Zubastik
How "clean" dishes should you load into the dishwasher? For some reason, all my friends before loading the dishes wash or wipe them with a paper towel, is it really impossible to put just dirty dishes without large food residues? Sorry for the possibly naive question, but there was never a dishwasher, but now I'm going to buy.
And by the way I stopped the choice on the full-size Bosh.
Yana
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All unanimously say that it is necessary to add practically clean dishes, and perhaps they simply do not know how to make dishes.

Zubastik, you need to look at the instructions for it before buying a PMM. It should indicate whether or not you can load dishes with large food debris. As a rule, such machines have a multi-stage filtration system. These filters should be cleaned as they become dirty. But cleaning them is simple, you just need to rinse with water and insert back.
Rustic stove
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Anastasia, thank you for your feedback!
My friends have dishwashers like Ariston, Indesit, Zanussi - maybe it's just not a super dishwasher? All unanimously say that it is necessary to add practically clean dishes, and perhaps they simply do not know how to make dishes.

I have an ariston, I put the dishes in the sink, that is, I shake off the garbage in the trash bin, and put the dishes in the dishwasher. The filter, if something remains, is simply washed under the tap.
I don't really understand what is the point of putting clean dishes in the PM)))
Zubastik
So I don't understand why wash it first! Well, okay, one person said, and then there are several at once! In general, after your feedback, my doubts are all dispelled - we must boldly buy !!! THANK YOU!!!
Yana
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So I don't understand why wash it first! Well, okay, one person said, and then there are several at once!

The cleanliness of the dishes washed in the PMM depends on the number of directions of water supply. The more of them, the cleaner the dishes. In economical models, there are fewer such directions, therefore, you have to pre-clean the dishes from food debris. When you buy PMM, consider this too.
Okssi
I am sincerely surprised ... I have been using the dishwasher with delight for a year now, and for the first time I hear that someone recommends rinsing the dishes before the dishwasher. You just need to remove the leftovers from the plates before putting them in the machine and soak if something is burnt and that's it! I don't have a fancy middle-class typewriter and my instructions say in black and white "Do not rinse."
Mams
The question was born ... Dishwasher owners - how do you put the dishes in the machine? I read somewhere that in order to put it there, it must be cleaned of food debris and rinsed ... In this case, it can already be washed ...
And how really?
Pupstt
It is not very clear what you mean by "food leftovers" ...
It is clear that if people have not finished eating something, then it must be cleaned off the plate into the trash, and if it is simply smeared with food, then nothing should be rinsed. No, well, maybe someone rinses it, I put it this way and it washes well.
Boo Boo
SkoNaNi, and where should the 3 rocker be located?
I now have 2 rockers, however, as before. But how many directions of water I do not know.
Really all the dishes fit in the table. I have so many dishes in a day that I can hardly even fit into a large one.
SkoNaNi
Boo Boo, not only fit, but still fits, neatly tamped and washed
3rd rocker is located at the very top ("under the roof")
Boo Boo
Well, if under a roof, it probably washes better, but it will be more difficult to cram the dishes.I already have large plates on the top shelf that do not fit, and even with a rocker so in general.
No, I still can't imagine how you can stick everything into a small car. It's just some kind of trick.
SkoNaNi
Boo Boo, well, firstly, long workouts and calculations, and secondly, everything is individual, someone uses too many dishes, and someone uses less ... Of course, I wash something right while cooking, because sometimes you need the same thing several times ...
Boo Boo
Reporting on the situation after several days of using the new Kaiser dishwasher. She washes the dishes well, but dries it sucks. Although it has a drying class A. Apparently turbo drying is not good, before I had condensation and dried much better. It still works quieter than my old one. And as before, the arrangement of the dishes really finishes me. Very uncomfortable baskets. In general, I am no longer upset as before, but I also do not feel delight.
Boo Boo
I used to use pills. Now I switched to separate funds. It seems to have become better. It's not about the powders at all. It amazes me that for 13 years they could not come up with anything sensible and everything became even worse than it was. You just have nothing to compare with. My friend changed the old Indesit but Bosch also spits.
In general, now everything seems to be fine, but damn uncomfortable baskets for dishes. I already even looked whether it was possible to stop the upper basket from the old typewriter, that's what it came to.
I have a suggestion, let's display pictures of a fully loaded dishwasher. It will come in handy for beginners, and old people can see some ideas for loading. For example, I removed the handle and the upper part from the cutlery container (where spoons and forks should be inserted). The handle just got in the way, and I was lazy to shove into the holes, and it’s more convenient to get it this way.
zvezda
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I have a suggestion, let's display pictures of a fully loaded dishwasher. It will come in handy for beginners, and old people can see some ideas for loading. For example, I removed the handle and the upper part from the cutlery container (where the spoons and forks should be inserted). The handle just got in the way, and I was lazy to shove into the holes, and it’s more convenient to get it this way.
What a great offer !!!!I still can’t learn how to arrange it, I’m putting everything on the top shelf ... but I really want to learn !!!! Girls, do not be lazy, put the pictures exactly loaded machines !!!!! Thank you in advance!!!
Hairpin
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I have a suggestion, let's display pictures of a fully loaded dishwasher.

I will not exhibit. If you see that I start the car with four pans ... Then ban me forever ... I have no problem at all to shove more. I fold very freely. I even put the plates through the section. By the way, there were cases of non-washing when there was a lot of something. If I fill all the sections in the basket for spoons / forks, then there is practically no chance that everything will be washed. Especially when one spoon overlaps the other.
Lenusya
Girls here is my version of the arrangement (although my car is not full-sized (45 cm), if there are no pans, then a row of plate holders rises below.

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Boo Boo
Here is my dishwasher load. Sori, the dishes are dirty. I put a timer for the night, in the morning my husband will sort it out before I get up.

top shelf

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the bottom shelf, there is still a lot of space left on it, you could cram more.
I inserted the upper insert into the basket for spoons, usually I do not use it and most likely I will remove it again, since it is dreary to shove spoons into holes.

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Well, this madam accidentally got into the frame, the dishes smell very tasty

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Hairpin
Boo Boo!!! This is not madam !!! This is an additional, or rather, the first degree of cleaning in your dishwasher !!! After all, if you first remove the remnants of food from it, it will be cleaner !!!

Personally for Boo Boo showing my download:

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Upper and lower baskets respectively. Dishes after sculpting potato roses + juicer parts, after my daughter squeezed apples. Well, what should I wait with them until tomorrow ?! And this is the second launch tonight.The first one was at the same level.
Margot
So in the evening I put it in the dishwasher, I could still report, but I didn't find anything else

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NVK
Girls, well, explain to me !!!! I am already a happy owner of Boska SRV 53M03 ... 45 cm ... But I just can't understand how you manage to save up dishes for a day or two? ... We have a family of 4 people, my husband, I'm two small kinders ... now we are together, kids in the village ... So my dishwasher plows 2 times a day .... Or am I so dirty? : red: Well, for example, I made cupcakes today, - 3 plastic bowls, whisks for a mixer, plus dishes from breakfast - everything is full ... And how do you manage to drive the car once in two days?
Caprice
I also decided to post pictures of my full-size Boshik download. I will make a reservation right away: it is not fully loaded yet, it is waiting for our next meal, for a full load.

How to place dishes in the dishwasher

How to place dishes in the dishwasher

NVK
oh, where else to download ??? top ?? And everything will be washed out? At what temperature?
Kalmykova
NVK ! Do not worry ! I have a similar Bosch 45, and also a family of 4, periodically 5 people. 2 times - this is stable, and sometimes 3. And this is with good stuffing! We just use a lot of dishes, the husband always comes to dinner in the afternoon, no one drinks twice from a cup, we cook a lot, etc.
NVK
Oh, thank you, calmed me down .... What kind of Bosch do you have? The fact is that I have already washed on different programs, but there are unwashed areas, the dried-on is not washed off ..... Have you ever had this? Maybe you need to change the powder?
Caprice
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oh, where else to download ??? top ?? And everything will be washed out? At what temperature?
Yes, easily There will still be a bunch of plates and a small saucepan, if desired.And I wash it on the shortest economical program, and everything is perfectly washed with me. My Finish-classic tablets with the addition of rinse aid and salt as needed .. As for the dried one, I try not to allow it to dry out / stick. These places, before being placed in the PMM, I pass a sponge. And it is necessary to place the dishes so that water and detergents flow evenly into all places of the machine. Then there will be no unwashedness.
bluekitten
I do not know which topic is better to ask, I will ask in this one.
Yesterday I used the dishwasher for the first time. There were few dirty dishes and I decided to just wash the entire table set. Glassware washed perfectly, forks and large spoons too.
But the small spoons were not washed at all (or rather, only the pens were washed).
They stood in the center of the cutlery basket. I have it divided into three sections, while the middle has a slightly raised bottom and it turns out due to this less deep, I decided that it was specially for small spoons and put them there.
Since they were the only ones not washed to the black, the only reason that comes to my mind is that I did not place the dishes correctly.
Has anyone else encountered this? And what to do?
lega
You have placed the spoons correctly. Perhaps they were incorrectly deployed or the water access was blocked by something. If everything else is well washed, then everything is in order with the car. Next time, try making sure that the spoons are placed with the concave side towards the nozzles. Check out page 3 of post # 20 in this thread. There is a photo of Lenusi with the spoons turned correctly.
Zubastik
Owners narrow 45 cm. I want to recommend cars remove the cutlery basket... Stick forks and spoons into the nets between the circles (which are located above the lower row of mugs where we wash the lids, spatulas, etc.), place ladles and spatulas in the free space between the plates. Stick long spoons and forks in the corners, make sure that the blade does not touch them.
I read this advice on another forum and the basket went to be kept in the locker - well, it is not needed! Now on the bottom row much more large-sized dishes fit and all the forks are washed even better.
Perhaps this will not suit everyone - but my Bosch adjusts the height of the upper basket, if it is lowered everything fits, and if you keep it in the upper position, this method does not work.But worth a try!
bluekitten
I also have Bosch, but I can't imagine what you are talking about. If you stick cutlery into the bookcase, then you can't put anything under it.

By the way, it is convenient to lay ladles on the shelf of the lower basket (the "head" is on the shelf, and the handle hangs down). I first load the dishes, and then in this way I place all the ladles and slotted spoon on top.
Zubastik
Is that clearer? The photo shows the upper basket where we put the mugs. We place the spoons and forks on the nets that are above the circles, so that the handles of the forks hang down between the circles. If someone washes small mugs on these nets, they can be placed directly on the spoons. I don't have small mugs at all, only lids or little things were washed there before, or they were empty at all.
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And now for me in more detail about the ladles! Where should the head be? It's like a head on the bottom basket and the handle is still hanging somewhere? What is a lower basket shelf? Where are the ribs for the plates?
bluekitten
It's clear, it's just that my upper basket is always crammed to capacity (I put plastic bowls under the whatnots so that they don't fly, and I put the mugs in the center). The large bookcase is completely occupied with knives, the small one - with rosettes and small cups.
By the way, cool cup holder And I have the same strainer

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And now for me in more detail about the ladles!
Here on this bookcase you put ladles with "heads", and the tails are looking towards the door. In the evening I'll take a picture of how it looks
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Zubastik
And I don't have such a bottom shelf. What kind of model?
bluekitten
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And I don't have such a lower shelf. What kind of model?
Bosch SRV 55 T 34 EU, it seems ... Now I looked on the Internet, and the truth is not all models have a lower shelf
bluekitten
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RybkA
And I'm just a beginner PMM user. Since my hands did not "reach" to read the necessary topics in advance, so I did everything purely intuitively and since it was convenient for me, it may not even be entirely correct.
I haven't used the spoon basket yet. I laid all the spoons / forks with a jack on the upper basket, in the lowest recess of the basket, and on top I also put those cups that did not have enough space. Everything was cleaned up perfectly. Now I read that you can insert it into the folding shelf on the upper basket, I will definitely try. After yesterday's wash, one spoon fell to the bottom
bluekitten , your knives are so beautifully inscribed in the hollows. I have no such nuance.
Klimola
I have PM for 2 days. It seemed to me that I knew everything about her, because I shoveled a lot of information. But loading the dishes is still very entertaining for me. I'm afraid to cram a lot, so as not to be disappointed in the quality of the sink. They say that if you load the excess, it will not wash. I am worried that one might crash against the other in the process. By the way, did anyone have this? Otherwise, I try to keep the vessels from touching each other. And the cutlery basket is so big that I don't have so many spoons forks, but it takes up a lot of space. And I can't put plastic holders into the top - they fly by. I train so far.
Lisss's
I did not break one on one, but rubbed. if the sides of the glass and ceramic cups were in contact, then on the glass such a strip remained as if it was worn.
zvezda
Klimola!!! When I just started using it, it reminded me of Tetris ..... now it seems that I have already adapted for a year ... but I don't use a basket for forks and spoons, I bought a small plastic dryer and put it on, and it takes up less space and is convenient highly!!!
Lisss's
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I bought a small plastic dryer and put it on, and it takes up less space and is very convenient !!!

and to show the common people what to look for?
Klimola
Thank you,Lisss's, for information. So I’m not trying in vain.
zvezda, and the plastic little dryer is not a special dishwasher, simple from a household store? And then I had thoughts in some service center to order a smaller size, even if from another model.Maybe not to be wise, but really to look at the stores? Please, if not difficult, post a photo of your little plastic dryer.
RybkA
Klimola , we will study together, I also use it for two days.
By the way, today at my friend's house I was looking at her basket for spoons / forks - completely different, in the form of a purse with a carrying handle, and on top there is also a lid with holes covered. It looks more like a regular household dryer.
Klimola
RybkA, and what is your PM? I also have a basket in the form of a purse with a handle. So I would gladly take off the pen (I already tried it - it didn't work), but the instructions for my Vekoshechka say that in some models this basket is collapsible.
We will think about how to optimize the dishwashing process !!!
RybkA
I have Ariston, there are no pens and overhead lids on the basket. Just a basket of four divisions and that's it.
Boo Boo
I have never had anything beat, the dishes touch during washing, and sometimes I put an overlap. The only thing I fear is that there have been cases when a glass jar from purchased cucumbers (or something else) touches something with its paper sticker, I have this happened with cups, then indelible traces of paint from this label remain on the cups.
My basket is collapsible, a mesh is put on top. I put two sections out of three, one with a grid, the other without.
RybkA
And in my set for the PMM there are two long plastic uh ... sticks ... paddles ... perhaps, who knows what it is for? There is not a word about these things in the instructions.
Boo Boo
aaaaaaaaa, I have a stupid car. I tried to poke the spoons into the upper plastic dropping nets. It didn't work. Not enough headroom. Nothing fits in there, except for completely flat objects. Then I tried to rearrange the upper basket lower and immediately a more serious problem arose. Large plates no longer fit on the bottom shelf. I rearranged everything and was once again upset.
Omela
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And the cutlery basket is so big that I don't have so many spoons forks, but it takes up a lot of space.

I removed the handle and lid from the basket, thus the inner space increased. and put there any little things, for example, lids from cans, a knife from a thermomix. conveniently.

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zvezda
Boo Boo!!! And what is your car ??? Tomorrow I'll take a picture of a basket ...
Boo Boo
I have a hated Kaiser, and at the dacha there is an old lady Kandy.

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