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Attention to beginners! Congratulations on joining the friendly company of bakers!



Second part of the topic

Panasonic bread makers have differences in performance compared to others.
Please do not be lazy to study the instructions.
If you have any questions, read the topic

Features of the Panasonic 254-257 bread makers.

Don't try or try to tackle an exotic bread recipe or a quick baking program right away! Start with plain wheat bread on the main program!

Read the "A guide to baking bread in a bread maker" and study "kolobok rule" (see the necessary links below, they are "clickable") - this is your minimum. Please note that recipes are often focused on a certain flour standard that the flour sold in our stores may not have! Therefore, the kolobok rule allows adjust the dough at the stage of mixing.

Nothing else is needed to begin with.

We read the rest already after obtaining at least the minimum, that is, the first experience with the bread maker!

Realize that food volume and weight are not the same thing!
250 milliliters (standard glass) is only 160 grams of flour!

On electronic scales, the scale can be either in kilograms or grams, or in ounces and pounds. Be careful!

In chapter Helpful hints and help in baking bread
there is beautiful UNDERSTANDING BREAD IN HOMEMADE BREAD,
pay special attention The rule of the kolobok

All possible rules, errors and links to their solutions are considered in the topic

The bread did not work out again, I did everything strictly according to the recipe. What can be wrong?
Attention! There is an error in the recipe in the "native" instructions for Panasonic - the amount of water in rye bran bread. See HERE



Remember that ALL RECIPES for making bread in a bread machine are suitable for ALL MODELS of bread machines.

For beginners (and not only) there is a section "The easiest bread for bread maker models", which contains SIMPLE and affordable recipes for wheat and wheat-rye bread.

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Instruction manuals in vector format can be downloaded here:

Operating instructions for SD-2501 and SD-2500:
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SD-ZB2502 Operating Instructions:
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Here Amount of flour and other ingredients for making bread of various sizes https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1625.0

and here Recalculation of the number of ingredients in the bread recipe. Help for beginners https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=7646.0
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sazalexter

We are waiting for new models from Panasonic in April-June
SD-2500WXC
Breadmaker £ 119.99
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Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
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SD-2501WXC
Breadmaker £ 139.99
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Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

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SD-2501 what a delight with a huge dispenser and a humane price, true for England, 5700 rubles. In Russia, it will cost 7 thousand

There is also a rumor in June that there will be a model with a second yeast dispenser.
Here, and they say the Japanese do not read I do not believe it !!!
Rina
Yes, in the Japanese market with a dispenser for Panasonic yeast for a long time, I have even seen videos.

Well, at least it won't be for some of that "hassle" that you see, it is difficult for them to pour water so that it does not come into contact with the yeast
sazalexter
Rina It is even more surprising that this is a completely new design, they are not similar to any HP produced by Panasonic for Japan.
Rina
looked at the specifications for the 2501 model. What can I say? All the same modes as in 255/257, except that the "jam" mode allows you to cook compote. This means that the difference in the dispenser capacity and the layout of the HP itself is flatter.
Vanya28
Quote: Rina

looked at the specifications for the 2501 model.What can I say? All the same modes as in 255/257 ...
This is very mildly said, there is nothing fundamentally new at all since the 207/253 models.
Only the new design of the case and the number of fixed programs have been expanded to 27, while many modes are similar to each other and the differences in programs are minimal, the difference is greater in the names.
Example: we are looking at programs 04-04 and 10-09, the difference will be only slightly in temperature, determining the possibility of choosing the size of baked goods in one program and the lack of choice in another, well, etc. see for yourself.
There is nothing new that would expand the capabilities of this good, but already so ancient stove.

Russian-language table (for models designed for the CIS market)
(to view in full size, additional click in the upper right corner of the table)

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

Baking programs Accordingly, the time is indicated - Leveling, Kneading, Raising, Baking, Total.

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

Programs Dough and Jam with Compote Accordingly, the time is indicated - Leveling, Kneading, Raising, Baking, Total.

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

sazalexter
Do not forget this is an HP machine !!!! And for Russia the programs will be different Although in truth, since 1987, the year of release of the first household HP by Panasonic, little has changed. And is it possible to come up with something without significantly affecting the price of the final product. Everything has already been done by other manufacturers
Schapirinka
Today I discovered new models of the Panasonic SD-ZB 2502 bread machine
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

and SD-2501WXE
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

Interestingly, someone has already purchased this? Please share.
*** yana ***
it would be better if they made two or three programs for programming ... and in the kit there is a second round bucket. and the numbers on the display are red (or green) glowing ... and nothing else is needed for the Panasonic 255 ...
write them chtol where, Panasonic
Sens
*** yana ***,
of course, write!
Schapirinka
And what is the difference between a plastic model and a stainless steel?
SD-ZB2502
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
*** yana ***
Quote: Schapirinka

And what is the difference between a plastic model and a stainless steel? SD-ZB2502
the price. weight .... plastic eventually turns brown in places, scratches from rubbing, but stainless steel does not seem to be ...
Schapirinka
Thanks, I already figured it out. There is no yeast dispenser in the white 2501
Alxndr
Quote: Schapirinka

Thanks, I already figured it out. There is no yeast dispenser in the white 2501
Are they already on sale?
Schapirinka
Yes, they have already appeared.
aladushek
wow, I almost bought the 257th model - it ran out from the supplier and therefore in the online store through which I wanted to buy it.
now looking for SD-ZB2502, will it be sold in Russia at all?
but SD-2501 begin to officially ship with 24.07 at a price of ~ 8k, ordering from abroad is not profitable, I have already calculated the cost with delivery from the UK - it turns out the same way.
Katstlf
I have almost 2 weeks of SD-2502, I have not seen the previous models live. According to this, I can say that the raisin dispenser opens and then does not close itself as in previous models, the supper yeast dispenser, I only use it all the time, of course the yeast is only dry, in this model there are two separate start and stop buttons, I baked a little while, but all the times it worked, the dough rose, it is removed from the bucket perfectly, the spatula did not remain in the bread, it washes without problems. In general, there are no pretensions to the stove itself, I haven't figured it out with the taste of bread, all the time my family has something wrong, and while the store seems to be tastier, I'm experimenting
Rimma71
I ordered this beauty today:
Panasonic SD-2501WTS
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
They'll bring it tomorrow, I probably can't wait. So I want to quickly compare with my old lady SD-255.
Rimma71

They brought me a Panasonic SD-2501WTS !!!!! Hooray!!!! Such a beauty !! The bucket is black, the stirrers too, that's it, I ran for flour!
Katstlf
Congratulations on your purchase. Are the recipes in the instructions for this stove the same as for the previous models? Or is there a tone or difference in quantities?
Rimma71
Thank you! I haven't figured it out yet, but French and a few other bread recipes are identical to the old model. I really like that in the process of making bread, all stages are shown on the display: leveling, kneading, baking. Now my French is on its way - let's see the difference !!
*** yana ***
Quote: Rimma71

Thank you! I haven't figured it out yet, but French and a few other bread recipes are identical to the old model.I really like that in the process of making bread, all stages are shown on the display: leveling, kneading, baking. Now my French is on its way - let's see the difference !!
But he does not show the temperature in the program?
Rimma71
No, unfortunately, it doesn't show the temperature. But the menu is more complicated than in 255. The first French turned out nicely, the flour was Aladushkin, a little bubble roof, but not scary. So far I am satisfied.
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: Rimma71

I really like that in the process of making bread, all stages are shown on the display:

yes it is very valuable! and sometimes I will add flour to the kolobok, but it's too late, the stove has switched to the "proofing" mode.
Congratulations on your purchase!
Rimma71
Thank you.
Alxndr
I join in the congratulations!
Katstlf
And it seems to me that in this model there is not a complicated menu at all, everything is clear ... but I have not seen others
Rimma71
Actually, it turned out not so difficult .., I figured it out slowly ..
aladushek
Quote: Katstlf

I have almost 2 weeks of SD-2502
where did you buy? and at what price did it come out?
Katstlf
Here, unfortunately, I can hardly help you, I live in Austria, where I bought through the Internet, 180 euros. The recipes in the instructions are also a little European.
aladushek
Quote: Katstlf

Here, unfortunately, I can hardly help you, I live in Austria, where I bought through the Internet, 180 euros.
can I link to the store? for that kind of money, I will order from Austria, if, of course, they are engaged in international delivery =)
Katstlf
Of course, I can give the site, but they have delivery only in Austria, and on German sites I also searched only in the European Union countries and is not available yet, they write on the way
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Alxndr
Quote: aladushek

can I link to the store? for that kind of money I will order from Austria, if of course they are engaged in international delivery =)

Why, then?
At least Google gives out how many links. Type in the search - buy SD-2501WTS.
aladushek
Quote: Alxndr

Why, then?
At least Google gives out how many links. Type in the search - buy SD-2501WTS.
and where does the SD-2501?
Alxndr
Quote: aladushek

and where does the SD-2501?
Despite the fact that the topic is dedicated to these stoves.
Dial SD-2502. The result will also be.
aladushek
Quote: Alxndr

Despite the fact that the topic is dedicated to these stoves.
Dial SD-2502. The result will also be.
Turn on your head, I'm looking for a 2502nd model, it's not available anywhere in the Russian Federation.
Alxndr
Quote: aladushek

Turn your head on, I'm looking for a 2502nd model, it's not available anywhere in the Russian Federation.
I prefer not to turn it off.
lega
Quote: aladushek

Turn your head on, I'm looking for a 2502nd model, it's not available anywhere in the Russian Federation.

Why not? Here is:
aladushek
Quote: lga

Why not? Here is:
saw it .. for 10k, and this is not including delivery - thank you% _%
180 euros is an adequate price. add here a maximum of 20 euros for delivery, it turns out 200.
saving more than 2k.
Rina
Quote: aladushek

turn your head on, I'm looking for a 2502nd model, it is not available anywhere in the Russian Federation.
dear, I make a remark to you. What you are looking for model 2502, you wrote not on this and not even on the previous page. And our topic is dedicated to the whole series 250 ...
aladushek
Rina, but ban it right away. how dare you at all .. say, turn on your head
Rina
dare or dare not - do not argue with the moderator. And behave yourself. They wanted to help you, but received a rather boorish reaction. Now they will think whether to help at all.
aladushek
dear moderator, where did you actually see boorish reaction?
you still accuse me of all mortal sins, yeah.
Rina
with mortal sins - this is not for me, but for the priests.

The discussion is closed.
qu2raza
joining the ranks of bakers .. since 2502.
For several weeks I studied the forum and almost bought 257 already .. But I wanted Panasonic with stainless steel .. And on a business trip to the UK, a week ago, 2502 was bought. The difference in comparison with 2501 was 40f. (2502 - 159f, 2501-119f) ... But stainless steel and a dispenser were important arguments.
Already a couple of times they baked garlic with cheese - surprisingly it turned out very tasty ..
Vitamino4ka
Tell me, who knows where you can order SD-2502 ??? I really want to buy it. It is possible from abroad, with delivery to Russia ...





aladushek
Quote: Vitamino4ka

Tell me, who knows where you can order SD-2502 ??? I really want to buy it.It is possible from abroad, with delivery to Russia ...
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for Moscow is already available.
Waist70
Quote: aladushek

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for Moscow is already available.
How huge it looks. And what is it in real life in terms of dimensions (height, etc.)
Alxndr
Quote: Waist70

What is it in real life in terms of dimensions (height, etc.)

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tat-63
you can order at the office. Panasonic website

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