Choosing a dishwasher

I want to thank everyone who helped me in my choice. Bought it today, my car. Still BOSCH. All A-A-A! Connected, already washes. True, there were not many dishes, I had to load clean ones. But the test is serious
If you still share the best means for washing, in the sense of what is best to use and what is not, I will be very grateful!
Thanks again to everyone !!!

If you still share the best means for washing, in the sense of what is best to use and what is not, I will be very grateful!

Of all that I used, I stopped at Calgonit (powder), Calgonit 5 in 1 (tablets), Yplon (powder). Yplon is the cheapest, but it launders on a par with Calgonit.

Of all that I used, I stopped at Calgonit (powder), Calgonit 5 in 1 (tablets), Yplon (powder). Yplon is the cheapest, but it launders on a par with Calgonit.

I support! Most convenient and washes to a crisp. And nothing else needs to be added.

And who used 5 in 1 tablets for the BRAVIX dishwasher Manufacturer: "Dreko Werke", Germany .... I never took it, but at a price they are cheaper than Calgonit .... I also drew attention to Somat, someone had the opportunity to compare ? I have been using Calgonit all the time so far ... Share your impressions .....

I am using Yplon. 3kg. 245 RUB I buy at the Timiryazevsky market. It washes perfectly, no worse than expensive Calgonite.

I am using Yplon. 3kg. 245 RUB I buy at the Timiryazevsky market. It washes perfectly, no worse than expensive Calgonite.

But does it have to be used with salt, mouthwash? So far I have only used pills, I don’t even know how it all is?

Salt 50 rub. fall asleep once a month, the gloss (I do not remember how much) the bottle lasts for a long time. It seems to me that the pills may be more convenient (although it does not bother me to fall asleep and pour once a month), but they are much more expensive.

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Salt 50 rub. fall asleep once a month, the gloss (I do not remember how much) the bottle lasts for a long time. It seems to me that the pills may be more convenient (although it does not bother me to fall asleep and pour once a month), but they are much more expensive.

Agree. Pills much more expensive than salt-powder-rinse.
It is easy to add salt and rinse once a month)

Thank you all The salt and rinse aid is taken by the machine itself; will there probably be a measuring spoon? ... Now I should understand how much to pour ...

Thanks to all The salt and rinse aid is taken by the machine itself, I understood it, and should I measure out the powder and add it every time? will there probably be a measuring spoon? ... Now I should understand how much to pour ...

There is no measuring spoon, I sprinkle it by eye, by volume it is probably a couple of teaspoons, no more.

And who used 5 in 1 tablets for the BRAVIX dishwasher Manufacturer: "Dreko Werke", Germany .... I never took it, but at a price they are cheaper than Calgonit .... I also drew attention to Somat, someone had the opportunity to compare ? I have been using Calgonit all the time so far ... Share your impressions .....

I didn't really like the Bravix tablets ... Somat is better in my opinion ... I don't like Calgonit at all - not powder, not tablets.
Now I bought Frisсh-aktiv 7in1 Tablets from Oro-Produkte, Germany. So far, the impressions are positive. In my opinion, even better than Somat.

And the instructions for my dishwasher say that the tablets cannot be used.

And the instructions for my dishwasher say that the tablets cannot be used.

Now they produce cars with a built-in function called 3 in 1, this is for tablets ... You can't say anything, it's convenient ... but it's a little expensive .... Apparently your typewriter does not have this function ...

And the instructions for my dishwasher say that the tablets cannot be used.

That's great! It will be cheaper!
Our water is very hard, so salt is needed anyway. There is not enough salt in tablets with our hardness.And it is not so difficult to pour rinse aid once a month.
I use Calgonit. There is still stock. But I'm already looking at Somat. I have not met anything else yet.

And the instructions for my dishwasher say that the tablets cannot be used.

I have a small Bosch for 4 sets. They did not immediately think about the big one, and then it turned out that there was nowhere to put it, so they bought a desktop one.

And on the contrary, Braviks liked the means - and the rinse aid and the powder, but I didn't really like the Somat - it was some kind of thermonuclear in my opinion - I used it a little and the dishes started to deteriorate - this application began to wash off from Italian cups with colored applications, although before that I used Uplon and Calgonite, everything was in order. Therefore, I now use Uplon, Calgonite, Bravix, but not Somat.

Tell me what to do? I have a dishwasher Ariston, there were no problems before we started to make repairs, putting the dishwasher in the far corner for 2 months, now I ground it well, but there is a rotten smell in it and the dishes after washing are clean, but it smells awful than else wash the dishwasher, tried dishwashing powder, simple detergent, nothing helps, the smell remains

Salma, of course, I don't know about the dishwasher, but a slice of black bread in the refrigerator helps to remove unpleasant odors. Try it, maybe it will help in the dishwasher.

Tell me what to do?

Salma, there are special means for cleaning dishwashers, such as "CLEANER ORO FRISH ACTIVE FOR DISHWASHERS" (this is now available on Utkonos if you are in Moscow). I think there is no need to experiment with means that are not suitable for dishwasher, repairs are too expensive

Household appliance stores that sell dishwashers usually have a special air freshener for sale that hangs from a basket inside the machine and provides a pleasant smell. Perhaps it will suit you, but perhaps better after cleaning. They say it lasts for a month.

I have a request for the PMM users! Tell us, pzhlst, about dishwashing detergents, what is what for? Powder for washing your own dishes, right? And what is salt and rinse for? And is it possible, for example, to wash dishes with something else, with mustard powder, say?

Calgonit special salt dissolves easily and is guaranteed to remove plaque. The pure formulation ensures optimum performance of the water softener in your dishwasher, which prevents smudges on the dishes. Other salts may contain iron or carbonic acid impurities that can damage the water softener.
Calgonit rinse aid is necessary to prevent dripping on glasses and dishes. Provides free drainage of water from the surface of the dishes, which prevents the formation of traces of water drops and smudges on the dishes after drying. Also reduces the drying time of dishes, makes them more efficient and reduces the likelihood of oxidation of metal objects.

[LenaV07]

LenaV07

Viki well told what for what. In short, it's better not to replace specials with anything. cleaning agents - powder, rinse aid and salt - nothing else, as this can lead to breakage and unsatisfactory washing results. On the previous pages, who uses what companies, it is not necessary to buy the most expensive funds. It is better to buy a little cheaper, but specialized means, than to experiment with completely inappropriate ones.

And is it possible, for example, to wash dishes with something else, with mustard powder, say?

You don't need to use anything other than special means for PMM !!

I had a bad experience: I ran out of detergent powder and poured a few drops of regular hand dishwashing liquid. T. to.hand tools form a lot of foam, the aquastop worked in the car and it did not work for several days, waited until all the magic bubbles "blown away" and their traces dry (they could even crawl somewhere in the interior of the PMM, where it should be completely dry).

The conclusion is this: if you do not have any means at the moment, it is better not to replace it with anything, but simply wash without it. It happens to me from time to time. Nothing wrong. The machine can survive perfectly for several days without salt, and without garnish, and even without powder (after all, the washing temperature is 70 degrees there)

As for the mustard, it does not dissolve, so it can clog the nozzles that spray water (IMHO).

Why do you need to wash with something else? You do not machine wash with laundry soap.

just for information - mothers of children with allergies wash linen in a machine in an automatic machine with grated baby soap

Yesterday I bought a new dishwashing detergent at PMM.



These are gel capsules with a perfumery scent. Judging by the front side of the package, they are called: "Sun. All in one". Behind, it is already written in Russian that these are "3 in 1" capsules (incorrect translation).



But, as I understand it, this is a detergent + rinse aid + salt + air freshener + glass protection. The capsule must be placed in the detergent compartment, i.e. used as usual. When washing the dishes, the capsule dissolves.

Here are these gel capsules up close:



I washed the dishes in the PMM with these capsules. The result is great! Everything shines and shines.
In general, if you meet them in a supermarket, you can safely take them.

[Yana]

Yana where did you buy this product?

[Alina]

Alina, bought gel capsules for PMM in the "Seventh Continent". But, I think that they should also be sold in other large supermarkets.

I have a dishwasher for 12 people Bosch SGS 43E72EU, 5 programs, cool thing! I wash everything in it and glasses and pans! The glass washes the way you can't wash it with your hands.

She washes the dishes well, but dries it sucks. Although she has a drying class A.

What do you wash with? Pour in tablets or means, maybe the detergent is not enough, my dishes are all dry. I use colgonit tablets for 10 types of dishes

I need advice from experienced dishwasher owners, a couple of weeks ago I bought a kandy dishwasher, I was very pleased while washing standard kitchen utensils, jars, dishes (well, as usual). On my husband's anniversary, when I washed a transparent glass service, I found white streaks. I increased the consumption of rinse aid, salt, well, as the instructions say, it only got worse for mine, what versions are there?

I only had white smudges on Teflon. Well, even during operation, it turned out that cast-iron pans cannot be washed.

You try, on the contrary, to reduce the amount of rinse aid.
In general, I now use tablets - there are no problems, and before the rinse aid dispenser was at a minimum and there were no smudges, although the kitchen utensils were made of transparent glass (brown transparent Vereco service)
Somehow, some oily smudges appeared: I drove it empty with a dishwasher cleaner (I put less well than according to the instructions - and then - the foam climbed from all sides), but there were no oily (colored) smudges.

I ran it dry with dishwasher cleaner

And what is this remedy? can I have a name or a picture?

[Delu - Dishwasher descaler]

called Delu, I also saw it in the store, Luxus for dishes. machines

Delu - Dishwasher descaler

Removes limescale deposits in the interior of the dishwasher and on heating elements, grease and removes unpleasant odors. Leaves a protective layer that for a long time (2-3 months) prevents the formation of new lime deposits. With occasional use, it significantly extends the life of the dishwasher. Does not contain aggressive components, treats metal surfaces and internal parts of the dishwasher carefully.After using the product, the interior surfaces of the machine return to their original shine. Environmentally friendly.

Application: Remove the dishes and clean the filter
fill the dosing chamber with the agent, add the remainder to the outside
run the machine without a preliminary run and other detergents.
Apply regularly every 2-3 months.
contains organic acid.

The first time I added as much as it should be according to the instructions, After starting, the foam climbed out of all the holes, I had to stop, start the program several times, drain the water until the concentration of the powder decreased.
Now I add less than half of the prescribed time every 3-4 months.

Has anyone had such an incident with a cleaner?

Well, in my opinion, tablets are generally self-indulgence, they are expensive, and if you compare the consumption with the powder, then in general it turns out horror. I took 5 in one, then I counted and stopped such experiments. Moreover, they will not be able to fully work on every program.

[fugaska]

fugaska,
Be sure to buy. Although large is undoubtedly better (but at the same time less economical), small also makes life easier.
Now such detergents for dishes that after them irritation on the hands (and I can't get used to washing dishes with rubber gloves).

Well, in my opinion, tablets are generally self-indulgence, they are expensive, and if you compare the consumption with the powder, then in general it turns out horror.

I agree with this. I use "Calgonit" powder and the same salt.

fugaska Regarding the models you indicated, a friend - BOSCH SKT 5108, washes well, but my desktop Electrolux is somewhat inferior, especially in terms of drying.

But I do not agree with this. !!!
I take out after the end of the cycle absolutely dry dishes... I don't know how it can be drier? !!!

OU and the BOSCH company somehow inspires more confidence.

Dimensions
height 440 mm
width 555 mm
depth 460 mm
Weight 24 kg

[Milena!]

Milena!
Can I ask for the phone number of your store in a personal message?

About the salt. I have a Bosch 5513. When I poured salt for the first time, it all did not fit. In the box there is ... probably three hundred grams. Well, I didn't buy a spare (it seems there is still). And when the sensor for lack of salt caught fire, I poured this residue ... and the sensor did not go out! Now I always pour half a box. That is, there is some solid minimum, and the remaining salt may not be enough.

milena20111984 with the purchase of you!
The hairpin and I, too, do not have all the salt, I pour in as much as it will go in, but somehow I added the rest of the gr. 300 was and the sensor went out, but a week and a half was enough.

[Milena]

Milena! But I fell asleep when I bought it (09/26) and while it still does not require filling, although our water is considered the softest, but I set it to 4. Yes, in my opinion, salt happens in all stores.

zvezda

We have really soft water and I calmly, for several years, set the salt to 1.

Boldly ... Something I can't believe ... How did you define softness?
I never found the indicator strips in pet stores.

Boldly ... Something I can't believe ... How did you define softness?
I never found the indicator strips in pet stores.

these reagents are available from the aquarium store. I do not have stripes, but a jar into which water and a reagent are poured, which is added 1 drop at a time. how many drops you need to add to a certain color - so much the hardness of the water expressed in German degrees. (this is the common SI).
and the stripes are most likely to determine acidity.

and the stripes are most likely to determine acidity.

No, there were also strips for determining the hardness - "Tests for measuring the hardness of water Aquadur" - paper strips for determining the hardness of water - measurement range 0 - 250d (0 - 450f).

My beard is set to 1, because I use a gel, and in the anatomy it was written: when using this product, the use of a beard is not necessary.

That is, instead of powder, you pour gel? And if I'm not mistaken, Japanese?

Still, if between my nerves and the price of the rinse aid, I would have saved my nerves ... I would have bought and filled in the rinse aid.
And I don't see the point in pills. I just don't understand how the tablet will determine if my water is hard or not. I set myself a stiffness of five, I sprinkle salt on the sensor and don't bother. And with pills? I would sit and wonder if there is enough salt for my hardness or not ... Nerves are more expensive than this box of salt.

Still, if between my nerves and the price of the rinse aid, I would have saved my nerves ... I would have bought and filled in the rinse aid.
And I don't see the point in pills. I just don't understand how the tablet will determine if my water is hard or not. I set myself a stiffness of five, I sprinkle salt on the sensor and don't bother. And with pills? I would sit and wonder if there is enough salt for my hardness or not ... Nerves are more expensive than this box of salt.

I agree 100%! I also use separate means ... But the sellers have already sold pills to Milena ...

[Hairpin]

Hairpin, In the settings of the machine, you can remove the sound of the end of work.
And about the pills, I agree even 200%, because when buying PMM, there were pills as a gift Calgonite !!! So after them the dishes were always wet. And after the powder, I dump the machine right away and the dishes are only hot, but dry.

[aynat]

aynat
Hooray thanks a lot for the explanation
and I pressed the program selection button, then let go and pressed turn on, I have a hardness of 3! although the litmus test showed soft water (which is hard to believe at all), should it be rearranged to a two or so?
thanks again.
and the pills were really vparili-bastards, the sellers after all! for about 20 minutes he bred us while he was making out the dishwasher. I was totally against it, then my husband gave up first and began to advise me to buy too
and I, like a weak woman, gave up

Hairpin
I also decided that I would go and buy a rinse aid and be calm. and I poured salt anyway, otherwise it would be completely scary

Well, it worked! I told you that these cars are twin brothers (sisters?).

Regarding the hardness, I would leave it at 3 for now, watch out for the glassware, if whitish stains begin to appear, then the water is too soft, you need to reduce the salt. Like so.

watch out for glassware, if whitish stains begin to appear, then the water is too soft, you need to reduce the salt. Like so.

So in case of stains, you need to reduce salt or rinse aid? !!! I'm adjusting the rinse aid !!! In my opinion, this is what the instructions say ...