grandmothers
Alas for us. In a city with big claims to the capital, there is no store where they will calculate something with you. For the most part, after reading and having seen enough, with a speech and information in my hands, I catch the seller and shake him with all my might. Thus, sometimes something succeeds, but in most cases it ends with my lecture on goods. which they sell. The sink has already been purchased and has a central drain.
Admin
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The sink has already been purchased and has a central drain.

A 5-stage filter with a hydraulic tank will also fit under such a sink. Before that I had a sink of 50 cm from the center. drain, and the cleaning system fits perfectly under it.
kava
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Retractable shelves for bottles. The width of such a shelf is only 15 cm.
It is good to plan such retractable shelves where, when planning the kitchen, there are unfilled spaces between the furniture. That's how I have these gaps between the tables "sealed" with pull-out shelves, which turned out to be very convenient - everything is at hand and everything is in place and is not visible.

I join Admin. When we ordered the kitchen, we also tried this and that, making the most of the available space, and such a pull-out shelf turned out to be a lifesaver (albeit the most expensive of all the constituent modules). Now it is impossible to imagine our kitchen without it. The doors for the mezzanine were made to order for the kitchen, so as not to get out of the picture. The cabinet above the hood is also a very good find:

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And this is how the whole kitchen looks like

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In general, the kitchen is a favorite place for us and our friends.
Hairpin
I'm here again. I was about to order new facades and got a little stuck. At first, they tried to prove to me on the phone that I needed a bedside table for the dishwasher, and then they simply counted two identical facades of 45 cm. Is it correct that the door under the sink 45 cm and the facade under the dishwasher differ only in the location of the handle? Or should the front under the dishwasher be special?
Jefry
Quote: Hairpin

At first, they tried to prove to me on the phone that I needed a bedside table for the dishwasher, and then they simply counted two identical facades of 45 cm. Is it correct that the door under the sink 45 cm and the facade under the dishwasher differ only in the location of the handle? Or should the front under the dishwasher be special?
The facades are standard! 20,30,40,45,50,60 cm and height 71! The dishwasher takes up the entire space. Close to the wall and adjacent lockers. After all, I also first made a 45 cm locker, but after purchasing the PMM I had to disassemble it.
Scarecrow
Quote: Hairpin

I'm here again. I was about to order new facades and got a little stuck. At first, they tried to prove to me on the phone that I needed a bedside table for the dishwasher, and then they simply counted two identical facades of 45 cm. Is it correct that the door under the sink 45 cm and the facade under the dishwasher differ only in the location of the handle? Or should the front under the dishwasher be special?

Yes, the fronts differ only in the position of the handle. The facades are unified. And if in the cabinet under the sink the facade hangs on hinges (as I understand you have swing doors), then on the PMM the same facade will be fixed in a special way on the car door (there are fasteners for this). That's all. Do you have a built-in PMM?
jinar
and I, following in the footsteps of Hairpins, decided to also buy the missing doors - glass - for the kitchen
and I got ... it turned out that such as I want, in a thin frame, the same up and down can not be, and they stand ...
now I think to put just 2 glass doors upstairs without a frame, but down?
you can go "the other way" - put a new door and change it at the dishwasher for a darker color than it is now - it will turn out well, very original ...
Hairpin
Jinar, or maybe put a photo of the kitchen? And we will advise here !!!
jinar
I brought the kitchen to the discussion!
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I can take a few more photos if needed
the question is - how and how to close the holes at the top (2 boxes-corner and 2nd from the left) and 1 below (where is the microwave)
I consider glass options - the upper ones are glass without a frame (white matte or golden), and with the bottom it is not at all clear (((
natalka
Why is it not clear with the bottom? Is there a custom size or what? If standard, then there are such doors. Write down the size of the bottom drawer to the microwave.
jinar
natalka yes, the size is just standard - an ordinary box 60cm - but there is no such facade (((
and I can't decide yet - close the microwave or leave
the bottom drawer under it is planned to be rolled forward
there was an option to make 2 doors of a different color at the bottom - where is now the micra and the middle one on the other side
jinar
maybe instead of a door on a full-size oven, go broke? only then what to do with everything that asks for in the bottom drawer?
Hairpin
And I am for similar facades. The shelves are 80% occupied by creative clutter. It will be visible behind the glass, but not behind the facades. The kitchen will immediately take on a neater look.
I try to keep only glass behind glass. No cans / bags and so on.

There is also a compromise option - just to attach barriers. In my kitchen (I posted the pictures above), the open shelf above the hood is closed with such a barder.

Glasses make the kitchen more fun, but ... you can't put it there ... Salt, sunflower oil and so on should be behind the facades.

In short, in this case I am against the glazing of open shelves.

P.S. And the microwave, in my opinion, is unsuccessful. Access and air exhaust are practically closed ...
Scarecrow
And if the glass is opaque? I have opaque and not particularly visible. Silhouettes only. I will find a photo of the kitchen - I will show you ...
And I lied all. ("I congratulate you lying!") I can see everything behind my windows ... Damn it ... She just drew attention herself. But there are coated glasses (frosted). I just have corrugated (well, bumpy ones).

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Dishwasher next to the refrigerator.
jinar
Hairpin I'm of course talking about frosted-frosted glasses, so that I can put the backlight behind them - I have a deep corner drawer, I don't have to put anything in front, and in the second top drawer all sorts of decorations only stand - you can safely part and change to glass - not a problem
the question is how to adequately close the bottom drawer in the absence of the same facades
that's why I consider the upper ones as support
aynat
It is strange that there are no such facades, 60cm cabinets with two drawers are now very common ...
Hairpin
Jinar!
And in my opinion, this lower open section is generally inappropriate. Microwave upstairs (I already wrote why), and instead of 60 cm - 45 cm with 3-4 shelves + bottle holder. Coordinately, but it will be convenient. IMHO.

Scarecrow!
Recently, I began to envy bottle-women. The only consolation is that it would not fit with me anyway ...
jinar
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Jinar!
And in my opinion, this lower open section is generally inappropriate. Microwave upstairs (I already wrote why), and instead of 60 cm - 45 cm with 3-4 shelves + bottle holder. Coordinately, but it will be convenient. IMHO.
Hairpin, of course inappropriate - that's why I want to close it!

there are no such facades, because this plastic is used only for wall panels, from which the apron behind the countertop is made (((

45cm with 3-4 shelves I have just to the right of this 60 - and the oven itself used to be placed in it, but now it is not there

So far I could not go to the forum, I drew 2 color options - which glass is better?
But in principle, I can seal these glasses with a translucent film with any picture - what else can I draw zebras or just a safari theme?
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yellow variant

white
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all the lower drawers to the refrigerator
Chantal
I like white glasses more, with yellow ones the zebra falls out completely. I don’t see the point of closing the lower cabinet with glass, it’s better to come up with some kind of "story" in the upper tier - maybe add something else glass for symmetry .. one more thing - if there is MKV at the bottom and there is a 60cm door, imagine how you will move around the kitchen at open door - after all, when the MKV is working, it will definitely have to be kept open (for ventilation). from this point of view, two doors 30 cm each are preferable, and even better is a lower draw-out drawer with a blank facade and an open shelf with MKV (can change over time to a built-in one)
jinar
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I like white glasses more, with yellow ones the zebra falls out completely. I don’t see the point of closing the lower cabinet with glass, it’s better to come up with some kind of "story" in the upper tier - maybe add something else glass for symmetry .. one more thing - if there is MKV at the bottom and there is a 60cm door, imagine how you will move around the kitchen at open door - after all, when the MKV is working, it will definitely have to be kept open (for ventilation). from this point of view, two doors 30 cm each are preferable, and even better is a lower draw-out drawer with a blank facade and an open shelf with MKV (can change over time to a built-in one)
Thank you! yes, I probably agree about white glasses - they support and develop white, and yellow ones simply "close" the horizontals, preventing the development of color transitions
I didn't even think about the obligatory opening of the large door, since I originally planned exactly as you wrote - the lower half is roll-out - for it even the mechanism is already installed, it remains to attach the facade
and the shelf with MV should have been without a "cover" for now - I think to build an oven there, but not a full-size one, since the built-in MVs are very small, but at least I want some kind of oven in the kitchen, but the prices for they really bite
Hairpin
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still in my opinion you really need a roll-out drawer under the oven not to use the space behind the plinth - an unforgivable luxury with such a footage, wait, I’ll find a link, I’ll show you how it looks
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you can buy here 🔗 less than a thousand

I didn’t ignore it, I didn’t notice. Well, that's when I already shoved her !!!

Chantal, do you mean that the space under the bedside tables (I have legs there now) is also used? (I can't believe it right away ...)
aynat
This is what my kitchen turned out to be, although the color is very distorted - in fact, the color is "Burgundy wine" and the hood is still in the project ...

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Hairpin
Burgundy - non-burgundy, and there is nothing in the photo! The color is very nice!

It's a pity the stove was already bought ... And the empty space on the stove is empty (syndrome of a resident of Khrushchev's kitchens - measure out unused centimeters).

And now I am tormented whether I need this metal stick on which I can hang everything ... Convenient, but ... the view is not very neat ...
aynat
Hairpin, here I will get my husband with a hood, and then it will be seen, maybe a locker will appear above it. Although there are enough cabinets from the top for me - I have 3 high cabinets (96cm), but from below I would not refuse one more bedside table ...
Chantal
Hairpin, I don’t have such a box yet, just when I was about to buy it, this company closed its representative office in Samara, and it’s not a “polka” to carry the calf from across the sea, so I don’t lose hope to find it here

in size - as far as I know, this box is only of one size - under the curbstone 60cm, and the height of the base (legs), in my opinion, is from 12cm, call the company, they will say thank you more precisely, I would say that I threw you an excuse to roll into warm regions chose the cheapest one, do you want to look closer

there are still such boxes in nature
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called Orga-Box, manufactured by Fennel, it is placed under the oven and uses the space of a shallow oven drawer + base, sometimes for a base 10cm and 15cm.
cons - you will have to change the entire curbstone, because it is not put in a regular curbstone, well, this box itself costs something about 4 thousand rubles for more details about it, you can see, for example, here 🔗

aynat, can you already congratulate on the completion of the repair? luxury kitchen color
Hairpin
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Although from the top of the cabinets I already have enough

Enough for now!

You will order something, look at the cornices. I really like the cornices! They cover up such a bunch of junk.
Luysia
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And now I am tormented whether I need this metal stick on which I can hang everything ... Convenient, but ... the view is not very neat ...

Hairpin, quite right, I thought so too, so I found a compromise:

I have this stick only in the corner, on it
- a shelf for detergents (they are already in sight),
- metal shiny stand for hot dishes;
- a set of potholders and that's it.

And all the small things in the boxes (I have 9 of them). Then I can post a photo of my kitchen, but I have it simple and was made for a long time.
Hairpin
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Then I can post a photo of my kitchen, but I have it simple and was made for a long time.

We need a mustache !!! So post your simple and old. And if you are striving, then from below attribute "This is me waiting for all your mistakes to appear, and then I will order a new one for myself. And without a bunch of your mistakes!"
elena1812
Dear Shpilechka! In my opinion, closing the microwave with a door, it is very inconvenient to use it later, my mother-in-law made this mistake, how not to use it carefully anyway you will put something on this door, and in the end the hinges will not stand, this is what happened with my mother-in-law, and each once peeking strongly into the microwave, it can be very inconvenient to put the microwave on the wall horns special for this under the upper drawers, and use that drawer differently, there is still enough to store in the kitchen. Good luck!
Blackhairedgirl
jinar
but it seems to me that it is better to put the microwave to the left of the hob and not fool your head
Chantal
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- a shelf for detergents (they are already in sight),
let me disagree for a fairy, I have such a thing on the sink
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or a budget option - a roll-out basket for detergents, which is attached to the wall inside the cabinet under the sink
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Then for a week or two, let him think that everything is over, and then you can start a bazaar about boxes!
I would not give him time to come to his senses, you need to buy a box, and at the last minute before he is going to shake off his hands and say "well, that's all, dear", slip this box with him with the words "well, screw this last trinket and let's go drink borzhom "
Hairpin
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In my opinion, closing the microwave with a door, it is very inconvenient to use it later

Probably, I expressed myself inaccurately. I believe that it is incorrect to clean all equipment that requires free access of air in the cabinet. You never know what ... That is, I am generally against the option with a microwave in the closet. Microwave upstairs, and then close.
Chantal
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jinar
but it seems to me that it is better to put the microwave to the left of the hob and not fool your head
Blackhairedgirl, if I am not mistaken to the left of the cooking room - this is the only working area that will be completely occupied by the MKV, where then to cook?
Blackhairedgirl
jinar
aynat
girls, I have a sore point - behind which of the lockers do you have a gas water heater? or don't you have it? I have this problem of problems - what would I think of and where to hide it ???
Chantal
cool idea with a fairy, but probably expensive?
about MV - she will take half the table, under the wall, and half will remain, well, plus the dining table.
Chantal
Blackhairedgirl, I bought the dispenser in LeroyMerlin, something about 400 rubles

we hid the column in the upper cabinet - height 90cm, width 45cm, a large "hole" was cut in the bottom and ceiling of the cabinet and the cabinet door with a lattice insert, in general, with ventilation, complete order
aynat
Blackhairedgirl , I don't have a gas water heater, but I had to make a pipe box in the corner. There is only a gas meter in my corner behind the curtain, but we installed this year and it is very small.

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aynat, can you already congratulate on the completion of the repair? luxury kitchen color

The renovation has long been ... paused. It all started with this color. First, I chose the facade, then the wallpaper, linoleum and for a long time could not decide on the countertop and wall panel. For such a facade, the gray color of the cabinets is usually assumed, but they did not fit the already purchased wallpaper.At the last moment, a consultant in the store suggested this option for the color of the cabinets - "white oak" and the "chalcedony" countertop. In the store, such cabinets on the showcase stood with "white oak" facades and looked, in my opinion, too monotonous. We took a chance and everything seemed to work out.
Luysia
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let me disagree for a fairy, I have such a thing on the sink
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Chantal, such a thing for detergent has already been shown by someone on the forum, to me it I liked it very much... But I already have a faucet from the filter and I just can't think of a place for another faucet.

The second version is original: well, a completely "dead" zone is used.

And the third option is partially present in me in the form of a plastic basket with wheels (well, there is something that I do not use every day).
Chantal
Luysia, I agree, finding a place in the kitchen for every little thing you need is a problem, so I chose a sink specifically with a wide rim as an option - I know that such dispensers with a long nose are mounted right into the countertop next to the sink and I saw nice wall options on the internet, such as this
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budget option - soap dish from the bathroom
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I think it would be better anyway than bottles of chemistry in a conspicuous place
Luysia
The first one is pretty, and the second one is just for the bathroom.
jinar
Hairpin closer such boxes, though also 60 cm (but I'm not sure) are in Ikea - it costs about 1000r
Blackhairedgirl I have a gas water heater in the bathroom, so the kitchen is free from this miracle of technology - I dream of waiting for the time when it will be replaced

the detergent dispenser is a thing! although, if you have a dishwasher, you don't often have to use it, and when the jar is not needed, you can put it down to the rest, on a roll-out shelf - it is very convenient !!!

I can rearrange the microwave on the second work surface to the left of the sink, but then I have to put the juicer, the combine and it is not clear where to shove the bread maker, which also hangs out with them upon arrival from the dacha

the problem is that if an item does not have instant access, I will very rarely use it, although if I feel like it ...
that's why the microwave has settled in the drawer below, and I definitely won't close it with a door - thanks for the wise thought about ventilation and doors to everyone and elena1812 in particular

Hairpin - Can you transfer photos of your kitchen here too?
Hairpin
Jinar, easily!
Tomorrow my daughter will come, I'll take a picture. This is the only option before installing the dishwasher. She's standing there naked ... she's ashamed ... When I dress her up in the facade, I will add new pictures.
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Chantal
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In the store, such cabinets on the showcase stood with "white oak" facades and looked, in my opinion, too monotonous. We took a chance and everything seemed to work out.
but I had a different concept - I chose the kitchen according to the principle that the buildings and facades were one whole, and it turned out that the furniture was light, but the walls were painted in a rich color
Blackhairedgirl
jinar
I also thought about the option to the left of the sink ... Well, here it is for you to decide what you most often need at hand ... I would put a microwave and (or) a bread maker there, as the most popular ones ... And the juicer will wait in the wings somewhere on the upper shelves (packed in foil, like Hairpins, or in its own store packaging).
Kalmykova
I'm probably feeling claustrophobic. How do people have so much free space in small kitchens? I have a kitchen of 17.5 m. Naturally, I do not have enough space. The bread machine is on the floor, the moldings (iron sticks) are all hung with shelves, etc., all the cabinets and shelves are full. All the time I "play tag" - I swap objects so that you can use it.
Hairpin
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Hairpin - Can you transfer photos of your kitchen here too?

I don’t know if my kitchen is still relevant, but ... I waited until it would be in perfect order, and today I realized that it NEVER was EVER.
My kitchen is Khrushchev's, so general plans do not work out. Only in parts:
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fugaska
oh, is this on the fridge - spices? gorgeous !!! and where are these bells and whistles sold?
Hairpin
Fugasca!!!
Did you miss the epic with these jars? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dopplet bought such jars in ... I forgot where. Tomorrow will come or Dopplet, or Anastasia, they will remind. And my husband did not take me there ... Traffic jams + parking problems.
So I ordered them over Nickerman. And since I thought they were small, I ordered as many as 50 pieces !!! In short, she gave away some of them, and left these ones. I ordered 2.5 euros for a set of 5 cans + stand. It was all in the Kitchenware.

I am in a frenzied delight !!! I have already begun to take back those that I gave away!
dopleta
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Fugasca!!!
Did you miss the epic with these jars? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dopplet bought such jars in ... I forgot where.

At Santa House Hairpin .

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strawberry
: flowers: Good evening to all FAIRIES! It is very interesting to read the reports and compare them with their "achievements". I have a question: tell me how to use the corner shelf in the kitchen more rationally (maybe not the topic, but you have to fly there too). It’s very deep and I’ve been flying there for 2 days and can’t cope with it. ??? I take it out, fold it again, but still there is no effect - the impression of a blockage. To get something you need to pull out half.
fugaska
well, put something you don't need in there, for example, a toaster, or an electric knife, I think there are a bunch of items in any kitchen that are least in demand

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