rin
Finally ripe for buying a multicooker for a family. Interested in the question - what kind of pot coating is better than Teflon or ceramic? Teflon seems to wear out quickly and gently, while ceramics are fragile and have not been proven to be safe for health. What are the opinions on this matter?
Xxenia
I don't know how for a multicooker, but ceramics are better for a frying pan. I have 2 pans for six months each (they gave me one day), I use them equally often, but there are more scratches on Teflon
rin
Thanks for the answer ))). I will clarify the question the frying pan is thick and the ceramics are more durable, if nothing is poured in solid, Teflon should be more or less preserved in a bread maker, and in a multicooker there, after all, solid products are laid, therefore, the load on the walls is probably higher. Nobody has investigated anything about the safety of ceramics, or rather organic-sputtered silicon. This is not the kind of ceramics that are in baking pots))). The pots should understandably be neutral to food acids.
SupercoW
but it seems to me in our time we can no longer be sure of anything. Unfortunately. so my opinion is not to bother, but to take what is suitable for the price, functions and, of course, visually like it.
Vei
Ceramic non-stick coating is not ceramic pots at all, you absolutely rightly noticed that. And its safety is questioned by many! And non-stick properties are lost at most after a year, but as a rule much earlier (((
But modern Teflon, especially the Japanese daikin, meets all the latest safety requirements.
Plus, multicooker has a low-temperature regime, and therefore even old Teflon is not dangerous at such low temperatures.
rin
Quote: Vei

Ceramic non-stick coating is not ceramic pots at all, you absolutely rightly noticed that. And its safety is questioned by many! And non-stick properties are lost at most after a year, but as a rule much earlier (((
But modern Teflon, especially the Japanese daikin, meets all the latest safety requirements.
Plus, multicooker has a low-temperature regime, and therefore even old Teflon is not dangerous at such low temperatures.
Yeah thanks. I also tend to Teflon more. Moreover, they say they have learned how to restore it in saucepans. If you tell me in which MV the Teflon Daikin is in, I will be immensely grateful.
Vei
Quote: rin

If you tell me in which MV the Teflon Daikin is in, I will be immensely grateful.
Absolutely in the remnants of Brand 37501 and 6050, and also, in my opinion, in Korean MVs like Cuckoo and Oursson, but I'm not sure about the latter. In any case, Koreans are VERY confused about health safety, and their coatings must be safe.
Nikasa
Quote: rin

If you tell me in which MV the Teflon Daikin is in, I will be immensely grateful.
The redmond multicooker also has daikin and anato (Korea) bowl coverings. you can look at their official website.
sazalexter
Quote: rin

Finally ripe for buying a multicooker for a family. Interested in the question - what kind of pot coating is better than Teflon or ceramic? Teflon seems to wear out quickly and gently, and ceramics are fragile and health safety has not been proven. What are the opinions on this matter?
Read the topic, very interesting https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=3127.0

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=186131.0
Katrina
Better - multilayer)
Here's what they say in front of me: "Heavy-Duty Coated 9-Layer Bowl: The multi-layer bowl design of aluminum, stainless steel, nickel, bronze and gold provides increased thermal conductivity, reducing cooking time and minimizing energy costs. Heavy-duty non-stick coating that resists damage"
no matter how much I use it, nothing has ever burned. And it is very easy to clean.
They gave me a cartoon, but about a month later, as a true spy, I made my way to the hump and found out what is better from different sellers. They said that my Bork's bowl is unique, there are no such ones anymore.Mulnex seems to have a 5-ply. But the more layers, the better the preservation of taste is + the time for cooking is reduced.
ya_lada
Quote: Nikasa

The redmond multicooker also has daikin and anato (Korea) bowl coverings. you can look at their official website.
Good day! Here I am tormented by the choice of a multicooker, because we are about to wait for the second baby, and there is simply no time to cook physically. A very important criterion for me was also the quality of the bowl coating. There is really very little about ceramics, but here on the forum somewhere someone (I don’t remember what topic, because my head is already spinning from the number of readings) quoted some source about the unknown effect of ceramic coating on the body ... It was said that it had not been tested and that it had previously only been used in machine mechanisms, but never in cookware. After all, there was a time when Teflon was considered harmless. But about the new generation of teflon - daikin in redmond bowls, I looked at the information on the globaltech website, I thought to buy MB from them), so there is such a coverage only from Redmond 4502, which costs, respectively, 2290 UAH. (Ukraine). For example, about Redmond 4500 for 1390 UAH. it is written that the coating is non-stick Teflon, but for all the others that are cheaper than these amounts, it is simply written - the coating of the bowl is non-stick. So go and know what is meant in each particular case.
ya_lada
Quote: Vei

Plus, multicooker has a low-temperature regime, and therefore even old Teflon is not dangerous at such low temperatures.
What do you mean by low temperature mode? After all, boiling is still going on, the functions of roasting, baking are also present, that is, the temperatures are in any case 100 or more, isn't these temperatures high enough for Teflon?
sazalexter
Quote: yacia_lada

After all, there was a time when Teflon was considered harmless. But about the new generation of Teflon -
Teflon was and is harmless, more details https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=186131.440
IrishaSM
Can you tell me, please, is the diamond-fluoride non-stick coating on the multicooker bowls the same as the coal one, just named in other words?
sazalexter
The same, fluoropolymer, only different fillers, maybe quartz sand, coal, diamond ...
Vei
Quote: yacia_lada

What do you mean by low temperature mode? After all, boiling is still going on, the functions of roasting, baking are also present, that is, the temperatures are in any case 100 or more, isn't these temperatures high enough for Teflon?
It is believed that Teflon begins to emit toxic substances when heated above 300C, but even if at 204C (this is the lowest critical heating temperature declared by Teflon's opponents), then all MV operate at temperatures up to 150 - max 180C (MV with temperatures up to 180C also look It is necessary!) At the same time, the manufacturer always does not recommend heating empty dishes with such a coating, precisely to avoid overheating.

And in general, Teflon surrounds us everywhere, so either we need to hide in the forests of the taiga and eat from iron pots and pots, or live without fanaticism and spend money on normal and high-quality products.
IrishaSM
Quote: sazalexter

The same, fluoropolymer, only different fillers, maybe quartz sand, coal, diamond ...
Thank you! and what is considered more durable? with what filler?
sazalexter
Sandpaper rough to the touch, quartz sand and diamond.
IrishaSM
but this roughness does not affect its non-stick properties? Yes?
sazalexter
It mainly affects wear resistance, it is more difficult to scratch it with a spoon, for example.
igorechek
Quote: Vei

Ceramic non-stick coating is not ceramic pots at all, you absolutely rightly noticed that. And its safety is questioned by many! And non-stick properties are lost at most after a year, but as a rule much earlier (((
But modern Teflon, especially the Japanese daikin, meets all the latest safety requirements.
Plus, multicooker has a low-temperature regime, and therefore even old Teflon is not dangerous at such low temperatures.

Yes, just pay attention to the supposedly Korean Ourson (with the French flag on the official website) the cover inscription is not Daikin, but Dyking / It's like Brown-Brown, Panasonic-Pavasonik, etc.
And for example, my wife dropped the teflon-coated bowl 2 times already. Dents - that's all. Panasonic's coating is intact, but if there were ceramics, it would definitely burst.
The ceramic frying pan was WASTEEN after a year of non-daily use. So fairy tales about the wear resistance of ceramics are nonsense.
Although Teflon also has many manufacturers in Chinese firms, which add harmful acids FOR the STRENGTH of the Teflon compound, it is still cheap and cheerful. So, my opinion is to take the teflon coating of VERIFIED firms.
Adelena
I also asked this question when buying. For myself, I decided that the ceramic coating is definitely better. It is more convenient to use and lasts longer. As a result, I bought Redmond with a non-stick ceramic coating and I am absolutely satisfied. I have been using it for a month now, nothing burns, does not stick, does not smell, and the bowl itself is undamaged.
AiliA
Good day. I am choosing a new cartoon. Tell me, if it says "Daikin anodized aluminum with non-stick coating" - is it a good coating? And then I had a DEX60, so after 8 months everything stuck in it, the frying function could not be used at all.
Firecracker
Quote: AiliA

And then I had a DEX60, so after 8 months everything stuck in it, the frying function could not be used at all.
Oh really? Why slander about 60 ?! I bought this cartoon on 11/12/2011, that is, it has been in operation for almost 3 years. On the inner surface of the pots, and I have two of them (I took a spare one at once, I use both at the same time) there are no scratches and damages, it fries, bakes and stews without problems, nothing burns and the pastries pops out with a bang. I treat the saucepans with care, do not rub them with graters and use only silicone spatulas and spoons.
AiliA
Quote: Firefighter

Oh really? Why slander about 60 ?! I bought this cartoon on 11/12/2011, that is, it has been in operation for almost 3 years. On the inner surface of the pots, and I have two of them (I took a spare one at once, I use both at the same time) there are no scratches and damages, it fries, bakes and stews without problems, nothing burns and the pastries pops out with a bang. I treat the saucepans with care, do not rub them with graters and use only silicone spatulas and spoons.

Well, what does "slander" mean? So you're in luck. In addition, I have one saucepan, and I cooked absolutely everything in it - the stove is only for warming up.
And at the expense of respectful attitude - well, it's a no brainer that there are no graters and forks.
By the way, tell me please, where did you get the spare? We ordered the cartoon through the Allo online store. But I never found where to order the saucepan.
Taia
Firecracker in my cartoon Dex 60 baked goods began to stick after about a year of use. I do not use the cartoon often, carefully, there are almost no scuffs and scratches inside.
Firecracker
Quote: AiliA

By the way, tell me please, where did you get the spare? We ordered the cartoon through the Allo online store. But I never found where to order the saucepan.
Arina, I ordered my Dax from the second batch of receipt, waited a little more than two months until they finally appeared on sale, maybe the coating of the pots was a little better at that time, while the first batches were going? I ordered a cartoon in IM Dominant (Ukraine) only because only they had spare wheels then.
AiliA
Probably, as usual, what is first is good. Moreover, we took it by March 8, with a promotion and a discount, it came out 900 + UAH. Perhaps a fake was slipped
Thanks for the advice, I'll have to look in the Dominant when we get back. If there will be somewhere to return ... (We are from Donetsk)
Firecracker
Arina, now there are no reserves for the Dax in either the Dominant or the Rosette. I would like very much to believe that you will have somewhere to return and then you will look, pots may appear. In the meantime, when baking, you can line the bottom with baking paper (as in our old favorite pans)
AiliA
Firewoman, thanks.Let's go back and look.
In the meantime, we are looking for a new MV, Deksik stayed at home)) We advised Stadler - I’m thinking about which bowl to take - ceramics or black non-stick.
sazalexter
AiliA, Teflon is more durable than Daikin.
Manna
Quote: AiliA
with which bowl to take - ceramics or black non-stick.
Better non-stick from Daikin (they call this coating neoflon, very resistant)
AiliA
Manna, Alexander, thank you! I will take from Daikin
Irgata
but I don’t bother too much = I immediately bought a Teflon girlfriend for the ceramic saucepan available in the multitool, in ceramics I cook mainly milk and * on stewing *, and I use Teflon for baking and higher temperatures, based on simple economy - a Teflon saucepan (in our city) is more affordable and cheaper than ceramic
AiliA
Irina, I also thought about this option with different bowls
Elena745641
Tell "DAIKIN" is it teflon or ceramic? I choose a spare bowl there it says from aluminum with a ceramic coating "DAIKIN"
Wit
Above Sasha sazalexter already suggested: "Read the topic, very interesting https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=3127.0

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=186131.0 "
I recommend it too. Many of your questions are answered there. And "ceramics" will be in quotation marks when writing.
Elena745641
Maybe someone can give an answer to my question, about the fact that ceramics or Teflon are better, I no longer ask, because I do not hope to get an exact answer
Wit, in topics of 60 pages, there is no time to view everything
Rarerka
Quality Teflon is better for me. I don't need "ceramics" close, for example
Is that okay? (well, very short)
Elena745641
Yeah, just know where it is of high quality
Reading above, I realized that "DAIKIN" is Teflon, the description for the bowl says: from aluminum with ceramic coating "DAIKIN", that's what confused me
Manna
Daikin has a neoflon finish. It is not Teflon, but the coating is non-stick. It is considered to be more environmentally friendly than Teflon. I wrote this in several posts above.
Elenaif in doubt, give a link to your cup. We will help you.
Elena745641
🔗 here, that I was completely confused in these names, I did not know before and my head did not hurt (
Manna
Elena, the coating looks like "ceramic". Everything that I saw from Daikin's neophlon did not have such an obvious gloss.
Rarerka
Here is the unscratched grayness. Well, this very non-stick Daikin is. I have never heard the words neoflon, so I call this coating Teflon. And the white bowl really looks like "ceramics". I go around such a side
Elena745641
from my seller everyone praises the "ceramic" bowls of this company, when I took my ceramics I did not have it yet, I have Teflon, so I thought the second bowl to try another
Elena745641
Mannahow to choose a good teflon? how to recognize it? or are there super firms in this business?
Wit
Quote: Elena745641
everyone praises my salesperson's "ceramic" bowls are firms,
Then read on and don't think about "ceramics" anymore. By the way, in Europe dishes with a "ceramic" coating are classified as "easy-clean", that is, easy to clean, but not "non-stick" - non-stick.

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Elena745641
WitAre any röndell pans good? or also need to watch?
Wit
Elena745641, for pans you need here: 🔗 ... Talk to Kuhmeister... This is the director of the pan, the pan will build spruce plant. He does not refuse advice to anyone. And he knows a lot. Anyway, I am sure that you will absolutely like the pans there. But whether there are supplies to your city is a question. But röndell gives you a comprehensive answer. I think he was praising this Brand. I do not remember.
Good luck with your choice!
Elena745641
Thank you for your help and advice, I have already found shops where they sell this company in our city!

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