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Multicooker SINBO SCO 5024

Multicooker Sinbo SCO 5024

This is what a beauty awaits me to be sent to one of our common friends in the near abroad. At first glance, in comparison with Kuchina, they seem to be the same size.
🔗 But the pot in Sinbo turned out to be half a liter more spacious. Immediately, without wasting time, began (at the request of this friend) testing the saucepan. First I decided to boil it. And then I realized what smell the girls used to write about - I didn't have it in Kuchin. After "steaming" - pah-pah-pah !!! - the smell is gone.
dopleta
I cooked millet porridge in milk. The lid is absolutely clean and there is not much condensation: 🔗
dopleta
Quote: Rita

Wow! What a cute! On the face prettier than Kuchita, for my taste!
In what mode was the porridge cooked? Not burnt? Didn't the milk try to escape? Has it turned off itself?

Yes, Ritochka (), she is cute! I cooked the porridge in "soup", because I prefer not dry, but "smudge". Not burnt, did not run away. She turned off with a sound louder than that of Kuchina, she is almost inaudible. Of the shortcomings - the instruction is AWESOME! I thought it couldn't be worse than Kuchina's (although I quickly figured it out with her). How it happens! Everything that can be confused is confused. And oddly enough, there is no "yogurt". But on frying, you can set the temperature from 40 * to 160 * in increments of 20 *. At first I was delighted, having decided that 40 * is suitable for yogurt, but there the time is limited to one hour. True, then it remains on the "heat preservation", but has not yet figured out how much. Probably, as usual, for an hour. And I wonder why when "frying" you need a temperature of 40 *?
Quote: Sens

A heap on face will be prettier! D:
I'm not sure if this one still has flowers ...
Quote: Sens

Is the pan half a liter larger in general, or is there more to the top risk?
At all. I measured the total volume. And the risks are located there differently than on ours.
OlennaTM
Quote: dopleta

But on frying, you can set the temperature from 40 * to 160 * in increments of 20 *. At first I was delighted, having decided that 40 * is suitable for yogurt, but there the time is limited to one hour. True, then it remains on the "heat preservation", but has not yet figured out how much. Probably, as usual, for an hour. And I wonder why when "frying" you need a temperature of 40 *?
Most likely it will switch to heating for 24 hours, only the temperature there is higher than 40 degrees. You can still proof the dough, probably ...
dopleta
Quote: Rita

It is good that the saucepan was tested in such experienced pens, which will take a pencil, and boldly correct the instructions, bringing it to mind.
Yes, we didn’t work with the temperature regime and the timer.

I just wanted to propose. In addition to the main, regular instruction book, there are xeroxed leaflets attached to it - instructions for multicooker, the models of which I could not identify, there are mixed letters and numbers from various models: EB-FZ46-Y1 and EB-FZ56-Y1. So I will open these sheets of paper and amend them. And wait to get upset about the flaw in the mode and timer - after all, Olenna does not have Shinbo, but Redmond.
OlennaTM
Yes, yogurt won't work with Redmond according to this scheme.I tried it on water (2.5 l): within an hour the temperature rose slowly, then switched to heating and began to grow rapidly, after 7 minutes it was 57 degrees on the heating element, and in the bowl 51 degrees, after half an hour the water was already hot - as much as 78 degrees!
dopleta
Quote: OlennaTM

I tried it on water (2.5 L): within an hour the temperature rose slowly

So I decided to test it on the water. I put the "frying" on for 40 minutes, for 40 *. I checked the temperature every 10 minutes, and I must say that it ranged from 38 to 40 *, never exceeding 40.But on the other hand, when I switched to heating, it really began to grow, and after 15 minutes it was already 50 *, so yogurt - alas.
dopleta
Passed the baking test with a bang! The biscuit is great!

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Perfectly baked, not burnt - everything in moderation! Jumped out - at a time. The only thing I regret is that I did not simultaneously put a similar one in Kuchinka for an objective comparison. But Kuchina never has such a hot lid.
Agata21
I didn't understand something a little, can you set the temperature in it? a POSSIBLE MORE ABOUT MODES.
dopleta
Quote: Agata21

I didn't understand something a little, can you set the temperature in it? a POSSIBLE MORE ABOUT MODES.

Agata21Sinbo has two Fry modes. One - standard (but you can change the time and choose a program for vegetables, fish or meat) and the second - with the ability to set the temperature from 40about up to 160about in steps of 20aboutFROM.
Ronaverona
Girls, multicooker keep warm for a very long time. If you hold the yogurt on the "Fry 40" mode for an hour, and then turn it off and not open for several hours, then everything will probably work out. What do you think?
dopleta
Quote: Ronaverona

Girls, multicooker keep warm for a very long time. If you hold the yogurt on the "Fry 40" mode for an hour, and then turn it off and not open for several hours, then everything will probably work out. What do you think?

The fact that you get a fermented milk product is undoubtedly! Of course, the milk will turn sour. But who knows - did it sour exactly from what is needed or not? After all, if you do the same with milk and without leaven, it will be the same.
dopleta
The time allotted by the seller to check the multicooker's health is gradually running out. And if you consider that on the weekend we have a grand celebration at the yacht club and I will not have time to cook, now Sinbochka is working "tirelessly". Testing continues. Cooked sauté on Stew
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And baked a piece of meat
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Still no complaints. It seems to hover a little stronger than Kuchina, but there is less condensation. Apparently, 3D works after all.
dopleta
Yes - I forgot to write about another interesting function! If you press the button during cooking cook, then the temperature of the main heater is displayed, and if on menu - temperature of the heating element in the lid!
Erhan
I have been living in Turkey for many years and during this time several items of the Simbo brand were purchased, since this is the cheapest local brand. But today there is nothing left of what was bought - everything went to the trash heap, and the word SIMBO has become a household name in the family. Of course, there are miracles in the world, and Simbo could release excellent multicooker on the Russian market (especially since the price for them is very high for Simbo), but personally I will never bring anything to a house with this name again, even if they give it to me for free.
I apologize for being so categorical, it just boiled for a long time
Sens


For many years, Sinbo has provided a wide range of products and services to its customers in the small home appliance sector. Products manufactured and manufactured in Turkey are exported at any time and in the desired quantity to many countries.

By carrying out the production of products in high volumes, Sinbo, reducing production costs, provides its customers with high quality products at affordable prices. In an effort to best meet consumer demand, Sinbo is constantly adding new items to its wide range of products.

Sinbo set itself lofty goals and is rapidly moving towards achieving them - to become one of the significant and stable brands both in Turkey and all over the world.

Adhering to the high quality concept, Sinbo still lives with the desire to develop. With your support, while combining high quality with affordable prices, we will continue to innovate to make your life easier.
Rita
Right now, I will believe that these multicooker is produced in Turkey. Surely, they were ordered in China, and made at the brotherly Lakuchin and Redmond plant, if not at the same, therefore, the quality is rather the same, Chinese. And with Chinese quality, how lucky. And you can use things with different intensities.
dopleta
Quote: nadyanik

I understand what Redmond and Shinbo are doing in China, so what are the differences.
Almost all multicooker is made in China. And there are a huge number of clones among them. Therefore, only a person who tested both of them can answer you about the differences.
patir
Sinbo is truly an absolute clone of the REDMOND RMC M4502 multicooker. The only difference is in the price and the fact that the inscriptions on the control buttons of Sinbo are not Russified.
The instructions for the multicooker, although written in fairly correct Russian, are poorly understood in other places, and in some places contain inaccuracies. Therefore, having downloaded the appropriate instruction for Redmond, I quickly figured out everything. The lack of a collection of recipes in the kit is compensated by their presence on the Internet. I use recipes for Redmond and there haven't been any punctures yet.
In general, I am very satisfied with the quality of performance, design, functionality and reliability of the device.
Zima
Dear owners of the Shinbo 5024 multicooker, please see if your lid fits snugly to the body and is fixed in this position. For some reason, in my copy, the latch does not hold a tight-fitting lid, it rises slightly and a gap of about 1.5 - 2.5 mm is formed. If you press the cover with your finger, closing it "all the way", then the gap is only 1 mm. Does not let steam through. I took pictures of just a closed lid and if you press it with your hand. Is this a marriage or is it like that for everyone?
Do you think that over time, the lid will open spontaneously, as it did with some of Maruchi's owners?

Multicooker Sinbo SCO 5024
Multicooker Sinbo SCO 5024
Multicooker Sinbo SCO 5024
Rita
She carefully examined her Sinbochka. I didn't notice before, but if you look closely, you can see that the gap on the right is slightly wider than on the left. If the left is 1mm, then the right is 1.5-2mm.
If you look at the first photo, it seems that I have a lot less gap. And if you look at the second, then the same.
In my opinion, there is nothing terrible here. The main thing is that steam does not come from there. I don't think this can lead to spontaneous opening.
dopleta
Quote: Rita


In my opinion, there is nothing terrible here.

In my opinion, too. Is 1.5-2 mm a big gap? It seems to be like that in all cartoons. Only pressure cookers are completely sealed.
patir
We have a very bad situation with multicooker - only Panas is on sale. I bought my Sinbo quite by accident (and have never seen it again). There is very little information on this multicooker on the Internet. It saves that Sinbo-5024 is an absolute clone (down to the ornament on the lid) of the REDMOND RMC-M4502 multicooker. The only difference is that Sinbo's menu is not Russified. And according to Redmond, fortunately, there is a sea of ​​information on the network.
Every day I am more and more convinced that this is a great device. Buy - you won't go wrong!
Instructions for the device are unimportant, don't let that scare you. There is a high-quality description for Redmond on the Internet.
And lots of recipes for Redmond. The device has never failed.
I could provide useful links as needed, but this is not welcome here.
Seek, no doubt you will find.
And having become the owner of Sinbo-5024, feel free to switch to the forums on the latest model of Redmond-M4502 (there were two models - 4502 and M4502).
Rita
Friends, I flooded the computer keyboard with milk, now I have to queue up to the last surviving computer, so I can't fully participate in your conversation. I will transfer my message from the topic about device golics.
Arka,
Dopletochka sent me with an opportunity from Peter Sinbochka. I am very pleased with this slow cooker. Before that, I had a Panasonic ... Most of Panasonic owners then do not like other multicooker too much, because in it, indeed, everything is brought to automatism. But Shinbo makes me happy. And I will even express a seditious thought - in many ways it surpasses Panasonic. Of course, you need to adapt in some way. For example, it is better to cook porridge in Soup, because the Rice mode slightly dries the cereal. But fried potatoes on Pastry without any of my participation turns out excellently in one cycle, and in Panas I had to launch two, which is a very long time. Well, this is understandable, Shinbo is a more powerful multicooker, and her frying is more powerful. In general, I really like this cartoon, and I never get tired of thanking Dopletochka for her kindness.
And, in general, we have so many responsive and helpful people on our site! Before that, Tronic helped me a lot by sending me his Brand multicooker as a gift, which also helped me out a lot until Shinbo arrived. I had to give Panasonic to my daughter, who moved, and she needed to cook porridge for the baby.
In addition, this slow cooker has a very good saucepan, unlike the Panasonic one - plump, covered on both sides.
Rita
I also want to warn you: the Shinbo inscription is glued, and over time the letter "O" begins to recede. Here you need to be very careful, because the letter "O" consists of two pointed halves, one of which proportioned my finger when rubbing.
kubanochka
Quote: dopleta

Back in the last Redmond, there seems to be a deep fat basket. If I'm not mistaken .

I have a deep-fat basket in the kit.
dopleta
Arochka, most importantly, calmness! Do not panic! We all bought multi, some as many as several - and no, mind you, injuries! All the same, upon receipt, no one will wait until the pilaf is cooked. Therefore, I repeat - check the fit of the lid, the integrity of the non-stick coating, the presence of obvious external defects and the inclusion - that's it!
Rita
Arka,
I asked Dopletochka to make the dishes for which I planned to buy it - milk porridge, biscuit, meat baked with a piece. She coped with everything perfectly. Now I still make potatoes in it according to the type of guranga potato recipe. It turns out very tasty. I peel potatoes in a potato peeler. I cut it with a combine, like into chips. At the bottom of the cartoon I pour vegetable oil and put a little butter. I pour out the potatoes, salt, pour sour cream over it - bed five, mix everything, and put it on the Baking. After 50 minutes I get a soft potato crust at the bottom.
Arka
Quote: ks372

I understood about the 1st stage. What are the suggestions for cooking? extinguishing? frying? And I will adapt to our tastes. Do you need baked goods?
P.S. And it would be even better to know which button is for the dish and how long (if you need to set it).
Fried chicken or potatoes.
Porridge with milk
Pasta
Stew with a time extension (1 hour) to the main program and delayed by an hour or more.
Sponge cake or soufflé

Counter question: how about English? I can send the translated control panel

Rita, please help! Dishes are selected. We need algorithms for each
Arka
Quote: ks372

There is someone to translate the modes, and in principle they should be understandable.
Porridge with milk - millet (rice) milk can with pumpkin, for example. Maybe there are other options? Are pasta boiled or something else?
Stew - what kind? (except pork) - a recipe is needed. As with pilaf - is it needed? And what does it mean - "with an increase in time (1 hour) to the main program"? With a delay - understandable.
Baking - too, but where to specify the baking time of the biscuit, for example? Maybe there is a recipe?
Sorry for being so meticulous - I cook in a pressure cooker and a little on the stove, so from MV to you!
Any porridge but with milk, you can also with pumpkin
Braised beef or lamb, onions, a little water and a tomato are possible. In the program, extinguishing a set maximum of 2 hours is like. So it would be nice to check the increase in the main time.
Boiled pasta
Arka
Quote: ks372

Maybe there is a recipe?
Sorry for being so meticulous - I cook in a pressure cooker and a little on the stove, so from MV to you!
Oksana, I found the recipes. I post it here. Maybe someone else will come in handy ...

RECIPES REDACTED AFTER THE COMMENTS FOLLOWING BELOW

Rice porridge on a delayed start
Rice - 240 grams
Milk - 1.5 l
Butter - 20 gr
Dried apricots
Sugar, salt
Cooking process
1. Pour rice into a multicooker bowl, add butter, dried apricots and pour milk.
2. Using the "MENU"Set the mode"SOUP"(SOUP). (Default cooking time 1 hour)
3. For a delayed start, which on the display reflects the end time of cooking, press the "PRESET"(Preset) select one of the possible settings" PRESET 1 "or" PRESET 2 "(in fact, this is the MEMORY of a delayed start and you can memorize 2 values, for example, for morning and evening) and set the delayed start time using the buttonsCOOKING TIME"And"TIME»Set minutes and hours. Click "START».
Note: Let's say it's 14:00 now. We want to eat porridge in 2 hours. Set the cooking end time to 16:00. Do not set a time shorter than required taking into account the cooking time, in our case, for example, you cannot set 14:50, since this is less than the cooking time itself 1 hour.
Mexican noodles
Wheat noodles - 250 gr
Tomatoes - 200 gr
Olive oil - 60 gr
Garlic - 2 cloves
Chili pepper - 1/3 pod
Salt, spices
Cooking process
1. Boil water in a multicooker as follows:MENU"Set the mode"PASTA"And click"START". After the beep, dip the noodles into boiling water. Press again "START»To count down the cooking time. Throw the finished noodles in a colander, rinse and let cool.
2. In a multicooker bowl, fry chili and garlic in olive oil, add salt and spices. The button "MENU»Set the mode «FRY» t (Fry with t setting). The button "TEMP"(Temperature) set 120 ° С and press"START". After 2 minutes, press the "CANCEL"(Cancel).
3. Using the "MENU»Set the mode «FRY» t (Fry with t setting). The button "TEMP»(Temperature) set to 100 ° C. Press the button "COOKING TIME"(Setting the cooking time), then the"TIME»(Time) and set the blinking indicator to 10 minutes. Add finely chopped tomatoes and press "START».
4. After the beep, put the noodles in the hot sauce and stir.
Biscuit
Ingredients
Eggs - 5 pieces
Sugar - 200 gr
Flour - 170 gr
Cooking process
1. Beat eggs with sugar until thick foam forms.
2. Add the sifted flour and gently knead the dough. Grease the multicooker bowl with butter and pour out the dough.
3. Using the "MENU"Set the mode"CAKE"(Baking) and press"START". Cook until the end of the mode.
Tip: adding jam or finely chopped fresh fruit to the dough will make the biscuit more juicy.


Chili meat
Ingredients
Fillet of beef - 300 gr
Bulb onion - 200 gr
Eggplant - 320 gr
Chili pepper - 1/3 pod
Tomatoes - 400 gr
Garlic - 2 cloves
Cooking process
1. Cut the meat and vegetables into medium cubes, chop the chili pepper.
2. Put all ingredients in a multicooker bowl, add salt and spices.
3. Using the "MENU"Set the mode"STEW"(Extinguishing). Press the button "COOKING TIME"(Setting the cooking time), then the"TIME»(Time) and set the blinking indicator to 2.5 hours. Click "START».
Rita
Quote: dopleta

Of course! What Steam? Turn on the steam if you need to boil the contents instantly. More about porridge - cook on Soup, if you like wet, smear. And if dried, crumbly, then in Rice.
Exactly, exactly! But it is better not to cook dairy in Rice, it will turn out too dry. And do not cook on the Stew - the milk runs away.
Arka

And about the modes, I asked you to help with the algorithms, but there are doubts. And you are essentially silent. So you already help, correct the laid out recipes.

After all, neither I nor Oksana have come across cartoons in general, and even more so with this particular one.

Write about porridge in soup. What to include, what buttons to set the parameters. Let it be a mess, but just a little.

Are there any complaints about the rest of the recipes?

And what about the buttons for setting the time, Rita, Doplet? Is that correct? Or should I rule?

People who have Sinbochka, connect, help, please!
Rita
Milk porridge is cooked like this:
milk is poured, groats are poured, then press the Soup button, and wait until the signal sounds, about an hour later. If you don’t like it’s watery, then start the mode again for ten minutes.
Unfortunately, I do not know how to increase the quenching mode.
Arka
Quote: lga

There is an inaccuracy in the description of the PASTA mode. recipe Mexican noodles.
No need to boil water separately. Everything is correct here. After the beep (it will just be when the water boils), dip the noodles into boiling water. only nothing else is needed. Just pressing the "START" button to continue the program.

It seemed to me that the phrase about "boil water" was written so that people would not fall asleep pasta immediately, and then the algorithm of actions was simply painted. Yes? I didn't take it as pouring boiling water into a cartoon. But while there is no practice, any recommendation from the instructions can be interpreted in your own way.
Thank you for trying to avoid any misunderstandings!
dopleta
Quote: Rita


Unfortunately, I do not know how to increase the quenching mode.

On Extinguishing, the time is added up to 12 hours, everything is written in the instructions.

Quote: Arka

Rita, thanks for the quick response !!!
But there are still questions ...
How much to fill / fill? Can I use grams?
"press the soup button" - where is that button? I do not understand

How do you set the clock to local time?

Soup in English soup, will be displayed when you press the menu. How much to add for your soup - choose yourself, your own soup, according to your recipe! The main thing is not to overfill the max mark.
Setting the time is also quite clear in the instructions, I immediately set Rita with the Preset and time buttons.
dopleta
Quote: Arka

Doblet, thank you for the SOUP! Clear. So you can leave the ingredients according to the recipe (see above), but choose SOUP instead of STEAM from the menu. What buttons? Do you remember?

At the top left, there are Time and Cooking time buttons. Here are them.

Quote: Rita


Unfortunately, I do not know how to increase the quenching mode.

Ritochka, but didn't I write this to you when I was correcting the instructions? I thought I was writing ...
Rita
Arka,
forgive me, I cannot answer you quickly and often - there is only one computer left at home, and it’s turn to him. I filled my netbook with milk, it is being repaired.
The multicooker has a measuring cup. In milk porridge, for one measuring cup of cereal, there are 3 measuring cups of milk, and for millet - 4 cups of milk.
The time is set, you need to click on the preset and use the time and cooking time buttons to change the hours and minutes. One changes hours, the other - minutes.
dopleta
Quote: Rita

Arka,
One changes hours, the other - minutes.

Oh, RitaI think you're wrong. One button (it seems to be the Cooking time button) turns on the ability to set the time, which we produce with the Time button. Each time you press the Time button, specific minutes are added. When we have reached the required minutes, press the Cooking time again and set the hours with the Time button. This is me about choosing the required cooking time. Yes, I remember, just like that. AND Arkaplease stop thanking me after every answer, I really feel embarrassed.
Rita
Quote: Arka

Girls, Shinbo did not submit to me, did not grow together with the purchase.
But! I'll have Redmond! Oksana is already testing it!
Thanks to your searches, I found that Redmond 4502M is identical with my Sinba, and there is a normal instruction for it in the relevant topic. The only difference is that in Redmond the buttons are in Russian. It turned out that I was not you, but you helped me. Thank you!
Hotdog
I ask the audience for help, please!

"Carefully remove the outlet valve."
(I am learning to follow the instructions of Redmond, since there was no instruction).

I can’t take it off, neither neatly, by anything ...
Hotdog
Rita, Thank you!

While the first emotions - delight, with bated breath. I baked ("stewing") the legs without culinary delights (40 minutes + "frying" 5 minutes for the crust of the reverse side, the bottom was rosy, next time I put it for 3 minutes). I even overshot it, which doesn't sound like me.
Arka , the store said so "now you are related."
tv2000
Hello everyone!
I choose the first multicooker. First I settled on the new Brand models (30702 and 30701), but in one there is no way to manually set the temperature and time, and in the other - not a ceramic bowl. Redmond RMC-M4502 is good, but expensive, especially when you consider that I definitely need to buy a ceramic bowl for it (about 1,500). In terms of price-functionality ratio, I liked the Sinbo SCO-5024 (still a copy of Redmond RMC-M4502, but for a reasonable price).

Q: Is the bowl from Redmond RMC-M4502 suitable for Sinbo SCO-5024? Will a bowl from Maruchi RW-FZ47 or Maruchi RB-FC46 work?
The fact is that for these models you can buy a separate CERAMIC bowl, and this for me is one of the main wishes for a multicooker.If the bowls fit, then the synbochka is the perfect choice for me now. If possible, try to put these bowls in a blue barrel, or at least indicate the exact dimensions of the bowls.
Thank you in advance.
tv2000
And another question: is Simbo a copy of 16 software Redmond or 10 software?
tv2000
They wrote that a copy of the latter means 16-program. models of redmond, but I want to make sure of this for sure.
Rita
Quote: tv2000

And another question: is Simbo a copy of 16 software Redmond or 10 software?
Shinbo is a copy of Redmond M4502. You can compare their displays - one to one, only at Shinbo in English. I will not say anything about pots, since I do not have those multicooker that you are asking about. On the first page of the topic, Doplet compared the saucepan of Lakuchina and Shinbo, there is even a photo. So Lakuchina has a slightly smaller saucepan.
Rita
I just tried on a bowl with Brand's ceramic coating - it is the same height and width, so it comes in and the lid closes. BUT! It has a completely different bottom, and even the heating element in Brand has a different shape, adjusted to the shape of the bottom of the bowl, so this shape in Xinbo will not heat up well.
tv2000
Hello everyone!
There is one more multicooker similar to Simbo - Kromax Endever MC-87 (88.89-difference only in color), 16 programs. "There is an independent setting of time, temperature and mode for dishes according to your signature recipes." For the price, they are almost the same with Simbo. Has anyone encountered it?
Zima
Quote: Rita

I just tried on a bowl with Brand's ceramic coating - it is the same height and width, so it comes in and the lid closes. BUT! It has a completely different bottom, and even the heating element in Brand has a different shape, adjusted to the shape of the bottom of the bowl, so this shape in Xinbo will not heat up well.
And I specially bought a Brand bowl (I did not wait for the Redmond ceramic bowl to appear) and use it in the Sinbo 5024 multicooker. Yes, the bottom is different, but I did not notice that the contents in the brand bowl were heated for a long time. It's a risk, of course, to use it like that, but I decided for myself that if the multicooker breaks down, it's not a pity, now you can buy Sinbo for 2500. Two bowls are much more convenient than one. And the quality of the bowl is very good, and I really wanted a ceramic one.
I'm 200% sure that the Redmond and Shinbo bowls are identical. Nobody paid attention to the fact that these multicooker even have the same numbers in the articles, only in a different order (0,2,4,5). I am sure that they are from the same conveyor. It's just that Redmond invests in promotion, printing. Well, the margin is higher, someone on Yandex wrote that the purchase price of the online store is 3000 rubles, and Redmond forces everyone to keep the minimum price of 5000. It is not for nothing that in some online stores the delivery of this model (and Maruchi 47, by the way) is free - can afford with such a markup.
At Lakuchina, the displacement of another bowl is 4 liters. As in Maruchi 46 and 47.
tv2000
Zima, how many automatic programs are there in the simbok? And most importantly - is there a "multi-cook" mode - manual time and temperature settings with a choice of mode?

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