocated. At the same time, the choice is not great: DeLongs, Roventa, Krups, well, and the bad brands are different.
Oh, I don't trust DeLonga's technique ... How many I have encountered - it is not of high quality ...
Cake
The Krups firm is not bad, BUT! When I decided to buy a coffee maker, I chose ONLY from the world leaders in this type of product. Because I think that even the simplest Mercedes is better than the fancy Lada
My choice was Saeko Magik Cappuccino. I saw her on the Eldorado network by chance. Was in Eldorado on the occasion of buying a multicooker and saw my dream-Saeko coffee machine for 6,000 rubles! Of course, I have an ambivalent attitude to Eldorado, but there were no multicooker anywhere else - I had to buy from them. I was tempted to use the coffee maker because it was sealed with a branded tape Proxima is Saeko's official representative in Russia + all documents and guarantees from Proxima + service centers are hers. I took a chance. OOOOOOOVery happy with the purchase! For not very big money - and an automatic cappuccinator, and panarello, and immediately pouring for 2 cups, and an insert for pods (although I did not buy them, they are very expensive) ...
Coffee is made quickly, no problems - 3 buttons in total, the foam is wonderful - both coffee and milk ... What else do you need for happiness in the morning?
Sveta
Here's my coffee maker. Also, after a long search, I chose SAECO.
Choosing a coffee maker
I have a simpler model than Cakes(no auto cappuccino maker). In my model, cappuccino can be made, but manually. That is, to regulate the amount of milk ourselves, but everything is the same. For beginner coffee lovers, sayeko is the best choice.
Sveta
You will always get crema in your coffee thanks to a special valve located in the coffee maker's horn.

Choosing a coffee maker

Freken Bock, models are discontinued, but new ones are also released. From everything that is on the market, you can choose a product to your liking.
And one more thing: the most important thing is to choose "your" kind of coffee. Good coffee taste appropriate.
Freken Bock
And I already have espresso and cappuccino! SAECO ARMONIA easy - not overjoyed

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Cake
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR PURCHASE !!!!!!! The cup in the photo is just aaaaafigitelnaya! Saeko Foreve !!!!
I wish your purchase to live in your house for a long time, happily, fruitfully and without breakdowns!
I wish everyone else no doubt and take only Saeko!
musyanya
I myself am not able to brew coffee in a Turk - this is my husband's occupation. I like coffee. But recently I read about coffee makers on a forum and thought: what if in a coffee maker, say even a 15 barr carob, is the coffee tastier? If it's tastier, then I want (!!!!!!!) a coffee machine! There is nothing to compare with, I haven’t tried any other coffee, say, from a cafe (or a coffee shop), and there are no real coffee lovers among my acquaintances. Coffee itself is different in beans, ground, etc., for sale, but coffee makers are a rarity (there are few stores with household appliances, the choice is sharply limited). Explain, coffee is different in the best sense obtained in coffee makers? Otherwise I want to buy something that I don't need at all! And suddenly it is necessary! (As I used to live without a bread machine, multi, yogurt maker, etc.! Thanks to the forum, I learned about these necessary, as it turned out, things!)
Tanyusha
Musyanya is anyone else, personally I only like coffee in a Turk, I don't like coffee from a coffee machine at all, it seems to me it's watery, but that's just for my taste. I try to buy green coffee beans myself, roast it and grind it before brewing, the aroma is awesome and the coffee too.
Caprice
I am completely lazy: I use Nespresso. You don't need to grind or cook. Suppliers deliver the capsules by courier directly to your home. But the coffee is not wateryth (Musyanya, tanya1962, coffee - m. r.) and strongui... But again: as a rule, in coffee makers and coffee machines it is provided that a cup of espresso is a cup of espresso, not a glass, not a mug, not a basin or a tub. Especially if the coffee maker is not an automatic machine and does not regulate the amount of water poured. And the espresso cup, as a rule, is very small! If the amount of coffee intended for a cup of espresso is added to a glass of water, then, naturally, it will turn out wateryth coffee.
Tanyusha
Caprice never drank coffee with glasses, I have special cups almost with a thimble, and in capsules I have a coffee machine at work well, I don’t like this coffee, but again, this is just my opinion and I don’t impose it on anyone.
Cake
Caprice, I agree with you, but very strong coffee is not good for health ... so everyone has to choose: substitute a cup or a basin. For those who do not have a coffee maker yet, I will explain: when you turn on the button for pouring a cup, first there is strong coffee, and then thinner, thinner ... then completely water ... so put any container.
On this topic. A friend came to me yesterday, I made 2 cups of coffee at once (I have such a function). I drank and NIRVANA, and she drank and ... BLOOD FROM THE NOSE GONE
The capsules supplied to you, Caprice, are called pods in the language of coffee manufacturers. (And one is pods) They are expensive in our country when compared to the ground version. Again, not all coffee maker models have a coffee pod insert. And, of course, to the owners of coffee machines, these pods are nothing at all
However, if you like these pods, write off the name, I'll try ... I must admit, I got burned at the cost, but maybe it's worth trying? For a change ..
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
It all depends on your preferences. Actress but, a lot depends on the device, and on the grinding of coffee, and on its type ... so it's impossible to say for sure: which is better, which is worse!
And in Turks they cook a burda, and in coffee machines ... It depends on what you put there ...
completely agree with the previous speaker it's all about good
coffee!!!!! turn the old coffee lover
I go to the tea and coffee shop on the metro, the ponds are clean there, though expensive
but the choice is gorgeous, I take grains because I think that coffee should
be fresh! and the smell
and then I prefer Turkish coffee and you can't make it in the car
k.alena
Quote: Musyanya

Here's how I used to live without your help (by the way, it's bad, judging by the bad experience of purchasing the first bread machine)? Thank you for helping me with advice!
Now I need a grinder with a dozen grindstones! And I have already seen what kind of model to buy! Or maybe my husband will buy me a coffee maker and a coffee grinder for some feat of mine ?!
Thank you, I love you all !!!
I have a 15-bar carob coffee maker, but there is no coffee grinder at all. We just have specials in supermarkets. departments for the sale of various types of coffee, where it can be immediately ground and grinded with varying degrees of grinding (for a Turkish, for an espresso, etc.) I buy for a week, during which time the aroma does not fizzle out in a tightly closed can.
Freken Bock
Quote: k.alena

I have a 15-bar carob coffee maker, but there is no coffee grinder at all. We just have specials in supermarkets. departments for the sale of various sorts of coffee, where it can be immediately ground and grinded with varying degrees of grinding (for a Turkish, for an espresso, etc.) I buy for a week, during which time the aroma does not fizzle out in a tightly closed can.

By the way, yes. We have a coffee shop located inside the hypermarket, where I shop on my way home from work. But we are still thinking about a millstone coffee grinder. It's a pity the choice is limited.
musyanya
I want to share my impressions of my new toy ...
Background.On Friday, she modestly announced to her husband that she wanted to have a coffee machine at home. The reaction was immediate and negative. During Friday and Saturday I tried to explain the advantages, but in vain, my husband remained unconvinced - coffee in a Turk is normal, other methods of preparation are not serious, coffee jockey (Russian) is normal, other expensive varieties are dope and razvodilovo. On Saturday we visited a couple of stores, I looked for an object for experiments, but also decided to read more carefully about this model. Since, for obvious reasons, it does not shine for us to buy anything decent in our city (Saeko, Gadzhia, Yura), I chose from what was. And there were a lot of droppers, Delongy, Roventa 180-horns. I liked 190 delongues more, and the price is not terrible (and Roventa is 2 thousand more expensive). On Sunday my husband bought me this toy - Delongy 190. He said that I would play for a couple of years and forget. I said that in a couple of years (or earlier) we will be ordering Saeko in Moscow ... I read a lot of not flattering information on the Internet about DeLonghi coffee makers, but not everything needs to be believed ... My impressions are:
Not a heavy thing. It does not take up much space (in the photo the coffee makers seemed larger than they really are). I read that it rattles, drowning out the TV-nonsense. (unless of course you listen at volume 2 or 3). The kettle screams louder (Ladomir). The drip tray is shallow. It's enough for me, even one third doesn't fill up after a few cups. The coffee is poured hot, but I read that it is not hot enough. (I drink coffee and tea as hot as possible, although it is harmful.) Esperesso is ready in 25 seconds, a trickle flows in the form of a mouse's tail ... The tablet turns out correct, it does not crumble. Everything works quite simply, it is pleasant to use the device. They also wrote that it is bad to put a container for water back, and water is poured under it - I don't have that. About coffee. I didn't have time to buy a proper coffee yesterday, so I tortured the old jockey. Of course, my cream is not what it should be ideally, because this coffee needs normal. I also made cappuccino. Foam is obtained from regular milk easily. And the coffee is ready, even if because of the quality it cannot be called real espresso and cappuccino, I tried it. I'm a newbie. Do not judge me harshly, but such coffee seemed to me a thousand times tastier than an instant burda, and not at all (!!!!) not worse than coffee from a Turkish, and even better! Turkish coffee is more sour and bitter, while coffee from a coffee maker has a more aromatic, milder taste, not bitter, not sour, leaves a pleasant aftertaste. And cappuccino ... I have never drank anything tastier in my life ... Today I will go to look for a normal coffee ... I can imagine how delicious real espresso coffee with tiger or leopard cream is ...
Until I bought a coffee grinder with millstones, I'm already looking. I use an old mechanical cylinder in the form of a cylinder, there is also a drawer, but it is nonsense. I compared the grinding of coffee visually, poured it onto the paper from a knife coffee grinder, the crumbs are absolutely different, and uniform powder from the millstone powder. Grinding is very difficult. I want a normal "ellistric" one with a regulator of degrees of grinding.
My husband liked the coffee. And especially cappuccino. I repeat that I do not consider my coffee to be a real espresso and cappuccino for obvious reasons (beginner, coffee is not of proper quality, a normal coffee grinder is needed, etc.).
Thanks everyone for the advice again!
Alexandra
Quote: Yana

When I first saw a Turkish coffee maker, I did not understand what kind of device it was. I began to ask the seller. He did not know either and said that it was an ordinary coffee maker. It was only later, from the Internet, I learned that this is a coffee maker for Turkish coffee. And they sold this first coffee maker (they had it last, from the window) for 4500 rubles. Seeing my indecision, the price was reduced to 4000 rubles. But since I thought it was an ordinary coffee maker, I didn't buy it. More, for that kind of money, I have never met this coffee maker.

Sold in a grocery store inside GUM, in the coffee section
Tanyusha
Alexandra and how much does such a coffee maker cost in GUM?
Alexandra
Quote: tanya1962

Alexandra and how much does such a coffee maker cost in GUM?

tanya1962

I could be wrong, I ran past - somewhere around 4500 rubles, it seems ...
musyanya
Sveta, coffee grinder brown kmm30, I still like everything about it (I use it every day), except for one, but this is probably the case for everyone: ground coffee is highly electrified and when I open the lid and pick up with a spoon, the coffee inadvertently crumbles around there is no way to eat without "littering". It is necessary to constantly wipe with a cloth. Or maybe I'm just clumsy, and you can carefully pour it without scattering anything around, and there is a coffee grinder in an not very convenient place, you have to reach for it. The rest suits everything.
I read on the forums about coffee that the correct dry tablet is formed with properly prepared coffee, and not otherwise. The correct tablet is slightly damp, retains its shape in the container, breaks outside but does not crumble, and sometimes there is an imprint on it. If dry and crumbly, coarse grind, large portion or tamp. If wet and out of shape - grind too fine, small portion, low tempering. I try to do everything as it should, the tablet for two servings of coffee is especially good, and when no one rushes me. I constantly change the degree of grind for different coffees, and the degree of tempering. I had no idea how much I liked the right coffee. Recently, we drank about 700g of coffee .... (when my husband used to brew coffee in a Turk, we drank 100g per year ......)
Alexandra
Just the one in GUM and there is a Turkish coffee maker for Turkish coffee, only electric. I wrote about her in this topic above
kinski
Maybe it's Turkish, maybe for Turkish coffee, but somehow the Turk is still closer to me))
Alexandra
I think it can be understood only after personal comparison

It was the Turks themselves who told and advised me. Everything is the same, it is also cooked in a Turk in a special electric mini-burner, it only cooks itself and "screams" when ready. In the morning it is very convenient, while you are going to work.
Sveta
Musyanya, thanks for the answer. I was just thinking about the Brown coffee grinder.
Caprice
Quote: Elena74

that is, there are some signs so that I can determine for myself - am I not like that or she?
Adjust the evenness and size of the coffee beans, then you will see for yourself. It has already been repeatedly written here that not every coffee grinder is suitable for coffee makers. A only millstones with an option to regulate the grinding.
Elena74
Quote: Caprice

Adjust the evenness and size of the coffee beans, then you will see for yourself. It has already been repeatedly written here that not every coffee grinder is suitable for coffee makers. A only millstones with an option to regulate the grinding.

I buy either ground or grind in the store where I buy coffee ... The very first coffee was ground right where I bought the coffee maker (that is, they seem to choose the optimal size - they ground me by 2.5), and immediately bought the ground lavazza, after that I bought a lot, in different specialized stores, where I ground it to an average size ... the result is almost the same, but it seems to me that the further, the more water remains in the horn ... maybe this is already my speculation, but sometimes , when I brew coffee for one portion, then I throw out half the horn of water ...
Caprice
Quote: Elena74

I buy either ground or grind in the store where I buy coffee ... The very first coffee was ground right where I bought the coffee maker (that is, they seem to choose the optimal size - they ground me by 2.5), and immediately bought the ground lavazza, after that I bought a lot, in different specialized stores, where I ground it to an average size ... the result is almost the same, but it seems to me that the further, the more water remains in the horn ... maybe this is already my speculation, but sometimes , when I brew coffee for one portion, then I throw out half the horn of water ...
Then maybe try a coarser grind?

Quote: kinski

And my half just brews coffee for me quite often))) he also likes a Turk ... it’s some kind of coffee maker ...... lifeless or something ..
My half also cooks. Brrr, how disgusting he does! And about the "lifelessness" of coffee makers - you got excited.
musyanya
Elena74, you can still read about the serviceability and malfunction of your coffee maker and the peculiarities of the operation of your coffee maker on the forum through the search, there is a lot of information from ordinary people who are faced with a similar problem and specialists who can suggest something. ( 🔗 I also really liked it, I got a lot of useful information for myself before buying a coffee maker and a coffee grinder, and what I can count on, having at my disposal the simplest ordinary coffee maker and essentially the same coffee grinder. ) At forum. there will be information about the coffee itself (which one is criticized, which one is praised), maybe you did not come across a normal coffee. Of course, I would like to know if your coffee maker is working properly or not, because in the future I would also like to buy Saeka (I would buy it right away if they were sold here). Maybe, after all, the coffee did not come across very much ?? I didn’t practice coffee at all for espresso coffee makers (the jockey is brown and black), and if everything is done correctly and if the coffee is not last year’s, the cream turns out to be the same color as it should, the height is 3-4mm, it is restored with stirring (I stir the sugar). There is even more cream with green Pauling, but I didn't really like the taste. I also bought a jockey for an espresso for training - have not tried it yet. So everyone scolds the jockey. As always, our choice is sharply limited, what is sold in grains in our stores on these forums is also just scolded ... On the other hand, everyone has a different taste.
Elena74
Thank you very much for your answers, they reassured me a little about the serviceability of the coffee maker. Now I will only try different varieties, since there are a lot of them.
Uncle Sam
Epigraph:
"Let's argue about the taste of oysters with those who have tried them."
M. Zhvanetsky

Given: a Delonghi geyser coffee maker, and a Delonghi espresso coffee maker (15 bar, with pump). I don't remember the model.

Brothers and Sisters, answer the question: is there a difference in the taste (smell, saturation) of coffee obtained in these types of coffee makers? The price is about the same. We need maximum results.
Freken Bock
Uncle Sam , it seems to me that all geyser coffee makers are the same, even DeLongs, though not DeLongs. In any case, the one that was sent to me from Italy and the one that I bought in a nearby store brew exactly the same coffee (in fairness, I note that both are not DeLongs). And the fact that DeLongy's carob is a rattle, not a coffee maker, almost your posts made me believe

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