antonkv
Hello! I dream of baking sourdough bread at home and now, for three weeks now, I've been rushing about in search of the best option for a bread machine. I think the Delonghi 125s will do just fine with its ability to edit any built-in program. But I still doubt this and that this c / c bakes bread qualitatively no worse than other c / c. Who can answer something definite to such a question, I will be very grateful!
Luke
Anton, let's think logically!
What is the main problem with sourdough bread? That's right: let the test come up. Sourdough acts many times slower than yeast, the more "fast" industrial. And in this sense, the possibility of programming is a godsend!

One thing: is it possible to arbitrarily set the duration of the baking program there, or are changes possible only within the program itself?

Many do how? For example, they put 2 programs in a row: Dough, and immediately after the end - for example, "Basic". In total, about 7 hours of fermentation is obtained. Already comparable ...

For sourdough bread to rise well - it needs 8 hours (good). If the leaven is good, the old generation will manage it in 6 hours. IMHO. Or maybe then the program in Panas 253 "French bread" will do - without yeast, and immediately mix at least slightly the leaven and water and flour, so that the leaven starts working immediately, without standing ...

This is me, I think ...
serg
[One thing: is it possible to set the duration of the baking program at random there
Luke
Then - a-f-and-g-e-t-b! You need to take.
Since I have already filled everything with these bread makers, I will wait for responses from other bold ones!

To be honest, the "sucks" half an hour and a half in Panas before the start of the program makes me mad. And nothing can be done.

At 303 Hitachi, I did that sometimes. When I put the sourdough dough, I included the main program. I waited until it went to baking, turned off the HP and turned it on again. Now until the end of the process.

And in Panas, when I think that I'll turn it on again, and it will stand again .... Ugh on you again!

And Delongy is the head! ...

PS: Brothers, tell us what happened? ...
serg
So far I have only baked two breads, one according to the recipe from the manual, the second from this forum - SAPetrovich posted his program (while setting it up, I played with the temperature / time at different stages). Everything worked out, no condensation, no flour on the walls. Since the recipes are the simplest, the bread turned out to be like bread, I won't say that the family members took a chunk away from each other ... At the same time, I never bought such bread in the store, and there were a lot of varieties. I'll try the next bread with additives, I want to bake rye, but now I don't know where to get the sourdough and what else is there. Delongy's recipe contains rye, but everything is somehow very simple in it, there is a doubt about getting good quality.
And as for the experience in programming - here on the forum at least two "programmers" have already shared recipes / programs, like without complaints about the stove.
India
Resuming the topic, I want to choose a sourdough bread oven.
I choose between Panasonic 253 (255) and Delongy 125.
Panasonic seems to be the most common, many proven recipes. And in Delongy there is the possibility of programming, only for me, as a novice baker, is there any benefit from this.
And in general, the question is, bread with sourdoughs is more likely to be baked in the oven than in bread makers?
Owners of Delongy, please share your results, especially newbies.
Penguin
There are many ways to get sourdough bread in the DeLonghi oven. The easiest way is to get the dough in "pizza" or "dough" mode in the evening and bake in the "oven" mode in the morning.You can get the dough in the above modes, select the mode of plain bread, French, etc., remove 1 and 2 mixes, increase the rise time, exclude fraud - after all, the oven has a programming mode. Or just knead the dough, wait until it rises and bake in the oven. The older the leaven, the faster the dough rises. The bread is delicious.
Crypto
So I decided to buy a bread maker. Naturally, I sat and climbed the forum. Naturally, I could not finally decide. So far, I'm leaning towards the DeLonghi 125, but I'm not sure. Since the users of these stoves did not appear in the topic about shortcomings.
Plus I couldn't find if she makes rye bread. And in general I did not find exactly which 13 modes it has.
Can you help?
Lissa
You open the section manufacturers - DeLonghi - choose 125 instructions - pages 49-51
Crypto
I couldn't find rye bread there. At least in this way. Does this mean that it is not in the programs or that it is called in some other way?
But there is wholemeal bread. Isn't it the same?
Celestine
Quote: Crypto

I couldn't find rye bread there. At least in this way. Does this mean that it is not in the programs or that it is called in some other way?
But there is wholemeal bread. Isn't it the same?

No, it is not the same. In general, open the "recipes" section and go ahead, try any recipe for rye bread for health, before that it will not be superfluous to read in the basics about the specifics of this baking about Admin and ... go for it, everything is described in detail for any oven.
Elena Bo
There is a recipe on page 25
Wholemeal rye bread
Black bread
Probably rye is supposed to bake in mode (4) Integrale / Wholemeal bread
Furniture
there is a mode of gluten-free bread, but for some reason the recipes there are only with rice flour of different integrity. I suspect that it will also come off rye, but so far I have not risked it. Today was the first experience - I threw 1 glass of rye flour instead of white into the milk mode, 1 mode. The result is interesting
Crypto
And he already is, the result?
Furniture
there is, the croaker has already eaten to taste like roofing felts with bran, roofing felts approaching gray (and I like gray, it is much tastier than white)
Crypto
And I chose. Today I went to Sunrise, ordered. Pick up tomorrow, and then wait another two weeks. I'll take you home as a gift!
DeLonghi 125S
Furniture
and how much? I bought it for 4 thousand
Crypto
3800. So you don't have to get upset!
Alen delonghi
I dug up some interesting information: it turns out that the automatic bakery was formerly called Eureka 11 and was supplied exclusively to the USA. It was invented by the company Ariete, which was known for incredibly innovative bread makers. Several years ago, these ovens could simultaneously bake 2 loaves of bread at the same time, and according to different recipes, they were programmable and featured a design developed by the design firms Giugiaro and Pininfarina. Eureka 11 has become the TOP model in the range of bread makers and has gained great popularity in Europe and the USA (2nd-9th place, Panasonic 255 - 16-20th place).
Due to the global crisis, an expensive bakery (due to numerous innovations and high-quality materials) was sold together with Ariete to the Kenwood group. And the Kenwood group was immediately bought by the giant Delonghi. The outstanding bakery has become Delonghi's flagship home bakery and has been designated "BDM 125S".
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Furniture
Pininforinu I have already heard this somewhere ... The design of kitchen appliances such as refrigerators, it seems
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Pininforinu I have already heard this somewhere ... The design of kitchen appliances such as refrigerators, it seems
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Arturka
The question is for users, or for those who know: what is the pause between the pre-mix and the main one? There is no data in the instructions. And in the process of programming this pause is not considered. Presumably the feeling that the pre-batch immediately goes into batch.
Arturka
I don’t understand something on the forum are there any real Delonghi 125S users or only virtual ones?
Katish
Quote: Arturka

I don’t understand something on the forum are there any real users of Delonghi 125S or only virtual ones?
I do not know if I am suitable for the role of a user, but rather I am learning to use it.
I will not say anything about the pre-mixing, I did not figure it out.
Just now I cut a freshly baked experiment. With cheese and herbs. She added what they were. For pesto sauce + dried garlic + Italian herbs.
Oh, yes ... I weighed that loaf. Mix from the recipe for 750 gr. And the weight of the loaf = 985 gr. !!!! Almost a kilogram !!!! So it seems to me "where the dog rummaged" - the reason for the light crust and other things. Next time you have to choose a 1 kg program.
Sweet with raisins is scheduled for the morning. So I'll check
LenaV07
Quote: Arturka

I don’t understand something on the forum are there any real Delonghi 125S users or only virtual ones?
Funny question for an internet forum ...

Quote: Arturka

The assumption that the pre-mix immediately turns into a mix.
Your guess is correct ... First, the blade rotates with small stops so that the ingredients mix and the flour does not "dust", and then the kneading itself begins and the blade rotates much faster. There is no pause between these stages.
lesik_l
That's right: there is no pause.
When programming, the modes go one after the other, 2 and 3 elements
Arturka
Thanks for the answers! Understood there is no pause between batches. Just thinking about the programming possibilities. Since there are a lot of C / Ps on the market, but they bake in different ways, that is, the operating modes differ (somewhere there are pauses between mixes, somewhere not, some have 2 proofing, some have 3) I think it makes sense to take the best and try to apply it in Delonghi 125S.
k.alena
Hello, the topic has died out a long time ago, but maybe someone looks in here and can help me. This oven has been with me for a long time, and it suits me completely ... only the bucket has already become very good. And it's not on sale - it's out of production. Maybe someone knows which bucket from other manufacturers can fit? I will be very grateful
sazalexter
Elena, Alas, I did not find buckets similar to DeLonghi BDM125, part No. YF3087, look in services in Ukraine, maybe someone has on the leftovers.
k.alena
They have long been taken out of production ... nowhere else I looked in size, Very close to the buckets Moulinex SS - 186082 and SS-185950, the difference from mine is a couple of mm (both are smaller in length and width, one exactly coincides in height, the second is 2 mm below) how critical can this be when mounted on snaps? Width in general, IMHO, does not affect in any way. And in terms of length ... this is how these latches fold back.In addition, I took off my measurements myself, I'm afraid they may not be entirely accurate
Gaby
Lenochka, I understand, my bucket has the same problem. Subscribe to the topic ... I did not know that I was discontinued. The bucket has already been repaired and warped.
sazalexter
ElenaIf the length is less than 2 mm, it is not scary, the knot of engagement with the agitator is much more important, is this the diameter, the depth of the impeller-hook, that is what you should pay attention to.
k.alena
I called the service, was interested in these buckets ... they said that they themselves tried them on directly into the bread maker and that nothing came up from Kenwood sometime, but they no longer release it either. Sadly, the oven itself is good ...
dj_mase
Quote: k.alena
I have had this oven for a long time, and it suits me completely ... only the bucket has already become very hot.

If still relevant, try to find the nearest company that teflon coated industrial bakery molds. In this way I restored a bucket on Panas 207. I passed a bag of flour (50 kg.) Through myself, there are no traces of use.

In Ukraine, they made me in the Dnieper, it cost about 300 UAH. with shipments by New Mail.
Lucien
I duplicate my own message here: I dance and sing! Today I, a Russian (!), Bought at an English (!) Flea market in Bulgaria (!) This bread maker, completely unused, only heavily poured outside, with a completely new bucket! To say that I am happy is to say nothing. The only one with an English plug is called Brewille.Tomorrow I will conduct tests. And yes, at a ridiculous price - 15 leva, this is less than 600 rubles
Lucien
there she is  All about Delonghi 125S
Gaby
Lyudochka, congratulations on the stove, it's cool! Lucky, definitely. To buy a programmable stove and even so for a cheap price. By the way, it was removed from production, as they wrote here, so that I congratulate you twice.
By the way, everyone who has bread makers liked my bread from Delonga the most, it is so fluffy and tastes great. Although everyone baked according to the same recipe. Surprisingly simple!
Lucien
Gaby, thanks, Vika. I was very pleased with my Delonghi-125, but the bucket became completely useless. And this one is practically the same. Only there is a backlight button, very convenient. And then I used to always use a flashlight to see what was going on inside. Even the wire is longer in it, it's also convenient. But the lid cannot be removed. And okay, not really necessary. And, the spatula in the bucket is not removed yet.

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