NatalyaN
I will wait
mersedes
Girls, do you have instructions for Unold 68511 in Russian?
How is the stove very noisy at work?
NatalyaN
No, there are no instructions in Russian, but in 30 minutes I figured out what was where and how to program it. Noisy? I don’t know what to compare with, so, if someone gave Panas to listen to, then probably already would have definitely decided on the noise. but I will say that you can hear how she kneads, but this is heaven and earth, in comparison with my Mule, although they listened to her and said that something was wrong with her (in Mula), that she should not make noise like that. One thing is annoying - it squeaks as many as 15 times when additional ingredients need to be added, and so disgusting - this is its minus.
mersedes
NatalyaN, thanks for the answer! I'm just choosing between Moulinex 5004 and ... I don't know myself - we can take this Unold 68511 ...
In principle, the squeak is short-lived, but the work lasts a long time ... But what about breakdowns? I read about Moulinex - buckets are making holes and other problems - have you seen reviews of Oolong breakdowns?
How to repair it then? (I understand that you bought it in Germany).
What do you think - will the baguette holder from Moulinex 5004 fit?
Is there a metal case? Is the outside getting hot?
Is the bucket scratched a lot?

Sorry for so many questions.
I want to say "thank you", I don't see where you have this option.
NatalyaN
I had a bucket full of holes in the Mule and the engine burned out, how this one would work - I don't know. They have the same buckets, from Muli it fits into Anold. The squeak is very loud, and 15 times is not a joke, it's hard to get used to it. The case, yes, metal, did not even notice whether it heats up or not, but it is made several orders of magnitude better than a mule. I haven't scratched the bucket yet. Well, and to repair, God forbid, you can probably also in some service, for a fee, of course. Details, they are in Africa, details, if only they were similar.
Celestine
Quote: mersedes

What about breakdowns? I read about Moulinex - buckets are making holes and other problems - have you seen reviews of Oolong breakdowns?
How to repair it then? (I understand that you bought it in Germany).

Is there a metal case? Is the outside getting hot?
Is the bucket scratched a lot?

Sorry for so many questions.
I want to say "thank you", I don't see where you have this option.

And who will answer you about breakdowns, if this stove is not presented on our market, it's only the Germans who are interested.

The case is metal, the bucket also hasn't been scratched in a year, there is only one program for programming, but I did not use it until everything suits me. About the squeak ... yes, very loudly, but once I stood with a neighbor on the staircase, and I needed to put butter at the end of the batch (I always do this) ... I heard and was not late ... this is me for any I try to look at the problem from the positive side, and disadvantages can be found in any good thing, exactly as well as advantages in a bad
If you choose m-do mules and this stove, I would not even doubt
NatalyaN
Natasha, by the way, which of yours is quieter?
And about my bread, in short, I had a thin crust a couple of times, but what it depended on, I still do not understand, because the last bread was with a thick one. In short, nothing is clear.
mersedes
Thanks for answers!
Does it take all the flour when kneading or do you need help?
The description says that the blades rotate both to the right and to the left, probably in order to knead all the flour?
mersedes
And they also asked me questions in a personal note, I think everyone will be interested to know:

Tell me what built-in programs in 68511 HP (I did not find the list anywhere, 9 programs are indicated everywhere and that's all)?
I'm interested in what programs are not in 68511 (9 built-in programs), but are there in unold 68415 (11 built-in programs)?
What language is the instruction for your HP in?

Is it possible in your stove to bake only one small form, and leave three empty?
What are your general impressions of HP 68511?
Celestine
Quote: NataliaN

Natasha, by the way, which of yours is quieter?
And about my bread, in short, I had a thin crust a couple of times, but what it depended on, I still do not understand, because the last bread was with a thick one. In short, nothing is clear.

Panas works louder, but not the stove itself, but the dough beats against the walls with force, there is noise from here, but this is not long, and you can’t hear it anymore ... and it beeps 12 times, also loud enough
mersedes
Girls, I bought this bread maker! Unold 68511
Somewhere in a week will be with me, we can still torment with questions.
NatalyaN
Congratulations on your purchase !!!
RybkA
Tell me, where do you order Unold? Because I have not found either Unold or Daewoo on the Ukrainian market
RybkA
So, let's continue the conversation ...
At the moment, I liked three options for HP with two small loaves or one large:
- Unold 68511. The option for ordering this model is not real for me (((
- Binatone BM 2169, very attractive price. It seems to be very real to find in Ukraine.
- Daewoo DI - 9154, good design, it seems, I even found it in Ukraine. But did Daewoo, once did HP?
All three options have the ability to program, but I would like to know if there are any nuances, such as the fact that you can not remove the boning in any way, as in the Kenwood 450?
Darik
For Daewoo (according to the instructions), the parameters can be changed within:

Kneading 1: 6-14 minutes
Ascent 1: 20-60 min
Mixing 2: 5-20 min
Ascent 2: 5-120 min
Ascent 3: 0-120 min
Baking: 0-80 minutes
Keeping bread warm: 0-60 minutes

One deboning - after the 2nd lift.
RybkA
Quote: Darik

For Daewoo (according to the instructions), the parameters can be changed within:

Kneading 1: 6-14 minutes
Ascent 1: 20-60 min
Mixing 2: 5-20 min
Ascent 2: 5-120 min
Ascent 3: 0-120 min
Baking: 0-80 minutes
Keeping bread warm: 0-60 minutes

One deboning - after the 2nd lift.
Thank you so much! But why, after the 2nd ascent, deboning, when after the first?
Nothing is specified between the second and third ascent. That is, it turns out 4 hours of continuous ascent!
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Now it would be nice to compare the possibility of programming in all three models ... Can anyone help?
Darik
After the 1st rise - at least 5 minutes - this is still a kneading.
Deboning - 5-7 paddle movements - valid after the 2nd lift. The instructions do not indicate this, so I attributed it below.
RybkA
Quote: Darik

Deboning - 5-7 paddle movements - valid after the 2nd lift. The instructions do not indicate this, so I attributed it below.
Yes? Got it. Thank you! This is really important and strange why is it not indicated in the instructions?
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Since in the last posts we are talking more about programming, then I will transfer the programming parameters of Daewoo DI - 9154 to the topic List of programmable bread makers, comparison and discussion https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&action=post;topic=6173.60;num_replies=62
NatalyaN
Rybka, we order Unold through a girl we know from Odessa. Now we are ordering another Unold, although this is a 68211 multicooker bread maker.
mersedes
Girls, I want to sell my Unold 68511. I did the same for you, only I ordered it myself. Since I used it for 2 months, I will give it a little cheaper. If anyone wants, write.
NatalyaN
mersedes, why are you selling something? the stove seems to be good, I really like the quality.

By the way, I wanted to write, but there was not all the time. About my thick crust in bread! I changed the stove, but I also began to master new recipes, and I did not realize that I began to add almost 2 or even all 2 tablespoons of sugar to 270-330 ml of water. In general, it returned to 1.5 - and the crust returned to me normal.
veranikalenanika
help me choose, - I can't figure it out,
need a bread maker with 3 forms, - choose from, -

- Daewoo DI-9154

- Binatone- 2169


veranikalenanika
before that I had an antediluvian bread maker Melissa with instructions in Swedish, - perfect, excellent, - even Borodinsky,
Now I want to buy a new and larger one - with three molds.
but I don’t know which of these two models to take.
Ross
Good day!

I am choosing a bread machine for myself and Unold 68511 just fits my criteria. I wrote to mersedes if it sells xn, but there is no answer yet. Can you share through whom you ordered this model and how much its final price was, can you order yourself through this person? Operation, are there any nuances? Is there a possibility of programming and deferred task?

Are there instructions in Russian, English, or only in German?

Thank you!
NatalyaN
Ross, nuances are everywhere. I, as well as in Moulinex, do not get out of the bread mixers well, I have to take them out with a hook (for example, in Delongy, they very rarely remain).
There are no instructions in Russian, respectively, and there will be no guarantee for it either, as you understand.
I ordered through a girl I know from Odessa.
shadow
veranikalenanika, hello!
I can't say anything about Daewoo,
I have Binatone with one bucket, and my mother has just two.
Works properly, is not overjoyed.
in a double bucket you can bake bread according to different recipes, the main thing. so that the program matches. You can, for example, white bread and bread with chili and tomatoes
veranikalenanika
hello shadow
thank you very much for responding,
I will probably take it all the same binaton there is little information on Daewoo - alarming.
Now I downloaded the instructions for both stoves, I am sitting here reading, - I decided to familiarize myself before buying.
shadow
veranikalenanika, of course, you need to study everything, because buying is not cheap, but worthwhile.

When I was choosing, I stopped at Binaton, since I have had a kettle at home of this company for 7 years. There are different reviews on the site, but I relied on my experience and I was right. I really like the stove, it bakes excellent bread.

Good luck with your choice!
olga71
Hello! I'm new to the forum, although the Moulinex 500 230 XXL stove is already a year old. I tried a lot according to recipes from the forum, something worked out, something didn't. I'm quite happy with the stove. The stirrers may not work well, but I adapted, first put it on the "kneading", pull in the stirrers, the dough rises and put on "baking". It's more comfortable for me. And the fact that the bucket maximum 1500 is good, it really helps out in the country when there are a lot of people ...
veranikalenanika
and yet I stopped at Daewoo DI-9154
Yesterday they brought it, now put it on the baking, the first impression is very and very positive,: nyam: simple management, a panel of tips in Russian, a colored coral with prescriptions, two viewing windows, a beautiful backdrop, in general. The husband chose the member to his liking, he liked the design and fundamentalness, well, the material of the product, after all, is not rusty, and not plastic. and the firm Daewoo inspires confidence, if they have such good cars, then the oven must be excellent, now I am a baker with my own oven.
Kassandra64
Hello!
I decided to buy a new bread maker and take the old one to the dacha. Now I am tormented by the problem of choice - help, please.
I really want the bread maker to have two buckets: for baking a loaf and for two small bricks. And even better - so that you can bake round bread, like an Easter cake. This is probably the main wish.
In addition, I want to have the "My recipe" mode ("Home cook", etc.) - well, in general, so that you can create your own program within certain limits or slightly change the standard ones.
Dispenser is desirable (but not required). And, of course, I would like all this to be not very expensive - and at the same time reliable: it did not leak, did not fray, did not need to constantly replace oil seals and rollers ..
Dear experts, as well as the owners of "just what you need": please advise which models to pay attention to. I visited several stores in our city - there are no models with replaceable buckets in any of them. And on the Yandex market there is no such option as "replaceable forms".
Or maybe I want the impossible? And interchangeable forms, in principle, are not combined in existing models with the possibility of programming? (And even with a dispenser?)
Ikra
And I have such a question for the owners of two-bucket x / n: are there basic bread recipes in the instructions separately for a large loaf, and separately - for small ones? In order not to count how much of what for which bread you need to take in grams. I just want to use my "ingenious" method of laziness: master a couple of basic recipes and change only additives in them
Miller
Unold 68511 EXTRA can now be bought in Russia

With Russian instruction and Russian guarantee!

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=169650.0
Exocat
Quote: Kassandra64

And, of course, I would like all this to be not very expensive - and at the same time reliable: it did not leak, did not fray, did not need to constantly replace the oil seals and rollers ..
...
Or maybe I want the impossible? And interchangeable forms, in principle, are not combined in existing models with the possibility of programming? (And even with a dispenser?)
It is difficult to find all the requirements in one stove ... but you can get closer to the ideal.
But you won't find "so that all this is not very expensive".

As the saying goes: Choose any two of the three options: multifunctional, reliable, cheap.
pushkar
Quote: Melnichka

Unold 68511 EXTRA can now be bought in Russia

With Russian instruction and Russian guarantee!

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=169650.0
Yes, just not for this money.

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