Rina
Yes, and one more thing: after all, it is Panasonic who is the ancestor of the home automatic bakeries since 1987). He has his own production, completely original developments.
nojabrina
Can you please tell me if French baguette can be baked in Panasonic bread makers? Probably you need some kind of special form? We don't have our own bread machine yet, so I'm sorry if the question seems strange.
Rina
A pair of moulinex models and a pair of similar inexpensive models are equipped with baguette forms.

Each oven has a bucket form in which the dough is kneaded, strained and baked. The shape can be either rectangular (square) or round. For baguettes, a separate form is needed - this is a kind of frame form with pallets. The baguettes are baked in the following way - the dough is kneaded in the main form-bucket, then you need to remove this dough from the mold, mold usually four small baguettes with your hands, put them on trays, put the mold with trays in the oven. There are four small buns at the exit. Most often, the owners of baguette holders cool off quickly enough to this function - there is too much trouble, but the result is small.

In my opinion, it is better to focus on a good bread maker (which Panasonic is). And if you really want to, you can bake baguettes in the oven. In extreme cases, you can purchase or make a handicraft (if you have a handy husband, dad or uncle) a suitable stand, put it inside an ordinary bread machine, use the "baking" program (it can be found in almost any oven). You can see more details HERE.
Rina
By the way, here is a very specific example of using the Mulinex baguette holder in modern Panasonic
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=173600.0
irbis
Girls, good evening! Sorry, but I didn't want to create a new topic, so I climbed in here. I see most of the Panasonic lovers here, but I sit and really choose between Kenwood and Panasonic, maybe someone can clearly name the pros and cons of both models, or at least significant differences besides the price. thank you very much to everyone who can help ...
Elena8
irbis, in Panasonic the quality and taste of bread is much better than in other CPs. This is my fourth stove and the best. I also had Kenwood (though the cheapest), the bread turned out to be heavy. And yet no other bread maker has so many types of dough as in Panasonic.
Rina
about the amount of dough - these are the subtleties that you don't always get into. I really use only one "test" program in Panasonic - "pizza". A couple of times "yeast with raisins", when it was too lazy to watch the moment needed to throw in additives.

irbis, there are not only Panasonic drivers. We just love our stoves very much, they are quite problem-free. If, for example, my stove was the first for me, then there are users who already have these stoves second, after both branded and non-branded ones. And the comparison is almost always in favor of Panasonic.

As for Kenwood, it depends on which model you are going to purchase. You need to communicate in a specialized topic. I love this company very much: I have three units of equipment of this particular brand (moreover, two of them are more expensive than a bread maker), I am going to buy a fourth one.

I presented the undoubted advantages of Panasonic just a few posts ago - the first post on this page.
I will not be lazy, I will repeat:
1. The technique itself is of high quality - breakdowns are very rare (I was among the repairers, but managed on their own - once again, a huge THANKS to the men of our forum who advised me). The design is well thought out. The stove is quiet.
2. Spare parts (buckets, mixers) are almost always available.For all their high cost, they are rarely required, if you do not violate the rules of operation (I bought a bucket and a stirrer; a bucket - only because of my curvature).
3. ALL programs work adequately.
4. The quality of the bread is consistently high. moreover, regardless of the temperature in the kitchen. In hot weather, the dough will not ferment, but in cold weather it will stand exactly as much as needed.
5. Kneading the dough is beyond praise. Our pies and pizzas are no longer weekend dishes, but quite ordinary ones.
irbis
Oh, girls, sorry, I probably really should have indicated the models: Panasonic 2501 and Kenwood 450 or 900 (in 900 they speak better with two dough mixers) I was tortured: - \ b, is the price of Kenwood worth the design from which I'm so bastard at 450 or too high .. .... You see, extra money never happens, I would like not to overpay, and therefore became on the road.
Rina
in this design kenwood 450, there have been instances of the glass lid actually exploding. Of course, the chance is small, but it is there. Plus: will you use programming modes?

Kenwood BM 900 with two agitators - Do you need bread for a large family? There, the size of the bread is declared 1000-1500 grams. In Panasonic, ready-made simple bread is from 500 to 900 grams (1250 grams is a heavy butter bread with additives).
P.S. Started watching a video on kenwood 900. Apparently, from the official site ... So there the dispenser is called a disBUTnserom
irysska
Quote: Rina

Plus: will you use programming modes?
and I, for example, sometimes really, really want a programming mode without it, of course, you can do without it, and I can do it, but very hot
irbis
Girls thank you very much for your help! To be honest, in Kenwood I really like the design of the 450, this is probably its only advantage, but against this there is a rather high price ... And the power in the Kenwood is 780, and in the Panasonic 550. As for two dough mixers, friends say that one does not mix well
(they have lies). That's probably all the advantages of Kenwood ...... and then the notorious and what if ......... breaks down and how great the probability is in Kenwood and in Panasonic, thanks to Rina for the sensible feedback on the reliability and repair of Panasonic. I'll try to look in the topic at Kenwood ... if I find it ...
Rina
More power does not always mean that the stove is better. The question is rather where the energy is actually being spent. And kneading with one mixer - this is where it turns out, who is as lucky. In Yunold, I have a lower quality batch. In Panasonic - beyond praise. And in a large form with two mixers, for example, you cannot knead a small amount of dough - there will be a lump of dough spinning on the mixers ... this was also described.
Elena8

Although the possibility is in Panasonic 550, the dough kneads perhaps best of all with one mixer. And for comparison, Moulinex with two mixers and power more cope with bread worse.
sazalexter
Wattage is indicated on the heater. For baking bread in 1000gr-1200gr, 550wt of heating element, it is enough with a margin Just like one scapula for this weight is quite enough
teleologiya
I really want to buy a bread maker ... I sit and choose. but therefore post, I understand that you need to choose Panasonic. All the pluses are on the face. Everyone writes happy. Of course, every product has negative negative reviews. But it normal. But I hope I'll buy it, and everything will be ok .... I hope I won't get into the group of defective ones.
mowgli
I had a Lzh, and now Panasonic, if I buy I will take it again. I'm really still looking at Kenwood
Natusichka
Please help me choose a bread maker.

The situation is this: for church needs it is necessary to knead the dough (for prosphora). There was a bread maker, now we cannot find spare parts for it: a bucket and shovels. Therefore, you need to buy something else. Kneaders are very expensive. The parish consists mainly of grandmothers with a minimum pension, so there is no way to buy something good and expensive.
Please tell me what to opt for. It is necessary that she knead the dough well and no more. For about 1 kg of flour.
IP
I have an inexpensive burning.I like that there are functions of dough, kneading and a function programmed for your mode.
Natusichka
Elena, Thank you! Can you tell me the model?
IP
Gorenje BM900 WII / BKC bought in August, chose the manufacturer according to the price and country, the seller said that the bakery of this particular company causes the least complaints from buyers. I use it often, I even tried the yogurt function - it turns out great!
Natusichka
I realized thanks!
Bast1nda
Panasonic without options.
There were many, but the quality of the details and, most importantly, the programs for bread in Panas are impeccable, they bought Panas Iipromto were in a great shock and the first fervor, why ... we used to toil with Phillips, Binatons, Mulinexes ...
And inexpensive kneaders are in the metro, after all, these are different tasks.
alex52860
All stoves are good only the price is different and the name. Buy what you like and listen less, everyone praises their stove.
Marisha Aleksevna
Quote: Bast1nda
Panasonic without options.
There were many, but the quality of the details and, most importantly, the programs for bread in Panas are impeccable, they bought Panas Iipromto were in a great shock and the first fervor, why ... we used to toil with Phillips, Binatons, Mulinexes ...
And inexpensive kneaders are in the metro, after all, these are different tasks.
I totally agree. Panasonic is a super cool bread maker!
Natusichka
And what is the model?
sazalexter
Natusichka, Any
Marisha Aleksevna
Quote: Natusichka
And what is the model?
Yes, any. There are models with rye bread baking and, accordingly, an additional spatula and without rye baking, there are with and without a dispenser, there are with various additional programs. In general, there are many models, here you have to choose what you want.
lega
Quote: Natusichka
For about 1 kg of flour
Quote: Marisha Aleksevna
Panasonic is a super cool bread maker!

Panasonic is the best bread maker, but flour is only 600g maximum, no more according to the instructions.
Wit
Quote: alex52860
All stoves are good only the price is different and the name.
Don't be cunning
The price is also different from the capabilities of the bread maker, reliability, workmanship. At the beginning of the bakery journey, I also decided not to bother and buy a thousand for one and a half. I went here (and not on the Market) and began to read reviews of the real owners (and not fake ones, as on some sites). I learned a lot of interesting things! And about bread makers dancing on the table, and running around the kitchen)), and thundering roaring, and ... all sorts of things, in general. My fifteen hundred cried - I bought Panasonic for 4500 (prices ... the twentieth year) and I am very pleased and grateful for the help in choosing the members of the forum and the members of the forum.
Marisha Aleksevna
Quote: Wit
At the beginning of the journey, I also decided not to bother and buy a thousand for one and a half
Good equipment will not be very cheap, especially since we do not buy it every day, but it’s not worth overpaying. Panasonic, of course, is a little more expensive, but it's worth it.

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