Marina 9
Yes, I see you on many forums.
Natalia Dudochkina
: girl_dance: Hello everyone, I finally bought myself HP as a gift for NG !!! The mistress's dream has come true))) I've been baking bread in a gas oven for about 2 months, baking with sourdough, now I'm trying it in HP, + a loaf in the oven. I will write about the result later.
Masinen
Natalia is great !! Congratulations))
Our HP is good, just don't cook jam in it, otherwise the bucket will deteriorate)
AnaMost
Good day!

I choose a bakery for myself and my parents (that is, I need 2 at once) ..
I can't choose between this one, which, as they say, is a double of this one - 🔗 ..
There is also a similar oven (2nd form, functions), but in plastic Binatone BM-2169 🔗

I would like to hear several answers about this stove - (compare + and -):
1) Is it possible to independently program baking, remember?
2) who has been using her for more than a year, how does she feel?
3) Does it have a rubber gasket between the shaft and the bucket? they say that this gum shrinks under the temperature, and then liquids flow, the shoulder blades fly out ..
4) Can't you cook yogurt on it?
5) Is there a delayed start?
6) how does it knead, strong? Some people write that the dough does not mix well in a double mold.
7) Noisy?
Does it bake well?
9) what else can you tell us good and bad?

waiting for answers ..
Thank you in advance...
Marina 9
sergeshca
Good day! I purchased this stove. This is the second stove in my practice, I tried to bake it failed. I read the entire thread, but I could not find the answers to my questions.
How to arrange the kneaders so that they knead with an eight, as I understood from the photo, everyone has a bun consists of 2 parts and there is no point in waiting for one big bun. I am always going to bake in a single bucket, what weight to choose to get a tall bread to the brim. Where else can you learn the basics and recipes for programming your program, from recipes for other ovens? Share your experience?
sergeshca
I bought this model because of a large loaf of 1400 grams and a metal case .. I have been baking bread for 3 years, I have experience. Brought home, laid the ingredients, turned it on. When mixing, the drive works very noisy; when baking, the temperature maintenance relay clicks so that you can hear it in the far corner of the farthest room. White bread turned out with a sunken roof and not baked, which never worked on my old MYSTERY. I tried it again on "My program" # 12, but while programming I realized that the capabilities of this program are very limited. In general, the result is the same. I think that the model is not successful, it bakes badly, I took it back to the store.
Ta_pa
Hello everyone! I'm thinking about replacing Kenwood, I'm tired of changing the eternally leaking bucket ... Tell me how things are with HP Gorenie - how fast are they flowing?
Irene
Good evening everyone. A week ago, I became the owner of this miracle of Burning 1400, but I can’t make friends with her ... help me with advice ... before that there was Panasonic 2702, the bread was obtained the first time and there were no problems if it were not for the production marriage. .. the first bread did not rise and was white - they unscrewed the screw and began to brown, but problems with raising the bread remained ... I baked 5 different recipes - but the result is the same ... Here is the bread according to the first recipe from this branch (only water made 300 ml and 60 ml of serum)
Bread maker Gorenje BM1400E
Bread maker Gorenje BM1400E
Masinen
Irene, there is a bigger bucket in this stove. And for the bread to rise, as in Panasonic, you need more flour.
For example, 600 gr.
In Panasika, the bucket is smaller, so the bread climbs higher.
Irene
the fact is that here at 600 gr. flour ... doing this recipe
Water - 300 ml.
Serum 60 ml
Salt - 2 tsp
Sugar - 2 tbsp. l.
Vegetable oil - 2 tbsp. l.
Wheat flour - 600 gr.
Yeast - 2 tsp
Masinen
Irene, maybe it's the flour?
In general, you have a good crumb.
At the end of the last proofing, I usually pause the oven and let the bread come up.
The program does not have enough time.
Irene
So it rises only half a bucket ... and I have not tried to put it on a postponement yet ... if you pause, then you won't get morning bread ... and Panasonic had a completely different crumb ... my household is not happy ... they torture me, and I am KP, so that I get lush bread ... I think to master the 12th program and set my own regime, but I don't know how long to set which program to set? ... but I always used the same flour ... I'm starting to get upset .. it's not some kind of luck ... I love this company so much (all the appliances in the Combustion kitchen), but I can't find a common language with this HP
Masinen
Irene, I am also with her, then I am friends and the bread is gorgeous, then I am not friends and the bread does not work)
How much I have it and still looking for a common language.
Sometimes I myself do not understand why this time the zleb did not rise high))
Tell me, is this a warehouse?
Quote: Masinen

I am very happy with my bread maker, it bakes super and delicious)) you just were out of luck and it could happen with any company. Bork, not the best option, according to reviews, and I read bad reviews about kenaud. So it's up to you))) I wouldn't change mine for any other.
Do not use the main recipes from the attached book, but take them from the forum.
That's what the person writes correctly - in no case take recipes from the bread machine's passport. It is necessary to work with the dough, as the grandmother did with the scoop, work for about 6 hours. Take the 8th program on and knead the dough for 1 hour 30 minutes. Then repeat one more time. Take the flour weight from 500 to 700, and then the bread will no longer be gagged. So what if the stove is 1000-1200-1400? It must be divided in half, and even a kilo of dough can be finalized on the table. I myself went through the error method. The first baked goods were solely with respect to pigeons. But the pigeons said, if you crumble this to us again, there will be big problems (ahahahahahhhh)
_anya_
I'm going to buy this oven. But I will bake 90% of rye, coarse wheat, peeled flour and exclusively without yeast. This oven is suitable for these purposes, does anyone bake yeast-free bread?
albinkus
sazalexter, Good evening! Today I noticed that my beloved HP began to get very hot outside. Please tell me what the reason could be. HP Gorenje BM1400E
sazalexter
albinkus, It is difficult to say, it is possible to assume wedging of the rotation unit (s) in the bucket or in the HP, from this overheating of the engine.
albinkus
sazalexter, thanks for the advice, should I take it apart? I just live in Georgia and I doubt that there will be those xp service here
sazalexter
albinkusYou yourself are unlikely to do anything. Twist the shoulder blades with the bucket pulled out, the rotation should be free enough, without undue effort. If overwrites, a bucket for a replacement. You can try to buy it again through an authorized service. There are repair methods on the forum, but they are quite complicated, you will need a master, at least at home.
Forgot to clarify whether it is heated during kneading or baking? If it is normal during baking, and how long has it been purchased? If it is heated during mixing, it may be associated with general warming in the place where the HP works.
albinkus
sazalexter, Once again, a huge thank you to HP for my daily use for three months. It happens that you have to bake and three times a day, the family is big ugh, ugh, did not let down. It heats up during baking, and metal dust collects near the nodes in HP, is this normal? Thank you in advance.
albinkus
And yet, the shoulder blades are spinning hard
sazalexter
albinkus, Use do not pay attention, the more HP is under warranty.
albinkus
sazalexterThank you so much: girl-yes: calmed down
Melisenta
Dear owners, tell me if the second batch is disconnected during programming.
Kanifolka
Accidentally knocked down the program while baking (touched the touch menu with her hand). Is it possible to continue somehow or just re-enable?
Catastrophe ((for the first time bread rises normally and here such a disaster (((
Masinen
Kanifolka, so leave it and then turn on the baking and that's it
Kanifolka
Masinen, baking is set by default for 10 minutes. I do not know how long the 3 rises and baking lasts in the program.
Masinen
Time can be changed.
Na_mars
Can you please tell me is this programmable bread maker? Do any of you bake yeast-free bread in it?
Masinen
Na_mars, this stove has 1 programmable mode HOME MADE
sazalexter
Quote: Na_mars
yeast-free bread?
None of the KHP bakes matzah and Armenian lavash, only a cupcake on soda. The rest of the baked goods contain yeast, even sourdough
8. What is the difference in chemical and microbiological composition between rye and wheat leavens?
On chemical - depending on the chemical. flour composition.
Microbiological:
- lactic acid bacteria: depending on humidity and temperature - in wheat and rye starter cultures prevail - thick: L. plantarum, L. brevis, L. paracasei; liquid: L. fermentum, L. casei, L. plantarum.
Yeast - wheat - mainly - S. cerevisiae; in rye, mainly C. milleri; and not significantly - S. cerevisiae, when using infusions mainly S. cerevisiae.
Na_mars
All the same, fast-acting yeast (far from useful for the body) and natural sourdough are two different things ... I meant sourdough bread
sazalexter
Na_mars, Truth and myths about yeast
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Fantic
Good time of day members of the forum!
Today I ordered myself such an oven, but nowhere can I find the exact set ... namely, the number of dough mixers? I am worried that honest employees of our store will decide that I have 4 pieces of dough mixers too much, and will leave me only two ... or three as described above.
Please, if it is not difficult for you, write what configuration the Gorenje BM1400E Stove has ... THANKS for your answers.
Masinen
Svetlana, the stove has 4 mixers, two for a large bucket and two for two small buckets
Fantic
Maria, thanks for the answer ...: girl_claping: Now they won't get out ... Maria, if it's not difficult, tell me where to get human recipes for this oven ... I looked at the topics here ... and in general I had a DEH for 2 years, that's all in Russian, but I see that Burning is in English ... and I'm not very ... And in the intricacies of altering recipes, too, not very, I would be clear, without any multiplications ... You praise your assistant so beautifully .. I want to make friends like that too ... DEKH was a wonderful cookie ....: girl_love: Thanks for the answers.
Masinen
Svetlana, just do not cook according to recipes from a book for the stove, they are bad there.
Here on the forum take any recipe and bake only yeast should be reduced for Combustion. If writes 2 measuring spoons, then put 1.5
Fantic
MariaOh, why should you reduce yeast? Because the power is big? : girl-swoon: You write that it is better to bake on living? I always baked on dry, but now you can't guess what kind of left-wing firms produce ... Have you posted your recipes? I always baked 900-1000, but the output was practically about 750-800, but in this Burning I want 1200, then I need to take more flour ... right? Thanks for answers.
Masinen
Well, the stove is like that, if you put a lot of yeast, then the roof of the bread will fall. The dough is overridden.

I baked in different ways. Both large loaves and small ones.
And the big one comes out, huge !!
You can bake for 600 g-700 g of flour calmly.
Fantic
MariaThank you ... tomorrow I will get the oven (if everything goes well) And I will immediately start the oven .... I will definitely write in the subject how it went. Thank you again for your good advice.
Masinen
Quote: Masinen

Here is such a cool bread turned out in my favorite HP
Bread maker Gorenje BM1400E

Bread maker Gorenje BM1400E

The recipe is my own)
Here I baked bread in it.
Fantic
Maria, Wow class !!!! : girl_wink: Give me a recipe !!!
Masinen
Svetlana, but I don’t remember what ingredients are in it))
I mix all the bread myself))
At that time, I did not make recipes on the forum.
Fantic
Maria, Okay, let's do it by sticking ... And search on the site. We are not lost.
Fantic
Well, I baked bread ... the first two attempts using a simple recipe I think they were very unsuccessful ... the bread was white, not fried, on a dark setting with a thick crust and small (did not rise) ... I was terribly upset ... especially since there was something to compare (DEH) ...: girl_sad: Although it tasted wonderful, dense inside .... I made my husband unscrew the screw 1.5 turns and made bread according to the recipe for the DMV 202 oven, when everything was kneaded, there was no kolobok, there was a lot like pancakes, I restrained myself to add flour, decided to see the final result ....: girl-th: And so she started baking ...The bread did not rise very much, but not small either, so to speak, above average ... with very well-fried sides, but again with a barely pink top ... why I don't understand ...
Bread maker Gorenje BM1400E
Bread maker Gorenje BM1400E
Bread maker Gorenje BM1400E

And I don’t know why the roof burst .... The water was barely warm and the trembling was only 1 and 3.4 tsp.
Think about the principle of a kolobok. Who will say what?
GlowWormy
Good day!
Or you can ask to take measurements of the area under the double bucket, the dimensions of the screws and the center distance between the screws
I am very attracted by the idea of ​​two small loaves at a time ... But I have Moulinex ... Buckets seem to fit in size ... if these distances are suitable, I will order myself such a bucket with shoulder blades
Thank you
Bread maker Gorenje BM1400E
Fantic
GlowWormy, Good afternoon, my husband measured, measured from 0 (what you were aware of)
WHERE a = 175 mm, b = 65 mm, d = 110 mm. c = 30 mm. e = 35 mm. f = 20 mm.
Where will you order? If it's not difficult to reset the address, maybe it will come in handy (I will hope not)
Thank you in advance.
Fantic
: kolobok: Here I post pictures of my white bread 1300 ... wow, it turned out wonderful ...
Bread maker Gorenje BM1400E
Bread maker Gorenje BM1400E
Bread maker Gorenje BM1400E

Check = 5 days did not stale, did not crumble and there is NO sour smell .... Happy New Year COMING everyone! Good BAKERY !!!

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