rastvorov
I carefully studied the content of this site before purchasing. However, the more I read messages on the form, the more I get lost ...
Was in the store today. I opted for the MOULINEX 5002, PANASONIK 255 and LG 155 models.
I CANNOT choose a stove because of the conflicting opinions of forum visitors.
I got the impression that Panasonic is better, and the crust is not baked in Moulinex.
Tell me what to choose from what I saw?
I just want to bake ordinary bread, to be able to delight my family with unusual bread with additives, muffins and jam.
Ksentia lopez
Well, everyone will praise their own. I have a Panasonic SD-254 without the "rye bread" option and without a dispenser, I like it. When I was choosing, I also looked at Delongy - she didn’t take it, because she didn’t get in the way of her allotted place in the kitchen. I also watched Moulinex 5002 - I didn't like the external build quality, but it's all IMHO, of course.
Owl
Quote: drastvorov

I carefully studied the content of this site before purchasing. However, the more I read messages on the form, the more I get lost ...
Was in the store today. I opted for the MOULINEX 5002, PANASONIK 255 and LG 155 models.
I CANNOT choose a stove because of the conflicting opinions of forum visitors.
I got the impression that Panasonic is better, and the crust is not baked in Moulinex.
Tell me what to choose from what I saw?
I just want to bake ordinary bread, to be able to delight my family with unusual bread with additives, muffins and jam.

Choose yourself and do not listen to anyone (you can only listen to sales consultants in stores, and then smart ones). Personally, I have Moulinex 5002, and everything is perfectly baked, and the jam is cooked, and the dough is kneaded, and there is a unique program called "Borodinsky bread". BUT, but I will never take the liberty of claiming that my bread maker is the best.

Several factors affect the success of baking bread, and not least of all how the head understands, and where the hands of the baker himself grew from.

P.S. Now, you can be bombarded with tips that guarantee the incredibly delicious result of just one model. Remember, if someone praises something very much, then he may be personally interested in it for various reasons (cooperation with various vendors, dealers and other pushers).


DECIDE YOUSELF!!! And good luck to you! I wish you to quickly start baking at least such bread as mine in the photo (see).

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And again, 1001 times about the flour of choice !!! For owners of ovens Moulinex 5004 and Panas 255
Hope
Oh for sure! Each one will praise his own. Decide for yourself.
If you have already read messages from our forum, then you know the advantages and disadvantages of these stoves. For example, I have a Panasonic 255, I am completely satisfied with it. She does not have programming like in DeLonghi, but standard programs are enough for me.
The choice is yours.
natalka
They all do almost the same thing, but in Moulinex and Panasonic the maximum bun is up to 1.5 kg, and in LG 155 only 680 gr. There is also a huge difference.
Owl
Quote: natalka

They all do almost the same thing, but in Moulinex and Panasonic the maximum bun is up to 1.5 kg, and in LG 155 only 680 gr. There is also a huge difference.

Uh-uh ... I apologize for the meticulousness, but Panasonic does not bake bread "up to 1.5 kg" - this can be seen from the recipes for the "XL" loaf, but Moulinex actually bakes such a loaf, which is also evident from the recipes (yes, I baked myself more than once).
natalka
I myself did not bake in Panasonic, but when I mentioned on the website that only Moulinex 5000 bakes a bun of 1.5 kg, they persistently proved to me that I was wrong and were quoted from the instructions for the P-255. Oh, I doubted ... Maybe it was about Delongy 125? But even if we take 1.25 kg as the maximum size, then this is also much more than 680 gr.
Elena Bo
Why do you need bread 1.5 kg or more? Are you going to eat it for a week? 1,250 is enough for both a large loaf and a decent portion of pies when kneading dough.
Uncle Sam
"... there is no perfection in the world!"
W. Shakespeare

Someone strenuously asks how to bake a loaf of less than 300 grams, and someone dreams of a stove that bakes a loaf of more than 1.5 kilograms.

When will HP with replaceable buckets be released (small small less)?
Elen341
Quote: drastvorov

Before purchasing, I carefully studied the content of this site. However, the more I read messages on the form, the more I get lost ...
Was in the store today. I opted for the MOULINEX 5002, PANASONIK 255 and LG 155 models.
I CANNOT choose a stove because of the conflicting opinions of forum visitors.
I got the impression that Panasonic is better, and the crust is not baked in Moulinex.
Tell me what to choose from what I saw?
I just want to bake ordinary bread, to be able to delight my family with unusual bread with additives, muffins and jam.

You must make the choice yourself !!!
My friend bought herself a Panasonic - 253. And she is very happy. Looking at her, I also wanted to buy myself the same model. I came to the store, but this model was temporarily not there. But I was already on fire to urgently buy a bread maker. I long and tediously chose from the assortment that they had. In the end, I opted for LG - 202 CE and was satisfied, more than a friend's stove. So it should only be your own choice! Happy shopping !!!
Celestine
Quote: Uncle Sam

"... there is no perfection in the world!"
W. Shakespeare

Someone strenuously asks how to bake a loaf of less than 300 grams, and someone dreams of a stove that bakes a loaf of more than 1.5 kilograms.

When will HP with replaceable buckets be released (small small less)?

You also forgot to mention round buckets with muffin tins ... And what else would you like to lay the food yourself and watch your bun?
natalka
The fact of the matter is that everyone needs to make their own choices based on their needs and desires. For someone, indeed, a small loaf is enough for two, and for a large family, an average of 750 grams is enough (sometimes I bake a second one if necessary), but when I put the dough on buns and bake them in the oven, I understand that more is possible. because they snatch it out from under the arms and complain that it is not enough.
If you see that the bread is running out, then you can put another portion and it will arrive in time for the next meal, but if the baking of the pies is in full swing, then there is no point in starting the second portion, since the dough program is designed for 1.3-2 hours. So what? wait all this time with the oven on, or start over after 2 hours? Complicated.
For my family of 7 people from the dough set at 1000g. it turns out 15 pies or buns. Two buns may be enough, but men (husband, dad and 17 year old son) are unhappy, they are not enough. The female half has to make concessions to them and eat one by themselves. Maybe, of course, we will not be hindered by restrictions, but why suffer so much if at the very beginning you can decide what you want. I, at one time, did not think about this question, so let at least a person take it into account.
Celestine
Quote: natalka

but if the baking of pies is in full swing, then it makes no sense to start the second portion, since the test program is designed for 1.3-2 hours. So what? wait all this time with the oven on, or start over after 2 hours? Complicated.

And if you try on the "pizza" mode, it is less than an hour, and then the dough will settle and rise, I always do this, I do not have time to wait for it for 2 hours
Rustic stove
Quote: Celestine

And if you try on the "pizza" mode, it is less than an hour, and then the dough will settle and rise, I always do this, I do not have time to wait for it for 2 hours

and I use the "pizza" mode when I try a new bread recipe and I don't have time to wait an hour to check the bun.
The gingerbread man is "bogged down" - you can turn off the oven while the dough is rising, and then bake in the "baking" mode.
Celestine
Quote: Rustic stove

but I use the "pizza" mode when trying a new recipe and I don't have time to wait an hour to check the bun.
The gingerbread man is "bogged down" - you can turn off the oven while the dough is rising, and then bake in the "baking" mode.

Likewise, I even bake bread like that sometimes. when I see that I don't have time, for example

Alen delonghi
Let's try to think logically.

Stove size.

In the "big" oven, you can bake both large and small loaves.
You cannot bake "big" bread in a "small" oven.

Stove color.

Any plastic from temperature and kitchen atmosphere will change color over time.
This is most noticeable on white plastic (it turns yellow). This is least noticeable on dark or colored plastic.

Number of programs.

It is limited to a certain number for everyone. The more programs, the wider the possibilities of the stove.
The programmable stoves have an unlimited number of programs at all.

Dispenser availability

It should be considered an advantage if you want to use it when baking bread with additives in fully automatic modes, that is: put the components in and forget about the oven - at a certain time (or a few hours later) get ready bread.

The presence of a viewing window.

To work out your recipes is a must. For baking according to standard recipes - no need.
Yana
Quote: Alen Delonghi


Stove color.

Any plastic from temperature and kitchen atmosphere will change color over time.
This is most noticeable on white plastic (it turns yellow). This is least noticeable on dark or colored plastic.
Agree. The lid of my bread machine turns yellow on the back. But it probably depends on the temperature to which the device is heated and on the quality of the plastic itself. For example, I have a drip coffee maker completely in a white case. She is over 5 years old, but looks like new, nothing has turned yellow and the plastic is shiny.
Tanik
I would also pay attention to what kind of programs are in the bread machine, and not just their number. For example, I have Moulinex 2000 and some programs are repeated in it, only in accelerated mode. Moreover, even the instructions say that accelerated bread is less tasty and fluffy. Therefore, it turns out that in fact not 12 different programs (as written in the description), but only 6 or seven.
Lola_Press
I would advise you to pay attention to the noise level of the unit. Here at first I would have a Kenwood 250, it worked loudly at night like a washing machine. And then I changed it to Panasonic, when they checked in the store, I thought it was not working, but it works SO silently. I'm super happy with my stove, I bake every 2 days, I would bake it more often, but I care about my figure.
Alen delonghi
I would pay attention to the programmable stoves ... They have an unlimited number of programs and recipes with 10 or 14 programs. There are as many programs as you want. And also their plastic does not turn yellow, they knead silently. But then they squeak loudly and triumphantly when the bread is ready!
natalka
What else is there to talk about? In my opinion, and I think that this is the opinion of the majority of members of the forum, the choice should be between Panasonic 255 and Delongy 125.
Elen341
Quote: Rustic stove

and I use the "pizza" mode when I try a new bread recipe and I don't have time to wait an hour to check the bun.
The gingerbread man is "bogged down" - you can turn off the oven while the dough is rising, and then bake in the "baking" mode.
A very interesting idea to try. Correctly say live and learn.
Elen341
but if the baking of pies is in full swing, then it makes no sense to start the second portion, since the test program is designed for 1.3-2 hours. So what? wait all this time with the oven on, or start over after 2 hours? Complicated.

I have a stove, making the dough in 1 hour and 03 minutes.
And a friend has a Panasonic 253, she does this in pizza mode. As soon as one portion of the dough is ready, we add another. While we are making pies from the first dough, we have the second ready and will have time to stand still.
Uncle Sam
The Panasonic 255 does a great job with double the norm when making pizza dough (patties). Tested personally.
natalka
Quote: Elen341

she makes on pizza mode. As soon as one portion of the dough is ready, we add another. While we are making pies from the first dough, we have the second ready and will have time to stand still.
It's interesting, but what about the first ascent. I didn't do that, but I'll try it somehow.
Quote: Uncle Sam

The Panasonic 255 does a great job with double the norm when making pizza dough (patties). Tested personally.
This is how I tried to do it, but it seems that the stove is tormented during kneading and I get out of the situation like this: I put two norms of liquids, sugar salt and yeast, and flour 1.5. I mix the rest on the table to the desired consistency. There is not so much left, 5-10 swindles.
Uncle Sam
Quote: natalka

This is how I tried to do it, but it seems that the stove suffers during kneading
Panas has a special engine for tough rye dough. Him kneading the 2nd portion for pizza - seeds.
natalka
Moulinex also has unleavened dough and the engine can handle it easily, but it's not about the severity. The impression is that the knife is not wide enough to interfere with such a number.
Elen341
Quote: natalka

It's interesting, but what about the first ascent. I didn't do that, but I'll try it somehow.
My friend and I did not notice any difference in test quality.
Try it, and there you might like it ...
Elen341
Quote: natalka

Thank you Elen341 for the advice. I will try.
When you try, write your opinion.
Bunny
I've been reading your forum for 4 days now, and I just can't figure it out ... In terms of functions, Moulinex seems to be better, but does the notorious white crust scare you, or is it just not fried in old models?

Well, I consider Panasonic as an alternative ... I would like convincing reviews ...
and in general, what are the statistics? What are all the same more reliable stoves?
Rustic stove
Quote: Bunny

I've been reading your forum for 4 days now, and I just can't figure it out ... In terms of functions, Moulinex seems to be better, but does the notorious white crust scare you, or is it just not fried in old models?

Well, I consider Panasonic as an alternative ... I would like convincing reviews ...
and in general, what are the statistics? What are all the same more reliable stoves?

Bunny,
all that the owners of mulineshek and Panasonic could say about comparing their stoves has already been said as you correctly noticed about a thousand times. Do you think that now someone will express some kind of secret knowledge)?
Here are the topics where both brands appear even in the name, read these topics:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=2193.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=2189.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=2205.0

No one except you will choose a stove for you. Good luck !!!
Elena Bo
I vote for Panasonic. I consider it the most successful (in terms of the quality of workmanship and baking). Maybe she looks not as beautiful as Moulinex, but she doesn't need it
Bunny
in Moulinex I am greatly attracted by baguettes ...
Bunny
Guys, I beg you to at least vote !!!
Leska
Quote: Bunny

I've been reading your forum for 4 days, and I just can't figure it out ...

And you in the store take a closer look at them. Choosing a stove (not knowing about this forum) for almost a month, twisting them in my hands immediately brushed aside LG, Hitachi and Delonghi. I liked Moulinex (other models), but I liked Panasonic! And the statistics can be found in the warranty workshop.
Bunny
she brushed aside Delongy ... I haven't seen anyone else yet ...
Uncle Sam
Quote: Bunny

in Moulinex I am greatly attracted by baguettes ...
Nobody has yet seen mulinexes with a mold for baguettes alive in Russia ...
Ulitka
My daughter has Mulinex -5002. This model has 2 hooks for kneading dough and bread all the time, in different modes, it turns out just great! The maximum size of a loaf is 1.5 kg - it practically does not, because even 1 kg fits under the lid itself.
Her friends are in the mood to buy this model of bread maker
Bunny, she also lives in Kiev
Alen delonghi
Quote: Bunny

she brushed aside Delongy ... I haven't seen anyone else yet ...

If it was Delongy 125, then it was very, very vain. it the only one from all existing on our market a fully programmable oven. The difference between her and others? As between an activator-type washing machine (with such a propeller inside) and an automatic washing machine. Yes, maybe not everyone will like the metallic color. But the oven should not only please the eye - it should knead any dough and bake any baked goods.What she does with me every day, without any failures and problems. Moreover, its broadest capabilities allowed me to deeply delve into the process of baking, which was interesting to me from a cognitive point of view. Now I even find it difficult to think of what she cannot do ... In short - absolutely honestly I recommend - super!
Rustic stove
Quote: Alen Delonghi

The difference between her and others? As between an activator-type washing machine (with such a propeller inside) and an automatic washing machine.

The comparison is completely incorrect. All of our bread makers are AUTOMATIC.
In this context, an activator machine can be compared with a mixer, but not with an automatic bakery.
Yana
Quote: Uncle Sam

Nobody has yet seen mulinexes with a mold for baguettes alive in Russia ...

We are still alive - no, but in online stores "Moulinex" - 5004 has already appeared. The price is 5000-6000 rubles.
Tashenka
"Every sandpiper ..."
I can't say anything about Mulinex. But about LG and Panasonic-255 only POSITIVE !!!
The first one I had was "Skier" did EVERYTHING and MUCH: any bread (and this is in view of the fact that there is no "rye bread" program), and any "cool" dough, and jam. So this love would have lasted, if not ... In general, I have already told.
With Panasonic they rubbed themselves against each other for a long time. And even now there are still "clashes". But the result is rarely upsetting.
Programming ... Maybe someone needs it. But I have no time to get hung up on this. I'd better experiment with additives.
DON'T BE ABUSE, OWNERS OF DELongy's wonderful stove! I'm just talking about what I used myself.
Deni
Quote: Elena Bo

I vote for Panasonic. I consider it the most successful (in terms of the quality of workmanship and baking). Maybe she looks not as beautiful as Moulinex, but she doesn't need it
And my stove 253 is the most beautiful and the most beautiful! I am delighted with my stove! The most important thing is to decide to buy YOUR bread maker and love it, love, love !!!!
And if it's more serious, then I hesitated between Hitachi and Panasonic, and since Panas was in the store closest to my house, then my choice was simplified
Rustic stove
Quote: Bunny

Guys, I beg you to at least vote !!!

I'm stunned, dear edition)
Bunny, everyone will vote for their own stove, and who has what - look in the left column on the main page, there was already such a vote.
How this personally will help YOU make a choice, I do not really understand.
Bunny
Well, what is there to be stunned ... I will regard the vote as fortune-telling ...
consider that I'm guessing ...

Well, it's hard for me to choose, something must be decisive ...
taty
Alen delonghi
If it was Delongy 125, then it was very, very vain. it the only one from all existing on our market a fully programmable oven.
Alain, please tell me which bucket is in this stove
I saw a rather thick LG light, I don’t know aluminum or something
and CLATRONIC-mabut tin is quite thin judging by the photo from Panasonic-similar to LV
and what is de longue's
Owl
Quote: Bunny

Well, what is there to be stunned ... I will regard the vote as fortune-telling ...
consider that I'm guessing ...

They're guessing, Bunny, not so ... You need to throw the shoe out of the gate or there are some other manipulations with the mirror ...
taty
I used LG 205 CJ for three weeks ...
With the help of the instructions of the site visitors and another, all 18 loaves were edible and almost all were successful, but the smell of plastic haunted all the time of work, they took it to the service, they said that the last couple of months this is a problem, I don’t know, or the body is not native or the paint is unsuccessful, but such a fact
And there are no complaints about kneading dough and baking
maybe it just didn't match the wrong address the device got
Celestine
Quote: taty

I saw in LG-light rather thick I don't know aluminum or something
and CLATRONIC-mabut tin is quite thin judging by the photo from Panasonic-similar to LV
and what is de longue's

And you do not judge by the photo, it is better to look in the store if you see, than to introduce people to Oman without even seeing the object
taty
I am now without a stove in the store, kindly agreed to change the ski for something else, but they need to order the desired model
And I'm actually thinking about Panasonic or Delongues, and they say they don't promise to order several models

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