Edera
I want to get myself a new vacuum cleaner from my husband for the new year. The old one breathes completely. Dust sucks up poorly and the brush is already worn out. I want a detergent. But now there are so many brands and models that their eyes run up. which one is better to choose so as not to goofy? What is better to pay attention to? Who understands tell me.
Levreta
I would recommend Thomas. At the very same house. I am quite happy with everything. Of course, you must remember that a washing vacuum cleaner is different from ordinary dry ones, and you need to use it in a special way. It must be washed and dried after every cleaning. And then it will serve you for a long time and will delight you with its cleanliness. Of course, look at the attachments that come with the kit. Some models are specially designed for parquet, others are more suitable for cleaning carpets and so on.
Edera
Well, I heard that they need to be washed and dried after cleaning. So it's natural and it doesn't scare me at all. But the nozzles ... I think I need to take something with a turbo brush, since I have carpets.
vorobyshek
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I would recommend Thomas. At the very same house. I am quite happy with everything. Of course, you must remember that a washing vacuum cleaner is different from ordinary dry ones, and you need to use it in a special way. It must be washed and dried after every cleaning. And then it will serve you for a long time and will delight you with its cleanliness. Of course, look at the attachments that come with the kit. Some models are specially designed for parquet flooring, others are more suitable for cleaning carpets, etc.
Isn't it heavy? They told me that with my 45 kg I would have to suffer with him ...
Levreta
It is heavy, of course, like all washing vacuum cleaners, but you don't have to carry it on you at all?)) There are convenient wheels on which it moves perfectly. This is a minor nuance, which is more than covered by the quality of cleaning.
Innochka82
And I have a ZELMER 919.0 ST washing vacuum cleaner. It is "three in one" - you can use an aquafilter, you can put a regular bag, and of course wash it (there are two nozzles for washing). There is a turbo brush and a bunch of different ones. Powerful and easy to clean, I can't get enough of it. And if you order from Poland through the Ukrainian online store (delivery within a week), you get half the price than in regular stores. And then I first bought it in Eldorado for 2600, and the next day on the internet I found it for 1300, although I didn't have time to use it, I was able to return it and ordered from Poland
igorechek
I've also primed a washing vacuum cleaner. After feeling and touching many models in stores. I came to the conclusion that for EASY CARE AND COMPACTNESS, it is better to take Karcher 4002, 5100 or even better 6100.
Levreta
Karcher I would not recommend. It’s too simple. And it costs a little cheaper than Thomas. Add a little and buy the same Twin. Thomas, in my opinion, is generally the best among the detergents. Although I will not say bad things about other brands, I just like Thomas more.
Edera
I also watched Karkhera and Vaks. Thomas liked it better. As it looks more serious, and the reviews about them are better. Probably I will dwell on it. Only now the model would be determined)).
igorechek
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Karcher I would not recommend. It’s too simple. And it costs a little cheaper than Thomas. Add a little and buy the same Twin. Thomas, in my opinion, is generally the best among the detergents. Although I will not say bad things about other brands, I just like Thomas more.
So that's why I stopped at Karcher. It is simple to the point of impossibility and that is why it is the least time consuming to care for. I watched a video about him and analyzed it in a store with a consultant.Basically, I poured water into one container and drained it out of another after cleaning. All ! Relatively lightweight and the dimensions go up, and this is important.
In the first models there were some doubts about the stability, and in the latter, this has been eliminated. I liked the 6.100 the most and it is tilt-resistant. You can also do dry cleaning. But I often use a compact electric broom for quick cleaning.
Levreta
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So that's why I stopped at Karcher. It is simple to the point of impossibility and that is why it is the least time consuming to care for. I watched a video about him and analyzed it in a store with a consultant. Basically, I poured water into one container and drained it out of another after cleaning. All ! Relatively lightweight and dimensions go up, and this is important.
In the first models there were some doubts about the stability, and in the latter, this has been eliminated. I liked the 6.100 the most and it is tilt-resistant. You can also do dry cleaning. But I often use a compact electric broom for quick cleaning.
Any detergent is the same in service. I drained the water and poured a new one. The technology is the same. That Karcher, that Thomas, that Wax. In addition, as I understand it, you bought yourself a Karcher 6100. This model is only for dry cleaning and with a bag. Aquafilter is not there. What can be poured and poured there? We compare dry and detergent, or with an aquafilter. To be honest, I do not understand what you mean.
igorechek
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Any detergent is the same in service. I poured water and poured new The technology is the same. That Karcher, that Thomas, that Wax. In addition, as I understand it, you bought yourself a Karcher 6100. This model is only for dry cleaning and with a bag. Aquafilter is not there. What can be poured and poured there? We compare dry and detergent, or with an aquafilter. To be honest, I do not understand what you mean.
I explain the Karcher SE 6.100 vacuum cleaner is a washing vacuum cleaner with the possibility of dry cleaning. Do not mislead people.
Sorry, I'm telling the truth, for the vast majority of women, the device of technology is a dark forest. If you want, do not be too lazy to delve into the device of the Karcher and Thomas vacuum cleaners with your own hands before saying that they are set up in the same way. The embodiment of the idea is technically different. Thomas complicated the idea and therefore it is precisely in the ease of leaving that he loses to Karcher.
Well, or more simply, just look at the reviews (not just oh how good, but thoughtful) or even better, watch the post-harvest service videos from the users themselves. The difference is significant. After Thomas, you need to wash him in the bathroom and then the bath itself. I am not against it, but the buyer must know what he will actually face after the purchase. I have a good example - my friend's purchase of Thomas.
Annutka
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Isn't it heavy? They told me that with my 45 kg I would have to suffer with him ...

Heavy and very bulky (I'm talking about Thomas). At first they used it often, but now on holidays. The quality of the cleaning is very good, but take so much with it ....
igorechek
Yes, and it is also. For a man, weight is not very important, but for a woman it is one of the most important selection criteria.
Karcher's weight is 7 kg, and for Thomas usually 9-10.5 kg.
And Thomas is bigger. for storage, more indicators of width x depth are important. And they are much smaller in Karcher's 37 x 29 cm versus approximately 49-54 x 35 cm.The difference is more than 1.5 times.
Annutka
Yes, storage is also an important point, but Thomas is still very huge.
Levreta
Well, it is unnecessary only to exaggerate. It's huge. In the photo you will compare the Karcher 6100 and Thomas Vestfalia. I would have doubted that more. Karcher is easier for only one reason. Lack of aquafilter. The description is clearly written. Dust collector bag. Now take Thomas 9kg with aqua and Karcher 7kg with bag. Which is heavier? Bag vacuum cleaners are not constant in their suction power. It falls as the bag fills. And you dear igorechek write that Karcher is easier to use. Sack is easier than aqua, of course. I'll tell you what's even easier. Buy a cheap dry one. he also has a bag and weighs even lighter. I would like to see how he will be cleaning, I think for any normal housewife this is more important, and not at all weight.Well, or then the hostess is lazy.
Edera
I bought myself Thomas Parkett Prestige. I tried to clean it with wet cleaning once. The vacuum cleaner washes well. If you do not rush and thoroughly carry out general cleaning, then there will be no problems. He rides on wheels. It is very convenient, you do not need to carry it on yourself. I would not say that he creates problems for the hostesses, rather the opposite.
Lala
I also shoveled a bunch of reviews before buying a vacuum cleaner. Therefore, I bought Zelmer, he is my favorite, I have been using it for 1.5 years, I have never regretted it. Most importantly, it is very convenient to disassemble and assemble after cleaning.
Edera
Yes, in principle, a lot of horror has been written about washing vacuum cleaners. In fact, not everything is so scary. Anyone can figure it out and get used to it. But their cleaning is great.
Levreta
I figured it out very quickly. There is nothing complicated there. No need to launch a spaceship into space)). Everything is done for people. I opened the lid, inside the aqua box. It's simple.
igorechek
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In the photo you will compare the Karcher 6100 and Thomas Vestfalia. I would have doubted that more. Karcher is easier for only one reason. Lack of aquafilter. The description is clearly written. Dust collector bag. Now take Thomas 9kg with aqua and Karcher 7kg with bag. Which is heavier? Bag vacuum cleaners are not constant in their suction power. It falls as the bag fills. And you dear igorechek write that Karcher is easier to use. Sack is easier than aqua, of course. I'll tell you what's even easier. Buy a cheap dry one. he also has a bag and weighs even lighter.
Why are you misleading people. I say it again - the Karcher SE 6.100 vacuum cleaner is exactly washing with add. dry cleaning function. How do you look at the descriptions? Search not just 6100, but SE /
What does Karcher have to do with dry cleaning?
And how can you determine the dimensions from the photo? This is something new. I determined the dimensions by the characteristics of LxWxH and having looked and felt in stores. The only way.
And the fact that ease of maintenance is of great importance for a vacuum cleaner - well, I won't even argue about that. And it is the washing Karcher that is much easier than Thomas in this.
Natalyushka
I can recommend Bissell, I chose a vacuum cleaner for a very long time, and when I came to the store, the consultant simply offered to assemble and disassemble several models from different manufacturers and the choice immediately became obvious
Levreta
Quote: igorechek

Why are you misleading people. I say it again - the Karcher SE 6.100 vacuum cleaner is exactly washing with add. dry cleaning function. How do you look at the descriptions? Search not just 6100, but SE /
What does Karcher have to do with dry cleaning?
And how can you determine the dimensions from the photo? This is something new. I determined the dimensions by the characteristics of LxWxH and having looked and felt in stores. The only way.
And the fact that ease of maintenance is of great importance for a vacuum cleaner - well, I won't even argue about that. And it is the washing Karcher that is much easier than Thomas in this.
I apologize for the first time I really made a mistake and apparently entered the wrong model of the vacuum cleaner. Already looked that he was washing with add. dry cleaning function. Ease of maintenance is really important for a vacuum cleaner, but not the main thing. Not everyone thinks like you. Many other criteria are important. And then I can't say that it is very complicated in circulation. All this is quite possible to put up with. The fact that Karcher is simpler than Thomas is your opinion with which I will not argue. All the same, everyone has their own opinion. There will be people besides me who will not agree with you.
igorechek
I totally agree. I didn’t say that the same Thomas is a bad vacuum cleaner. He cleans well (I know because the owner shares his experience with me, my good friend). But he thought it took less time to look after him. That is the question. The buyer should know everything in advance when buying. And accordingly, choose what is more important to him. There are no complaints about the quality of floor cleaning and exhaust air.
Nowadays there are a lot of advertising lures for any technique. Everything on the screen is so simple and good, and after buying a product, people are faced with some moments that no one spoke about.
Olgushechka81
I have been using the Bissel washing vacuum cleaner for about 3 years, it is quite easy to use, it is not difficult to wash it after each cleaning. A bit heavy, but you don't have to carry it, the wheels are large. There are a lot of attachments.
Levreta
Probably so with any washing vacuum cleaner. Yes, I got used to my Thomas too at first. and what to do, there were no detergents before. Previously, vacuum cleaners were generally different. And there is not only a washing, but also an aquafilter. But I figured it out. They roll on wheels really easily. But sellers in stores, of course, should tell more about the operation of the vacuum cleaner. But they just don't know how they are in everyday life, because they only sell them.
Yanzhina
Prompt a washing vacuum cleaner. you need to clean a small apartment, floor tiles, linoleum, no carpets, cleaning 1-2 times a day
Ninelle
I'll put in my five kopecks, we had Selmer just with an aquafilter, I wanted a washing one, my husband found a Karcher washing steam vacuum cleaner in the internet, we thought and read it. and bought. and very satisfied. Washes with steam, not detergents. The floor is PERFECTLY clean. conducted an experiment, washed the floor with super detergents with handles, then ran it along the floor with a white napkin - there are traces. But after a couple, sterile. We washed everything for them, and tile, and porcelain stoneware and laminate and linoleum, and windows (and in winter, on a loggia, it is difficult to get to one window with handles), it turns out perfectly. I use the ferry to clean children's soft toys. Two hand-woven carpets with high pile cleans perfectly. Once there were guests and they poured the cream on the carpet, the steam cleaner cleaned up perfectly. Upholstered furniture, a fur coat after summer conservation, etc. In addition, we bought a turbo brush, the only thing, it is only for dry cleaning. Yes, it is necessary to wash it, and moreover, immediately after cleaning, in no case should you leave it for later, the smell will remain. Washes his husband, not for long. In general, I am very happy. Yes, our apartment is tiny, but we also found a place and I think that it is better than a regular vacuum cleaner, precisely because it really cleans and washes and purifies the air at the same time. And in a small apartment, when a family of three lives there, with a bunch of clothes, toys, etc., is generally necessary. But this is just my opinion and experience.
Yanzhina
Ninelle, but tell me the model? and do I need to vacuum separately before washing? We have dog hair.
Bijou
Quote: Yanzhina
and do I need to vacuum separately before washing? We have dog hair.
Vacuum first before wet cleaning. always... In front of any washing vacuum cleaner, alas. ((
Levreta
Quote: Yanzhina

Prompt a washing vacuum cleaner. you need to clean a small apartment, floor tiles, linoleum, no carpets, cleaning 1-2 times a day
Take a look at Thomas. They have a large lineup. Based on your wishes, I recommend Twin or Vestfalia.
Yanzhina
I heard about Tomas that they are uncomfortable in leaving, it takes a lot of time to wash. I wish that the care of the vacuum cleaner itself did not take much time
Ninelle
Quote: Yanzhina

Ninelle, but tell me the model? and do I need to vacuum separately before washing? We have dog hair.
Model Karcher SV 1902, vacuuming anyway is better before wet cleaning. If you are a dog, be sure to buy a turbo brush. There is also DeLongy, a steam vacuum cleaner, it is half the price of Karcher, but I was dissuaded from buying it. It is heavier, and Karcher, this is specifically a vacuum cleaner and harvesting equipment, they ate an elephant, a hippopotamus and a crocodile on this.
Catwoman
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Take a look at Thomas. They have a large lineup. Based on your wishes, I recommend Twin or Vestfalia.

Only don't take Thomas, it's terribly heavy and takes a long time to wash. I know from my own experience. I replaced it with Karcher, now I'm happy.
Ninelle
Quote: Catwoman
Only don't take Thomas, it's terribly heavy and takes a long time to wash. I know from my own experience. I replaced it with Karcher, now I'm happy.
For some reason we didn't consider the Thomas at all.
igorechek
Because they are mainly sold in branded stores and shops and rarely or never come across in sight when going to hardware stores.
And the foolish consultants who change in hardware stores after 2-3 months do not really know anything about technology ... And they cannot tell you.
Ninelle
In the salons Karkhera are expensive, we examined it in the salon, tried our model and the older one, and bought it via the Internet, it turned out to be much cheaper, the guarantee is the same. Take in the same place. They have only Italian assembly. Although we were rubbed in several stores that THEY HAVE A NON-METALLIC ASSEMBLY, it turned out to be checked - Italy. Here. I have an "acquaintance" in the Internet shop, I bought a lot of things from them. So he just, in the complete absence of Karcher at that moment, dissuaded me from DeLonga, who they had. The guy is excellent adequate. Really he will tell and advise everything.
igorechek
Consultants from good and specialized online stores and super, (hyper) retail markets make a big difference, more often than not.
People work in retail stores for a very short time, often without interest, including without personal interest, it is better and deeper to get to know the technology itself. What will a 20-25 year old boy tell you about a vacuum cleaner? He does not need him for a hundred years and he will not read the technical characteristics and disassemble it. He would have a computer and a tablet ...
About Karcher, I say that it has a principle of ease of maintenance.
And the Italian or German assembly is solely for personal comfort. If a person sits at a potter's wheel or makes a kladenets sword, then it depends on him. And also - this is a conveyor with ready-made spare parts. There is no need to think.
Matanya
Hello everyone, I also got confused with a washing vacuum cleaner ...
I read the whole Temko and went to look at the models in the internet about Thomas PARKETT PRESTIGE XT, only positive reviews, but about Karcher SV 1902, they say that something is not enough positive .... For the price they are almost the same, what to do? Which one to take? In Karcher SV 1902, steam cleaning pleases, but confuses what they write about ...
igorechek
So don't be confused. Karcher 1902 is a STEAM CLEANER, not a washing one. The difference is fundamental. He cleans more perfectly, but his device is much more complex. And women find it more difficult to understand some of the details of his work. In addition to malfunctions, improper operation occurs.
Steam vacuum cleaners are much more complicated in design than just washing. The number of failures in washing machines with dryers is also higher than in washing machines.
Even Zepter steam vacuum cleaners, which are much more expensive than Karcher, have many complaints.
Take Karcher Washer
Ninelle
Quote: Matanya

about Thomas PARKETT PRESTIGE XT there are only positive reviews, but about Karcher SV 1902, they say that they are not enough positive .... For the price they are almost the same, what to do? Which one to take? In Karcher SV 1902, steam cleaning pleases, but confuses what they write about it .....
Allow me a little distraction from the topic? Once we went to a Japanese restaurant for a tea ceremony. The master of the tea ceremony came across an excellent, Odessa-Essentuki "Japanese" spill, but he knew the topic well. And he taught us to make tea CORRECTLY. So, the main idea that I got is that the main thing in the tea ceremony is the teapot in which the tea is brewed. In addition to the fact that it must be made of natural materials, so a person, for himself, must choose it for himself, without listening to anyone's advice, in color and shape. And the kettle should, so to speak, "smile" at him. That is, he should be to your liking.
What am I doing? It seems to me that any thing, technique, should "smile" at you, and what they write in the reviews ... I also read them, and the only thing that coincided about Karcher was that the seals on the steam supply pipes must be changed periodically. And so it is banal, but the fences and in the elevators, you know how much they write ?! The choice is yours.
Kesha has become a full-fledged resident of our small apartment.
Levreta
Quote: Yanzhina

I heard about Tomas that they are uncomfortable in leaving, it takes a lot of time to wash. I wish that the care of the vacuum cleaner itself did not take much time
You have not heard about the Thomas, but about all the washing machines. Take any brand, all bulky and require personal care.Tomas, by the way, is one of the most immense among washing machines)
Levreta
Quote: Matanya

Hello everyone, I also got confused with a washing vacuum cleaner ...
I read the whole Temko and went to look at the models in the internet about Thomas PARKETT PRESTIGE XT, only positive reviews, but about Karcher SV 1902, they say that something is not enough positive .... For the price they are almost the same, what to do? Which one to take? In Karcher SV 1902, steam cleaning pleases, but confuses what they write about it .....
Parquet prestige is a new model, it has recently appeared on sale. Excellent German SUV. Also collected in Germany. I don't know about Karcher, Thomas has a plant only in Germany.
Edera
Designed specifically for cleaning parquet and laminate flooring. He has a very good Aqua Stealth attachment. And does not pour water, the residual moisture is only 0.4%. My friend bought a Samsung SW17H90. There, during wet cleaning, half of the water just remains on the floor.
Nino4ka
I advise you to take ZELMER ZVC 752 STUA)
with him for 2 years
Very powerful (mostly I vacuum in "eco" mode, I rarely turn on the maximum), easy to disassemble and wash, a lot of attachments. but the detergent supply tank is leaking and we cannot do anything about it.
Byaka zakalyaka
We chose Thomas. After the excitement of a new thing passed, this bandura began to strain. For a long time, any cleaning turns into a general cleaning for labor costs, and after all, all that was needed was to collect crumbs for the child. Over the past two years, I probably didn’t get it from the closet. It is much more convenient to have an ordinary vacuum cleaner, which in 5 minutes walked around the apartment with a rag for another 5 minutes and forgot about cleaning. The detergent should only be washed for 5 minutes, and then it must be left open to dry and only then collected and hidden, in short, dancing around it takes longer than the cleaning itself.
Svetka
I have Thomas TT for about 9 years, to be honest, this is my favorite assistant! It is easy to use, assemble and disassemble it quickly. After wet cleaning, I put the box and immediately install the aquafilter for dry cleaning, and put it in storage. She also quickly rinsed the insert for wet cleaning with water, shook it off, and into the pantry. No unnecessary body movements. I do not dry anything separately and do not ventilate at all, there are no unnecessary odors in it.
For all the time, I only revealed two shortcomings, namely:
The hose on the body does not rotate 180 degrees, (I understand that this is a design, but I still want to)
And a small amount of clean water can be poured in at a time. T. there is one fill you can wash an area of ​​about 18 sq. M.
But maybe I'm finding fault, because there is no perfection
The quality of cleaning is beyond praise, the laminate looks like it should, without streaks, the floors just sparkle and not a single hair and wool (I have two very hairy cats)
And with a clear conscience, I recommend this dust to all doubters, but probably a more modern model. By the way, I haven't changed any brushes or hoses yet. Only a couple of times a happy filter.
I take it out once or twice a week, and for every day it is very convenient to use an electric broom.
Edera
Quote: Byaka zakalyaka

We chose Thomas. After the excitement of a new thing passed, this bandura began to strain. For a long time, any cleaning turns into a general cleaning for labor costs, and after all, all that was needed was to collect crumbs for the child. Over the past two years, I probably didn’t get it from the closet. It is much more convenient to have an ordinary vacuum cleaner, which in 5 minutes walked around the apartment with a rag for another 5 minutes and forgot about cleaning. The detergent should only be washed for 5 minutes, and then it must be left open to dry and only then collected and hidden, in short, dancing around it takes longer than the cleaning itself.
So why did you buy it then?)) This is an ash tree stump, everyone understands that Thomas is a specific product, but you show me a detergent that will not be heavy. They are all like that. Tomas still have divine weight. Some brands are even heavier. And then if you collect the crumbs after the child, running the detergent at my minimum is strange.
Edera
Quote: Svetka

And a small amount of clean water can be poured in at a time. T. there is one fill you can wash an area of ​​about 18 sq. M.
But maybe I'm finding fault, because there is no perfection
In the new models, the amount of water and the tanks themselves are narrower. I wash my entire apartment only once, but I have three rubles. What is your Thomas model?
Svetka
I have TT

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