milena20111984
everything is learned over time
I washed my favorite Teflon frying pan, the cat never burned in the dishwasher, and then I read in the forum that it is impossible ... the horror of the cutlets are all burnt ... everything burns. horror
so insulting
now I know that teflon pans and knives are not allowed, and also that you cannot wash there ?? so as not to spoil ...
Pogremushka
I wash tefal and knives. Another thing is that washing Teflon with your hands is a matter of seconds, but if I'm really lazy, I send it to the PMM, although I know that it is not desirable. Nothing burns. In general, look at the marks on the dishes themselves. I have a Teflon pan with an icon on the bottom that allows washing in PMM.
Hairpin
I also wash pans with some kind of coating in the PMM. Whether it's Teflon or not, I don't know ...
Boo Boo
I have ikeevskie teflon pans. You cannot wash in the dishwasher, but sometimes I wash the saucepan from the multicooker too.
Pogremushka
Once I washed a manual meat grinder in the PMM (before in every house there were such, you push the meat with one hand, turn the handle with the other). And she turned black, washed for a long time afterwards. I could be wrong, but, in my opinion, aluminum alloys behave this way. Something there reacts with the powder and you get what you get. himichky need to call.
Tanyusha
Pogremushka so in my passport for the typewriter it was written that aluminum dishes cannot be washed. True, with the gel that I now use for washing, it is written in the anatomy that you can wash aluminum dishes, you must try.
sazalexter
Pogremushka very old meat grinders, made of tin-coated cast iron. So it turns black. Aluminum in PM corrodes, becomes shiny matte, in places with "shells"
Katyushka
And my dad sends everything to the dishwasher and doesn't look at any icons. I washed some meowing mugs there - they didn't meow anymore
Boo Boo
In general, I shove a lot of things into it. Flower vases, air purifier filters, shades, etc.
Pogremushka
tanya1962, so it is written for me. I just did not expect such behavior from a meat grinder.
sazalexter, apparently I have a sooo old meat grinder.
Hairpin
And I’m my non-stick stuff there ...
Anastasia
I, too, once washed the meat grinder in the PMM, and not even manually, but parts from the Kenwood electric meat grinder. Naturally, it also turned black and only after that I read the instructions for the meat grinder and found out that this should not be done. Now any aluminum I have is prohibited from washing in PMM. But here's how many already my Teflon and a saucepan from multi-and all without sad consequences absolutely!
Hairpin
Soap grinder ... Moulinex ... I need to get it off, maybe it turned black too ...
Tanyusha
Now I put the aluminum bucket to wash, let's see what happens.
Anastasia
Quote: tanya1962

Now I put the aluminum bucket to wash, let's see what happens.

Somehow it seems to me that nothing terrible will happen with the ladle at all, after all, I am washing Teflon pans with an aluminum bottom - and everything is in order - nothing happens to them. But in meat grinders it is not even aluminum, but this shiny dusting, now it turns black.
Lika
Quote: Hairpin

And I’m my non-stick stuff there ...
And he feels great In the company with him, silicone molds are also
Quote: tanya1962

Now I put the aluminum bucket to wash, let's see what happens.
It will wash off and become lighter. The meat grinder, like everyone else, has darkened for the very first time after the PPM and that's it. It's mine anyway. But Soviet aluminum tolerates PPM very well. From the dacha, I also bring Soviet covers to the wash 2-3 times per season.
sazalexter
Anastasia The meat grinder is modern, not pure aluminum, for sure, it is too soft for these purposes, rather Silumin alloy
Tanyusha
In general, the ladle was washed perfectly and did not even darken, you will have to try the old meat grinder.
Pogremushka
Lika, how do you continue to wash the meat grinder in the PMM ?! I was afraid of the prospect of manually washing this blackness again, it smudged like crazy. And what, this does not happen with her anymore? I'll go start some part of it, see what happens.
Lika
I did not smear anything and does not smear, it just darkened, with such a film and that's it. Whatever it scrolls in it, it does not change color and products do not stain. I have a Brown meat grinder.
Zigor
I washed the old alum several times. pans. They stink of sweat when frying and a black coating that gets dirty. Now not mine. Alum. sometimes my pots are covered with stains that do not get dirty, and each time the stains are different in other places. Beautiful knives, handles with some kind of shiny coating, spogan. Alum. the coffee maker has gone from shiny to matte forever.
Boo Boo
Today I watched some kind of program on STS. An experiment was conducted there. The fish was wrapped in foil, then put in an airtight bag with a fastener and put in the dishwasher along with the dishes. The dishes were washed, the fish was cooked. Do you think this is real or not? Of course, I'm not going to cook in the dishwasher, it's just interesting.
Hairpin
Boo Boo! Well, what are you economical! I won't tell my husband anything. And then after your idea to use the lid from the airfryer as a heating pad, I spent a long time with it, it was not enough for him to put fish in the dishwasher for me!
zeta
I'll tell you about my experience ...

I have a slotted spoon (spoon with holes) made of "lumin". She became so light, but after n-th number of washes, we noticed that she became very thin, now we stopped washing it in the PMM. Knives are not recommended to be washed due to the fact that they quickly become blunt, just like a meat grinder knife. But if ordinary knives can be sharpened, and when they are completely sharpened, then new ones can be bought, then finding knives for a meat grinder is not a trivial task, at least not for everyone ...

In short, RTFM (you need to read the instructions), although it is unfashionable
Svetik_
And I started to take out all my dishes, washed almost everything ... well, I said so, but I got to the pans, pots, the first to go were glasses, glasses, cups, saucers, etc. ... in short, the dishes, there were no complaints, but when I was already pushing the Tefalev frying pan and the glass lid with the pots, then after washing I noticed that the glass cracked (well, I myself am to blame, I put it on the dirty dishes, and there is 70C), so it burst. .. it later I already realized that she was a kirdyk. The Tefalevskaya frying pan became so light on the outside, I really hadn't fried in it yet ...... because the lid needs to be bought, the aluminum dishes were washed, but I did not notice ... that something began to get dirty ... either a frying pan or dishes. But basically everything turned out well, everything is clean and dry. The rinse aid was Somat. I started to drive the car two or three times until I wash everything
So, finally, I can see the finish line with repairs, I'm already washing all the kitchen utensils ... and it's really cool when you have a full-size machine. But the question is, what to do then, when I wash everything ??? Drive half empty ???
Girls, boys, how are you ???
Lika
Quote: Svetik_

but when I was already stuffing a Tefalev frying pan and a glass lid with pots, then after washing I noticed that the glass cracked (well, it’s my own fault, I put it on dirty dishes, and there is 70C), so it burst ..
It is unlikely that the lid from the pan will burst from 70 degrees, how can it be used when cooking? But the frying pan itself does not seem to be recommended to be washed in the PMM because of the coating.
Anastasia
Quote: Svetik_

and why then burst ???

Light, as they say here, the ways are inscrutable. It happens that the glass breaks as if it were not because of something — my glass cutting board broke — for no apparent reason — into tiny pieces — I did not understand why. I bought another one already.
Svetik_
Maybe so ...but before that I threw out two more small dishes, well, the truth is the dishwasher is not to blame, there were just cracks ... I took it and threw it away, but the ambush turned out with the lid
Boo Boo
Quote: Hairpin

Boo Boo! Well, what are you economical! I won't tell my husband anything. And then, after your idea to use the lid from the airfryer as a heating pad, I fiddled with it for a long time, it was still not enough for him to put the fish in the dishwasher for me!
Well, it's not convenient, you wash the dishes and cook at the same time
Lika
Quote: BooBoo

Well, it's not convenient, you wash the dishes and cook at the same time
And spread a couple of kitchen towels on top of the dishes and fish, arrange the laundry.

Seriously though, I actually wash the table cloth in there 2 times a week. The material is like a very thin sponge. It is small, I hang it on the edge of the upper basket from the side of the door.
Hairpin
And my cones for the tubes began to darken. Actually, the color is not important to me, so I continue to wash in the PM. Probably, they also have something aluminum ...
Hope
Thin glass glasses burst several times. You hear cotton, look into the dishwasher, and there are fragments. But my daughter still continues to wash them there. Those that have withstood a couple of washes will last a long time. The temperature was low, 35 degrees.
Boo Boo
I have written in the instructions, do not wash the rags. Apparently many do this. I should try it too.
zeta
I think that the dishes will burst if there are already some imperceptible cracks.

Quote: BooBoo

I have written in the instructions, do not wash the rags. Apparently many do this. I should try it too.

What if the rags fall and the drain is blocked?
Lika
Quote: zeta

What if the rags fall and the drain is blocked?
There will be a disaster. I have a small rag a little more than a palm, spongy and there is nowhere for it to fall, it will not reach the bottom, it will get stuck. Therefore, I wash it there.
Boo Boo
Apparently you need to use clothespins.
By the way, I somehow found a whole mountain of dirty clothespins at the dacha, washed them in the dishwasher.
zeta
Quote: BooBoo

Apparently you need to use clothespins.
By the way, I somehow found a whole mountain of dirty clothespins at the dacha, washed them in the dishwasher.

Obviously, I'm not 100% using PMM ...
Panevg1943
Quote: Svetik_

But the question is, what to do then, when I wash everything ??? Drive half empty ???
Girls, boys, how are you ???
During the day, I put all the dirty dishes in the PMM, and after 21 hours (night tariff of the electric / meter) I turn it on. If I don't go to bed yet, then after the end signal I turn it off, or even in the morning I do it.
By the way, for those who have water meters: PMM spends 22 liters of water at full load. This is a saving, because to so much water when washing such the amount of dishes from the tap is not enough.
Svetik_
Panevg1943 you need to master other programs. I have not tried washing on a short program yet, and glass separately, only on the Auto program and for heavily soiled dishes
In my opinion, there are always cups and plates and spoons, mine are generally too lazy to wash everything, for one load I will always find something
When we already live there permanently, I will try to turn it on for the night, but the very fact is that they turn off the water both cold and hot
Lika
Quote: BooBoo

Apparently you need to use clothespins.
By the way, I somehow found a whole mountain of dirty clothespins at the dacha, washed them in the dishwasher.
Plastic pots for seedlings, after winter storage on the balcony
Boo Boo
And here I was going to wash the stainless steel shelves from the bathroom and toilet. It is only necessary to force the husband to unscrew everything, of course we ourselves can, but we will pretend that we do not know how.
dopleta
Quote: Panevg1943

During the day, I put all the dirty dishes in the PMM, and after 21 hours (night tariff of the electric / meter) I turn it on.
Panevg1943, Are you sure that your night tariff is valid from 9 pm? We've only had 23.
zeta
Quote: Panevg1943

During the day, I put all the dirty dishes in the PMM, and after 21 hours (night tariff of the electric / meter) I turn it on.

Doesn't it grow mold in a day? I once tried to put the dishes in the PMM, and by the evening I got a smell and "look" Now I just put them in the sink.But it is recruiting quickly, there are four of us, and if guests also come ...
Boo Boo
Quote: zeta

Doesn't it grow mold in a day? I once tried to put the dishes in the PMM, and by the evening I got a smell and "look" Now I just put them in the sink. But it is recruiting quickly, there are four of us, and if guests also come ...
No, it doesn't overgrow. I always do that. If it costs more than a day, then of course the smell appears. It is important to close the door tightly, otherwise food leftovers dry out and wash out worse.
Lika
Quote: BooBoo

It is important to close the door tightly, otherwise food leftovers dry out and wash out worse.
Quote: zeta

Doesn't it grow mold in a day? I once tried to put the dishes in the PMM, and by the evening I got a smell and a "look"
The door, of course, must be closed. Even after lunch, in the late afternoon, I start the rinsing program (8 minutes with cold water) and there is no smell or drying of the residues to the night wash.
Panevg1943
Quote: dopleta

Panevg1943, Are you sure that your night tariff is valid from 9 pm? We've only had 23.
Until 2008, our night tariff was from 23 to 7 in the morning, and then (at least in the Moscow region) this range was expanded from 21 to 8 in the morning. The counter had to be reprogrammed.
anna
Tell me, can cupronickel cutlery be washed in PMM?
Tanyusha
Quote: anna

Tell me, can cupronickel cutlery be washed in PMM?
Better not to darken cupronickel.
Panevg1943
Quote: anna

Tell me, can cupronickel cutlery be washed in PMM?
I wash all the time. It sometimes darkens a little, but not always. True, cupronickel darkens, even if it is not used, just like silver. There is a medium for cleaning cupronickel in the form of paste and napkins. Once a month or two I put on the shine.
Hairpin
In a parallel Temko Anastasia took the position that the multicooker bowl can be washed in the PM. And I got a clear feeling that the bowls from the multicooker and the bread machine cannot be washed in the PM. Moreover it seems to methat I read the reviews that after washing in the PM, the bowl cover cracked and fell off.

Does anyone else wash the multicooker bowl in the PM? Maybe everyone is already washing, except me ...

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