Cooking utensils (pots, pans, lids) (2)

Zepter-I don't argue. But I have an expensive set of these dishes bought in the Zepter brand salon. Pots, yes, I'm happy. And I shoved the pan away. After a couple of months of use. everything began to stick to her mercilessly. I just had no luck, or some other factors, I did not bother. I just bought new Seaton pans and now I'm happy.

About what is burning in the pan. here are 2 reasons. First, you did not re-preserve the dishes (the consultant should have told you how this is done). the second is the wrong temperature. There is no other reason. if you have re-preserved the dishes, then you are either underheating or overheating ...

Despite the fact that I have 2 multicooker - one expensive bork u 700, I cook cutlets and frying only in Zepter.

girls, well, do you really think that at 42 I don’t know how to do it and what it is. I just told you what and how. Who likes what more.

An alloy of precious metals such as chromium, nickel, molybdenum. gold, titanium. ...

I would like to hope that this is not only advertising. Although personally I am skeptical about this - in order to sell, they will write something else

girls, someone heard something about VINCENT VC-4437-28 frying pans, for example, this model. knowledgeable say good or not

I would like to hope that this is not only advertising. Although personally I am skeptical about this - in order to sell, they will write something else

exactly. I didn’t need this set, but once I got to the store, I fell for this bait. Fair? Only with saucepans delighted. And the pans, after a while, everything, zilch. There are also more expensive quality dishes. Only, unfortunately, a lot of fakes are supplied to our market. And what is sold in dish salons is not a guarantee not to run into a low-quality product and honest sellers. Unfortunately

[mr.Catlery]

The best cookware is Zepter. Thermo-accumulating bottom. An alloy of precious metals such as chromium, nickel, molybdenum. gold, titanium. ... Auger Zepter.

About this nonsense has already been on the forum, please do not repeat mr.Catlery He told everything in detail, even showed curious people in search, it is useless to prove to non-believers.

I was at the company's factories in Milan and saw how Zepter cookware is made. There are no fakes and cannot be.

There is another firm House Muller, they drive it under Zepter and put the logo. But here you need to be careful when buying by the buyers themselves.

As a rule, those snort. someone either feels sorry for money or do not know how to cook in this dish. It is foolish to store these dishes on the shelf if you can get the benefits and benefits of energy saving and health.

my dears, if such conversations have already started, such as looking into someone else's wallet, and statements about someone who knows how, then it makes no sense to discuss anything here for me anymore. Without seeing the interlocutor and not knowing who he is and what, a professional chef or a simple housewife, how can you judge who is sorry for what and who knows what? You can judge about dishes not by their beautiful name, and not by the promotion of their brand, but how they will behave in the process of daily use. And what is it made of. :)That's all.

[mr.Catlery]

It is useless to prove exactly and it makes no sense. And the deaf always do not hear and do not want to hear .. I was at the company's factories in Milan, I saw how Zepter cookware is made. There are no fakes and cannot be ..

I will allow myself to quote the respected mr.Catlery
mr. Catlery stated:
July 4, 2010 at 00:52 and later in the text
Zepter cookware or how we are nailed

.... are you serious about ionic levels, titanium and molybdenum? And do you think this is reliable information? Type in any search engine chem. composition of steel 304 and read. This is not some kind of classified information. And anyone can look at the chemistry for himself. the composition of the steel your beloved Zepter is made of .......

Remember for the rest of your life SILVER AND PLATINUM ARE HARMFUL FOR ANY STEEL, including corrosion-resistant. I do not advise you to spread this nonsense - you may be accused of fraud, because you are trying to pass off ordinary standard steel as almost semi-precious. I carried out spectral chemical analysis in a serious factory laboratory and can declare with full responsibility that in the steel of the Zepter dishes THERE IS NO SMALLEST TRAILS of metals such as platinum and silver, at any level. And impurities in the amount of 0.04%, which do not affect anything at the level of error of the measuring equipment. And so that you know for the future, the austenitic, i.e., non-magnetic structure of steel is formed by nickel, which is contained in this steel. I am in no way trying to belittle the dignity of the Zepter dishes, I generally do NOT ABOUT TABLEWARE, but about what nonsense you are spreading by sellers and presenters, without having the slightest idea about what you say and write. And there is no need to roll the barrels here and go over to the individual. In addition to your seminars, you just need to go to a normal library and, as a person far from technology, read some textbooks, in particular materials science (this is a general educational technical subject at a university). And it will immediately become clear to you what nonsense you are spreading here. As a person with a higher technical education and many years of experience in manufacturing, reading your dilettante reasoning and outright inventions is also not a pleasure for me. I'm not your horse client who can be hung up on his ears and persuaded to buy a saucepan for 250 euros. And I clearly know the legal side of the issue. What you, as a seller, in accordance with the standard, should convey to the buyer. Yes, I affirm that it is you who distribute false information about the Zepter cookware on the Internet. And what she really is, I described above. Cookware Zepter complies with our standard GOST 27002-86 and European EN, as well as dishes of other brands WMF, Fissler, and I have no questions for it, because I know (not from your words) what it is. By the way, here is a photo of a sawn Zepter bucket that you were so eager to see.

you can get the benefits and benefits of energy savings

I never get involved in disputes about the Zepter, but I can't stand it anymore - this is the funniest argument I've heard - at such an unjustified cost for this dish, talking about saving electricity by half a penny

I never get involved in disputes about the Zepter, but I can't stand it anymore - this is the funniest argument I've heard - at such an unjustified cost for this dish, talking about saving electricity by half a penny

And I like the zepter of pots, I cook only in them, but in multicooker
I have no other pots at home. I like that you can cook on low heat, the bottom keeps the temperature well!
I cook everything from stewed fruit, borscht, to jam - and I am completely satisfied with the zepter

I bought it a hundred years ago, and I got used to the zepter, I learned how to cook, especially soups, borscht without water - the taste is great. And today I don't care what the bottom and walls are, what matters is what cooks well!

I generally keep quiet about the cost - to each his own! I could and bought
Each of us is sometimes like that g ... Sorry, he buys junk and then throws it away as unnecessary and, moreover, does not count money ... so many devices are lying around at home or donated ... that would be enough for gold dishes!
And I use pots almost every day, I have no others

Tanya, it's so good that there was an opportunity to buy these kaktryulki, they just said here that if there are no pots, then talking to all of you here, they say, you are not cool ...

Everyone judges by himself, as I understand it, and by his means and capabilities ...

I don't know about the magical properties of Zepter dishes, but I was presented with a very beautiful and functional set of Hoffmayer dishes, bought on the street from visitors from Romania. Not quite cheap, but it is clear that this is a Chinese fake. Now, after several years of using it, I can write that I am more than satisfied with its quality. Also, like branded pots, it keeps heat very well - you can bring the cereal to a boil and it will cook by itself. Hot water in it can stand for several hours, practically not cooling. The surfaces are not stained. I am not happy only with the frying pan - you cannot fry on it without oil.

And also, I recently bought a wok, but not enameled, which I wrote about here in the subject, but cast iron (without a non-stick coating, but with an anti-corrosion one) processed it as expected (hardened with oil in the oven). How delicious dishes are obtained in it - the taste of the dishes improves several times. True, I read that the first 6-7 times there you need to cook fatty dishes, so I cooked in it only pilaf and Moldavian galushte (small stuffed cabbage rolls) so far, I have not yet reached roast and other things. How does the taste of food depend on the dishes, it turns out

For those who have forgotten, choleretic drugs are sold in pharmacies. You can talk a lot and for a long time, you need to use and compare. And then draw the appropriate conclusions. The main thing is not to use Teflon. even domestic birds die from its vapors ... And the enamel breaks off and rust gets into food. Well, you like to constantly throw money into some kind of crap. wait until it fails, then buy again and again ... please. you need to feed the producers ..

And you'd better go to a psychologist. Otherwise, there are clear signs of the grave consequences of the effects of neurolinguistic programming. About Teflon, you can immediately see that you looked at a zomboyaschika with Lena Malysheva, who tells everyone what good dishes she sells together with the importer of Chinese pans Green Pan. And as for the "feeding" of the producers, this is all about your Zepter sect with MLM and direct sale sales, where the denyushkas of lohonuvshih consumers, "one with a bipod", successfully divide "seven with a spoon" among themselves. , this one of yours, according to the "new technology URA" released! I had the opportunity to test it from the bottom of my heart, and then also work out the search for "dredges." metals "in the chemical composition of the steel from which the frying pan was made. I can say that this is an absolutely" commodity-fabulous "technology. The one who invented it was very bad at school

The surfaces are not stained. I am not happy only with the frying pan - you cannot fry on it without oil.

And also, I recently bought a wok, but not enameled, which I wrote about here in the subject, but cast iron (without a non-stick coating, but with an anti-corrosion one) processed it as expected (hardened with oil in the oven). How delicious dishes are obtained in it - the taste of the dishes improves several times. True, I read that the first 6-7 times there you need to cook fatty dishes, so I cooked in it only pilaf and Moldavian galushte (small stuffed cabbage rolls) so far, I have not yet reached roast and other things. How does the taste of food depend on the dishes, it turns out

With stainless steel with a frying pan, the problem is understandable - it just has a too smooth bottom. If the bottom is sandblasted (this operation is used to clean cast aluminum wheel rims), then the situation will become much better. And if the surface is modified, then such a frying pan will be "in the teeth" and scrambled eggs and pancakes. Zepter pans, by the way, are completely useless on these dishes.
In fact, the utensils should not affect the taste of the food in any way - this is a fundamental requirement of food hygiene. What you did with the wok allowed to build up not only anti-corrosion protection on the cast iron surface, but also to create a kind of anti-stick coating from coked animal fats and vegetable oils. Therefore, frying will also work out without problems, potatoes will turn out especially well. Although in Chinese cuisine a wok performs a slightly different function than a cauldron for pilaf in Asian cuisine.

In fact, utensils should not affect the taste of food in any way - this is a fundamental requirement of food hygiene.

This is understandable, but in my case the cooking method has changed - not boiling or stewing, but slow simmering, as in the oven. That is why the taste is different.

I won't bother with the frying pan, because I adapted it for something. And for frying I got a huge frying pan, very old (they gave it to me), made of some kind of alloy. You can cook everything on it and nothing will burn. Maybe it's aluminum with something, but it is not very light, well, and not as heavy as cast iron. Does not rust, large diameter and high sides. Whether in the oven or wherever, you can bake pies in it. After its appearance with me this winter, I realized that this is my most valuable acquisition for the kitchen - I would not trade it for anything

I've already written about Zepter cookware before, but for some reason people don't want to bother reading the whole topic first. After all, you need to know what to write about. But some people think that everyone here is so dense and "have never heard of Zepter dishes", but they opened our eyes.
So that's it. I have been using the zepter for over 10 years. I bought it at the turn of the century, when there was no alternative to it, so I didn’t get very dirty about the price. I am very happy with the dishes (there are more pans). But with regard to the "gold-silver" in the alloy of the material of the dishes, my husband (a metallurgist by profession) quickly put my brains in my head, explaining what would have happened to this dish \ steel if they were there. So all these are "fairy tales of the Vienna woods". I didn't buy other dishes for myself (Why? If it's better not, but change the awl for soap ...). Although the design is already outdated ... But people do not go to my kitchen on a tour, so this one suits me too, because the dishes cook well. And I have never done and will not claim that my dishes are the best! TASTES COULD NOT BE DISCUSSED! And it is true. Maybe someone just likes to buy a new pot / pan every six months. On the contrary, I am satisfied with the "lifetime" guarantee. Although who checked it? Maybe in 10 years this company will no longer exist. And our guarantee cried. But I probably won't buy a Zepter for my children if I find an analogue, but at a price several times cheaper. Why pay more for the same product? And recently I have wanted to buy a frying pan, which will soon be produced by Smargon. I'm waiting ... If you like it, I'll buy some saucepans. But when will they be in Ukraine? ..

I recently bought a teflon-coated Vok cauldron. And the size, and depth, and handles completely suited me. Only it was painfully light, but I turned my eyes under my forehead - I want it and that's it! In short, after 2-4 cookings, the Teflon at the bottom began to snap off, like it looks like a knife on the bottom of the grunt. I was terribly upset. sobs. I understand that this Wok is either potted or a very thin layer of Teflon. And if so, what can you cook in such a cauldron?

That’s how you don’t need to feed Zepter producers. Once I bought some dishes and forgot. And finally, read about Teflon information on the Internet. In America, this dish has already been officially banned. ...

Oh, just don't have to compose anything !!! We have users from Canada and the USA on the forum, some of them use HP
Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20 and Zojirushi Virtuoso BB-PAC20 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=178552.0 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=159825.0 These CPs are produced in Japan with Teflon-coated buckets and supplied to the American markets.
So if there are facts, I ask the "Studio" if not, stop trolling !!!

what can you cook in such a cauldron?

Of course, throw it out without regret, because.it is very dangerous to health. I think that you will not feel so sorry for him - when I was looking for a wok, I noticed that Teflon is quite cheap.

I quote again the words of a specialist in metals and alloys
Steel 18-10 and its relatives are used in tableware for only one reason. except for "stainless steel" due to very high plasticity, allowing deep drawing sometimes in one pass, without heat treatment.
if someone continues to be in the holy confidence that it is harmless, then I recommend doing the simplest experiment.
Pour water into a pan of austenitic stainless steel, add food citric acid, boil for an hour.
then pour the "cocktail" into a glass and you will see that it is greenish.
Bon appetit gentlemen. you can drink this cocktail of nickel salts to your health
let's not produce illiteracy on the forum

End of quote.
PS: everyone understood everything a long time ago, cast iron and teflon cocoa, only the zepter is good

Not true, I read everything and looked. I just don't want to say the same thing a hundred times. Teflon is death, aluminum also breeds downs. cast iron wraps their stomachs ... Everyone has understood everything already, but if you don't understand, ask for the address and talk to you ..

Okay, okay, why is the Zepter better than other high-quality stainless steel dishes, tell us?

In America, this dish has already been officially banned. And Russia, like a big garbage dump, is on you, God, that doesn't suit me. And check your pans for weight as well. Teflon is a coating that is applied to either aluminum (which contributes to the development of diseases like Alzheimer's) or cast iron (in which case it is better than aluminum, but also not safe). And Teflon is applied to the base, probably with the help of some kind of adhesive, well, let's say, unsafe glue ... Lightweight pans are based on aluminum, and heavy cast iron. Cast iron tends to be pricked and scratched. Take a magnifying glass and examine the bottom of your pans. waste in the form of fat accumulates in these cracks and chips, the cat cannot be washed, respectively, having already 100 times having time to go rancid, it gets into your stomach. And then, for some reason, our vessels are clogged, or blood clots break off. Blockage of blood vessels in the brain leads to strokes, and blocked blood vessels in the heart lead to heart attacks. Unfortunately, we cannot change the ecology on the street, low-quality products, the cat is brought to stores, but we can change the ecology of our home, using water and air purification systems, and we can also change our diet, cooking correctly and in high-quality safe dishes.
P.S. It is not a fact that an expensive purchase (not only dishes) will be of high quality and good, but everything that is of good quality simply does not have the right to be cheap and never will !!! Just like a good perfume cannot cost 3 rubles, as in Lituali .. Although there are already horse prices, and the quality leaves much to be desired.

They will hear the ringing and do not know where it is from. already sorted out about this Yakutia. Heard the word Zepter and caused panic, but no one even paid attention to the fact that before this word there are still 2 words of House Muller. Do not confuse one with the other. House Muller zepter is a blatant fake for which there was a trial. And even there was a letter to the Zepter company signed by the chief sanitary doctor Gennady Onishchenko about the dangers of counterfeit dishes. I personally read it myself. because at that time she was an employee of the company. And zepter cannot be compared with anything, there are no analogues and cannot be .. By the way, the company is Swiss, factories for the manufacture of dishes are in Melana.

Hmmm, on the face of a complete "blockage of the vessels of the brain" precisely as a result of their washing at a chain seminar. What America. what was banned? Th you were there. did they enter their stores? Go to the American e-bay and see how "forbidden" dishes are sold there. About Alzheimer's disease, it's generally stale "cranberries".About the "sticky substance" with which Teflon "glues" it to you at the seminar, or did you come up with it yourself? You say you were "employees of the company", This is what the adherents told you, but in fact you were a Negro who, like a honey bee, carried money to the bosses. the price, nor the quality of the dishes. Gena Onishchenko does not need to be touched, this is the most effective and powerful weapon of trade wars, which the Russian authorities have recently been using on everything, starting with Belarusian sugar and milk and ending with Georgian Borjomi.

[Again:we end the discussion on zepter dishes!]

Again:
we end the discussion on zepter dishes!

So that's it. I have been using the zepter for over 10 years. I bought it at the turn of the century, when there was no alternative to it, so I didn’t get very dirty about the price. I am very happy with the dishes (there are more pans).
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Maybe someone just likes to buy a new pot / pan every six months. On the contrary, I am satisfied with the "lifetime" guarantee.

SWIFTA, can you take a picture of your pans now? Wondering how they look after 10 years of use? I mean scratches inside and out. Change in steel color, if any.
I can show mine for comparison - I have three sets of pots, all are inexpensive, but I like them. The most "senior" set is 17 years old. The other two are 10-plus. Of course, there are injuries from "cruel" treatment. They both suffered from the brutal mixer, and from all kinds of shovels and iron sponges, and burned in them ... "Baptism of fire" my saucepans went through in full - both with me and with my boys, with tenants ... the very first set was used about five more years on the stove with cast-iron pancakes ... Now it's terribly interesting for me to compare their appearance with a ten-year-old Tseptor.

Can I? (Smiley pulling out hand)
My mother-in-law gave me a set of pots and pans 15 years ago. Since then, they have been in constant use in the most difficult jobs. I don’t know how much they cost, but my mother-in-law would never buy something expensive.
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and where to buy these? I would buy myself. Only I can’t make out the name so that I can score and Google it. Girls, help me out, such a miracle if you could buy it in Kiev. ...

Here are my saucepans!

From the very first and cheapest set bought in 1996 on the market for anything between $ 50-60. That is, 12 items - 4 pots, a ladle, a frying pan and, accordingly, 6 glass lids .. Called HAPPY LADY. Sellers said that the production of Poland, I tend to believe. The pans are heavy, they have not lost their shape. A couple of years after my purchase, I saw the same set on the market, the design and boxes were the same, but the pans were already completely different - lightweight. For 17 years, some plastic parts have suffered - the handle at the ladle has fallen apart, and on two covers. The rest is all in a very decent form. IMHO


The next set is Italian. Purchased in 2002. Four pans - Elegance2000. Whoever did not find the manufacturer, only the importer is written on the box (yes, one box has survived). I don't remember exactly the price, somewhere from 100 to 150 USD. e. for the entire set. Normal heavy pots, handles do not heat up, and the pimp on the lid is hot. Some whitish dots appeared on the bottom inside one pan.


And the last favorite. Also four pans, also from 2002. Written by Germany, but I'm not sure. The price is about $ 100. e. for everything. Not polished, but matte. The handles do not heat up, under them and in them nothing flows into the PMM. I love them and will not trade them for anything ... yet.


If you polish my saucepans, they will be like new.

Here are my saucepans!

From the very first and cheapest set bought in 1996 on the market for anything between $ 50-60. That is, 12 items - 4 pots, a ladle, a frying pan and, accordingly, 6 glass lids .. Called HAPPY LADY. Sellers said that the production of Poland, I tend to believe. The pans are heavy, they have not lost their shape.A couple of years after my purchase, I saw the same set on the market, the design and boxes were the same, but the pans were already completely different - lightweight. For 17 years, some plastic parts have suffered - the handle at the ladle has fallen apart, and on two covers. The rest is all in a very decent form. IMHO

I have exactly the same set, the same age and everything else is the same as Galina's.
After him, I already bought two other sets, but I love this one and so far I do not plan to part ...

Here are my saucepans!

From the very first and cheapest set bought in 1996 on the market for anything between $ 50-60. e. 1

There was a saucepan from this set, retired due to non-magnetic
I still use Elegance, in the same form
All the presented dishes are made in China and have a "lifetime" guarantee. Because of its non-killability, what will it be? Does not "burn, does not rust" and most importantly it costs "a penny"

Here are my saucepans!

And I have the same set, and the age of the pots is the same. We sell separately spare plastic handles and pimp lids, they cost a penny, and so you can extend the pleasure of using such dishes!

[Rina]

Again:
we end the discussion on zepter dishes!

Dear Rina! It's not that simple. This discussion is not opened in order to swear and, moreover, to show off. We are read by many and often by those who have never heard of the Zepter. And all these discussions are open to declare for those who do not already know:
- zepter dishes are high quality dishes;
- the price of these dishes is too high compared to the dishes of the same high quality from other manufacturers;
- representatives of the LGUT zepter, declaring uniqueness their dishes; about an unlimited (from their website) warranty for dishes.
So we warn people not to be led to Zepter's tales of "uniqueness".
Below is a reference material on the above.

"... Warranty
We are an authorized representative of Zepter International and sell only original products that undergo a multi-stage quality control.

All Zepter products are backed by a worldwide guarantee.
Zepter guarantees that in for 30 years from the date of purchase of stainless steel products from an authorized dealer of the company, these products will not show defects in material and / or workmanship.
In addition, ZEPTER guarantees that:
stainless steel, silver-plated and gold-plated products, dishwasher safe (except for knife blades).
stainless steel products, as well as silver-plated and gold-plated products, are guaranteed for 10 years from the date of purchase ...
10:00 Smolina Ekaterina: Hello! How can I help you?
10:02 Visitor: Hello, Katya! If possible, then more about the "lifetime warranty". How old is it? For all stainless steel dishes or handles and a thermal sensor do not count?
10:03 Ekaterina Smolina: Zepter provides its customers with a lifetime (minimum 30 years) warranty to repair or replace Zepter stainless steel products in the event of a defect in material or workmanship. The thermostat is guaranteed for 12 months.
10:09 Visitor: Thank you! And if the handle falls off after 5 years, will they change the whole pot or just the handle?
10:10 Ekaterina Smolina: On this issue, you will contact the service department of the ZEPTER representative in your city ... "

Like this. People have already contacted - only the pen will be replaced with a scandal. Infa 2 years ago, maybe not right now

"... EXCELLENT ZEPTER METAL 316 L ..."

"... Brand: AISI 316L (analogue 03Х16Н15М3) Class: Corrosion-resistant steel ordinary"

And I have the same set, and the age of the pots is the same. We sell separately spare plastic handles and pimples for lids, they cost a penny, and so you can prolong the pleasure of using such dishes!

I have never seen such spare pens. At Fixprice's store I bought other pens.Of course, you can use them, but I didn't like them. The height of the pimp is very small - the fingers touch the hot lid, and the bolt there rusts. The Chinese saved a lot on these pens.

Well, if the moderators do not mind, then I will start a short story about my dishes. I bought it not in sets, but in separate containers. None of the existing kits suited me - for my taste, they contain items I don't need. Why pay for this?
The very first I bought a 5.6-liter saucepan (diameter 24 cm) in 1999-2000. I don’t remember how much it cost then, but more than $ 200 for sure. I used it, as they say, both in the tail and in the mane: I cooked the first, second, pilaf, fried meat, baked a biscuit (not in the oven, but on the burner), etc. In a word, I used and use it very often, more others. And she got the most, because I studied on her. I will honestly say that I am not a hostess, because I think that I am not for the dishes, but the dishes are for me. Therefore, especially about the type of pots, I did not bother, that is, I was too lazy to rub / wipe them after each cooking, washed and set to dry. Therefore, after washing, they look like this

I tear off my pots with iron sponges, I interfere with dishes with iron spoons / spatulas, etc., that is, I treat my dishes (Zepter and others) in the same way. Well, I'm such a mistress, not me for the dishes!
If I wipe my saucepan dry after washing, it will look like this


Of course, I'm still the same photographer, but it seems to be clear that the view of the saucepan is still very good.
I showed this saucepan because it is the "oldest" one. There are also pots, which I would also like to show, because one of them stood for several hours on a burning gas burner without water, in the other apricot jam because of my forgetfulness burned down tightly and I had to tear it off with a chisel ... But this is a little later , can?

[mr.Catlery]

Which was required to prove ... Zepter dishes are neither better nor worse than many other, but much cheaper, dishes. I just got sick of this "splashing saliva" about the "incomparability" of the Zepter from their sellers. Moreover, there is a tendency towards aggressive and boorish behavior.
I really want the participants of our forum to hear me. Let's continue, if situations similar to yesterday arise, do not enter into accusatory and lengthy discussion with sales agents. In this topic, the topic of the true state of affairs has already been fully disclosed, for which many thanks to the distinguished mr.Catlery... If all of a sudden newcomers come here with questions about the Zepter "is it really ...?", Then you can offer to read the information that has already illuminated and clarified all this earlier.

SWIFTA, thanks for the photo shoot!
After these photos EVERYTHING became clear. The pans are normal, one might even say GOOD! I liked the bottom - plump! The squiggles there, of course, make it difficult to clean. Plastic inserts in the handles are a risk zone. Everything else is quite at the level and nothing more. A very visual aid where the crazy money goes in all MLM (Multi Level Marketing) pyramids.

$ 200 per pot
Here is a set for $ 100 of the Turkish company Korkmaz, even Mr. Catlery praised it: (he criticizes more often)
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Yes, I forgot to write that Korkmaz is better than Nürsultan, whose pot I exhibited yesterday and which I have been using for 15 years.

Here is a set for $ 100 of the Turkish company Korkmaz, even Mr. Catlery praised it:
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These dishes have very competent hands. One of my kits has similar ones. They absolutely do not heat up and dirt does not cling anywhere there. With other handles in the PMM, water flows into the lid and into the handles, then you take out the pan, and the smudges from the handles - you have to additionally rinse the lid and unscrew the lid. And where the handles are made from a bar - beauty, no extra hassle.

These dishes have very competent handles. One of my sets has similar ones. They absolutely do not heat up and dirt does not cling anywhere there. With other handles in the PMM, water flows into the lid and into the handles, then you take out the pan, and the smudges from the handles - you have to additionally rinse, unscrew the lid. And where the handles are made from a bar - beauty, no extra hassle.

Please tell me, where does the condensate drip from the lids when you remove them during cooking? And where do you put the hot lid if you need to remove it? I think that condensation drips on somewhere where you put it, for example on a table, leaving stains or drops, or drips on your feet or hands and you burn yourself .. most likely this is exactly what happens .... Also, on your lids, I do not see temperature controllers, the cat allows you to track the cooking process without looking into the pan, which for some dishes (for example, milk porridge) simply needs not to disturb the cooking itself. This is not possible in your set. you will open your pot several times, stirring, which causes inconvenience. You cannot even leave the house at this moment.

And zepter is also the convenience in preparation and versatility of each item.
1) After removing the lid, you insert it into the handle of the pan, which allows you not to burn yourself with condensation, the cat does not drip on the floor or table, but accumulates in the groove of the lid
2) The lid can also be used as a bowl or plate for preparing food
3) The finished dish can be immediately served hot on the table in the cooked dish by placing the saucepan or pan on the same lid, since it stands upside down on the surface stably upside down. and will never turn over ..
4) The liquid from the pan can be poured into a container with a narrow neck without using a funnel (for example, milk into a baby bottle), since the liquid will flow in a thin stream.
5) And, best of all, the liquid does NOT drip from these pots when poured, but gently flows back into the pan, which allows you to keep the work surface clean.
6) And in the Zepter mixer, you can make mayonnaise in a couple of minutes, and by placing all the ingredients at once, NOT separating the yolk from the protein and pouring the oil by drip, you DO NOT need to pour the oil, since the speed of this mixer is 16 thousand rpm ... And here is such a small mixer replaces your meat grinder, coffee grinder, and blender at the same time ... And the milk is frothed into milkshakes without adding ice cream.

Try to foam the milk with your mixer just in its pure form ... It won't work. And try to pour oil into your blender for cooking mayolnez at once, throw everything out. The oil is usually poured drop by drop so that the detachment does not go .. But in Zepter there is no such problem ...

[misshelen1]

So, a cat from home - mice to dance ...

misshelen1as you allow yourself openly provocative behavior, I inform the Administrator about it. And he will already decide whether to send you to the ban and how much.

Well, at least buy a pemolux. .. A better noise ... and your dishes will be like new.

I will allow myself a comment in your style. Your advice to use Shumanite (even if you think that they should clean the pots outside) in the light of your requests and attempts to cook the most healthy food without any harmful effects is simply idiotic. One way or another, the hostess will either breathe in the vapors of this muck, or the same muck will fall on the inner surfaces of the dishes.

[Dear forum users! A big request: adhere to the correct line of behavior, do not use over-citations (keep only the part that you are commenting in the quote).]

Dear forum users! A big request: adhere to the correct line of behavior, do not use over-citations (keep only the part that you are commenting in the quote).

And I see that some are eager to follow, violating paragraph 12 Forum rules.

Now I want to show that saucepan that "burned, burned, but did not burn." I have a saucepan - a 2.2-liter dipper with a diameter of 16 cm. It is convenient for me to heat something in it, sometimes I can boil the water. So that time (about 5 years ago) I decided to boil water in it for tea (I don't seem to have a teapot, but I probably had to, otherwise I would show it here). I put this ladle of water (about a third of its volume) on the gas stove, turned on a medium fire ... I was distracted, I forgot and ran away somewhere on business for several hours ...When I returned, the saucepan was red and black: red from being hot, and black from the fact that the steel had already changed color from this temperature. Than I didn’t try to wipe it off later: a washcloth, shumanite, Amway oven cleaner ... Nothing helped. Then my husband, seeing my suffering and tears over the saucepan, took it to the garage, buzzed with something ... and returned it to me in the form shown in the photo.
This is the bottom ... He did not even touch him.
It's inside He could not reach here with his apparatus - its diameter is larger than the diameter of the saucepan.
And here she is now outside, where he was able to process her If you do not look into the middle or turn it over, then you cannot say that it was almost melted down. The photo does not fully convey its brilliance, since everything is reflected in its surface (she said).
This is a pen Apparently, nothing happened to her.
And this is the cover. She, too, was not hurt. But the thermocontroller on one side melted a little, but it shows regularly. And he didn't even lead.
You can draw conclusions yourself. All the same, the "lifetime guarantee" obliges you to something.

oh ... but the bottom of the saucepan didn't work? And then I also "boiled" in one steel water, and then foolishly decided to quickly cool it. The result is that the layers in the bottom have been torn apart, there is a small ghoul, but it did not affect consumer properties.

Nothing worked. But I didn’t put it under water, I cooled down naturally.

SWIFTA, after such a test, I got some respect for Zepter. The main reason is the plastic on the handles! If it has withstood such a temperature, then it is of high quality!

I had a similar story with a still Soviet stainless steel saucepan. She is already a little over 30 years old. It was a pan with a thermo-spreading bottom. Not capsule, but something on the bottom of the outside was applied to it, something like copper sputtering. I burned it in a similar way, it got reddened. The color of the steel inside the pan at the bottom has changed, nothing can be cleaned, no polishing has been tried. And the handle lost one piece of plastic, the second survived. And she didn't change her shape! The pan is still alive, but I hardly use it - there is no need. And the hand does not rise to throw this rarity - I keep it for history.

Nothing worked. But I didn’t put it under water, I cooled down naturally.

I even cried at such a coincidence! I had exactly the same story, but only 10 years ago. Inside, it is essential, and there is a reminder of rotozoa, but without smells and other nonsense. Outside it was rubbed off, I don't remember what. See the rest in the photo session. In short, we still boil milk in it. Information for thought and conclusions about the "lifetime" guarantee: I bought it in "Pyaterochka" at the dacha for ridiculous money (which was in my back pocket and was enough for beer). Ketai! This is what this unfortunate ladle looks like now.
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The handle was not damaged.
Another very convenient packing box. Wait there are kept bills for housing and communal services. That is why it has survived.

I just wanted to ask with a spiteful person how the packaging had survived for so long. And below is an explanation.
I have a frying pan from my grandmother, my mother always said that it was cast iron. And then I once had the opportunity to put it on an induction cooker. She (the tile) should see cast iron, it seems, but did not recognize our rarity. So my question is what is it from? In grandma's time, what could they have made of cast iron?

[iris. ka]

iris. ka

Maybe cast aluminum after all? He was real, heavy in those days. And from time to time it became covered with carbon black and looked like cast iron?

It looks like it. I also have a frying pan (straight pan!) Made of cast aluminum. Heavy! But only the bottom is black, and from the sides and from the inside - the color of aluminum. It is not clear to her!