Lena
It's time to think about the mixer, but all the right ones are too expensive, the husband will not approve. Therefore, I am considering mixers with hooks, stationary. So far I stopped at Zelmer 481.6 - I don't really believe in brands, I'm not ready to overpay for a name, but this one has good parameters, plus there is still some kind of pendulum movement. True, I saw only on the Internet, how he live - I don't know.
I want to ask those who use a mixer for mixing - how do they interfere, what to look for, what are the limitations?
alyona
: Lena , 350 - power is too small. If confectionery and pastries are your strong point, look for more power - 450-500W.
Lena
he 400. found only 450 more powerful - one, all the others are weaker.
So, the mixer will not pull the dough for bread?
Vanya28
Only professional hand mixers are more powerful, you need to look for catering equipment, but the price of these products will unpleasantly surprise.
Hairpin
Lena, How much does it cost? I, too, look in the direction of the kneader ... I don't seem to be pulling on the combine ... or pulling ... But I have nowhere to knead the dough on dumplings and noodles ...
Lena
Quote: Hairpin

Lena, How much does it cost? I, too, look in the direction of the kneader ... I don't seem to be pulling on the combine ... or pulls ... But I have nowhere to knead the dough on dumplings and noodles ...
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conventional mixer with stand.
Tanyusha
Lena here is a link to the topic of kneading machines, read it, I wrote there and exhibited a photo of my kneader, bought in Metro for 6000 rubles.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=8100.105
Lena
So, can a mixer 400w cope with bread dough or not? what will be the problem? will not pull and burn? will not knead?
otherwise I'm still stirring with a bread maker, but the bucket is almost covered there, and it's inconvenient to conjure with the modes.
Hairpin
Tanya, yours is 6000, and Lenin - 1500 ... In ...
Lena

thanks, I read there, I also looked at the GASTRO QF-347, but did not find it with us
I'll take a look in the subway, but everything changes quickly there.
Lena
Quote: Hairpin

Tanya, yours is 6000, and Lenin - 1500 ... In ...
well, if in principle, then you can even up to $ 150 a machine ... but I did not find anything in this amount. I'll try GASTRO in the subway, but it's not a fact that it is still there
Vanya28
Quote: Hairpin

Lena, How much does it cost? I, too, look in the direction of the kneader ... I don't seem to be pulling on the combine ... or pulls ... But I have nowhere to knead the dough on dumplings and noodles ...

Hairpin, I'll tell you about my dough mixer, if you're interested, of course?
The price without attachments was 5500 rubles.
Designed for 400 grams of flour.
Dough kneading - 5 minutes.
The consistency of the resulting dough is heavy (very steep), 4 eggs, 65 grams each.
It is also simultaneously an electric drive for rolling and cutting dough, when installing attachments, I have a width of 140 mm. (There are longer ones).
Kneader attachments:
1. Rollers for rolling out dough. (I don't remember the price. About 1500-2000 rubles).
The dough made from good flour and eggs can be rolled out without tears into "thin paper" - this is true and not a joke.
2. Noodles cutter for different sizes (I have two).
3. Manual seaming machine with attachments (I have a width of 140 mm, but there is a wider one). You can take a separate electric drive, I did not take it, since the manual rolls the dumplings like a "machine gun".
4. Dumplings for the seaming machine are different,
I have (I don't remember the prices, about 700 - 1200 rubles each).
- Ravioli 2x2cm.
- Rectangular 10x2 cm.
- Small chebureks 10x4 cm.
- Semicircular dumplings 3 cm.
5. Knives for slicing dough layers of fixed width 140 mm.

If the topic helped, I'll post photos.
julifera
Lena, it seems to me that such a mixer is difficult to mix the dough WELL.

Somehow, out of interest, I was kneading dough for Easter - so I will say
- this is heaven and earth - the dough mixed in HP and the dough is long and tediously salted with a mixer.

I've heard reviews here more than once - that the dough is kneaded well with knives

Hairpin
Vanya28!
1. You have a great chance of becoming my third beloved man on the forum!
2. I have a noodle cutter. Titania. I don’t use it. Because there is nothing to knead the dough.
3. Why do I need rollers?
4. Why do I need a seaming machine?

I thought so. That when my combine dies the death of the brave ... Or a mixer ... That is ... That is, I need a mixer with a bowl and a hook-shaped attachment that would knead dough for noodles and dumplings. But what are the other gadgets for me ... I can't even imagine ...

a. All this has already been discussed on the forum, but I missed it. I hardly read the topic about noodles. Because I don’t use it, I don’t use it, because there is nowhere to knead the dough ...
b. can post pictures ...

nut
I saw a hairpin in the Metro quite recently, I don’t remember the price, but not very expensive, I looked at it myself. But as she saw what kind of bandura she decided to refuse, so as not to stay on the street with her
Vanya28
Hairpin, I will show the photos by the weekend, as soon as I take a photo. Be patient.
Why attachments? Roll out the dough of course.
The dough that you get in the kneaders shown on the forum is much lighter (thinner) and very thin to roll it out is very difficult, for this the rolling machine (rollers or rolling pin) is used.
It is pleasant, for example, to get deep-fried fresh cherries (one at a time and without pits) in a "transparent as glass" pleasantly crunchy very thin dough.
Lena
Quote: nut

I saw a hairpin in the Metro quite recently, I don’t remember the price, but not very expensive, I looked at it myself. But as she saw what kind of bandura she decided to refuse, so as not to stay on the street with her
and which metro, where?
nut
Lena Metro is in Moscow
Lena
well, in Kiev, too. that's why I ask - the assortment is different.
Hairpin
Quote: Vanya28

It is pleasant, for example, to get deep-fried fresh cherries (one at a time and without pits) in a "transparent as glass" pleasantly crunchy very thin dough.
Hm ... And this is in what topic? Well, I just catastrophically do not have time ...

But if I already have Titania, I don't need any rollers or a rolling pin? Right?
Vanya28
Quote: Hairpin

Hm ... And this is in what topic? Well, I just catastrophically do not have time ...
My theme, to start or not in demand?
To know.
The topic with rolling dough is here:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=2843.0,
I didn't find a description of the kneader there
Marcato Atlas,
noodle cutters and seamers alone.
But there are forty pages!
Ask if anyone has already posted a photo of the kneader.
I'll post it myself by the weekend.
Hairpin
Yes, I know the topic of noodle cutters. And there is a noodle cutter. I just tried to make the dough once in a bread maker, it didn't work out very well, so I threw the noodle cutter up.

And open the topic! I'm interested (just throw in a link, otherwise I don't always look through new topics). If anything, blame me!
Tanyusha
the nut I have is just Gastro, it is considered a professional technique, therefore it is large, but nothing on the shelf in the closet, it stood up in my wardrobe.
nut
And how is he doing? Does the steep dough knead easily? I feel sorry for my stove, so I make dough for dumplings with my hands
Tanyusha
the nut mixes everything well, only works loudly.
Hairpin
Lena! Do you have a bread maker? !! And then I somehow immediately decided that there is ...
Vanya28
tanya1962, do you have a GASTRO QF-3470?
Tanyusha
Quote: Vanya28

tanya1962, do you have a GASTRO QF-3470?
Yes, I have this kneader.
Vanya28
Quote: Lena

It's time to think about the kneader ...

Lena, Hairpin - GASTRO QF-3470 is a very decent planetary one, it kneads in its entire volume without skipping, a kneader and 3 attachments, which makes it quite versatile. Power 600 watts. not little. The price is reasonable.
Lena
Quote: Hairpin

Lena! Do you have a bread maker? !! And then I somehow immediately decided that there is ...
yes, entered in the profile. like three years ago I already entered it and did not pay attention now. it's just that the bucket is almost dead, you still need to buy a new one.
Tanyusha
Vanya28 there it is written from 600 W - 1000 W, I think so the higher the speed, the more power.
Vanya28
This is from the load, it keeps the revolutions (speed) of the batch and increases the power, if it's hard, so as not to reduce them, which is convenient.
Crochet
Girls and boys, I'm a little off topic, but curiosity prevailed ... And what is wrong with the dumplings from HP? I've been making such a dough for two years now (sometimes even a double portion) - the dough is wonderful, where is it better? Yes, and KP kneads it at a time, no attempts from KP were noticed ...
nut
I'm fine too, but I still mix it with my hands to make it tighter, but these are my troubles
julifera
Quote: Krosh

Girls and boys, I'm a little off topic, but curiosity prevailed ... And what is wrong with the dumplings from HP? I've been making such a dough for two years now (sometimes even a double portion) - it's a wonderful dough, where is it better? Yes, and KP kneads it at a time, no attempts from KP were noticed ...

If dumplings - then everything is ok,
but noodle, where for 100 g of flour - 1 egg and a truncated - this is with a huge creak, it's a pity if HP is bent
Lubasha
and I bought a Silva pro dough mixer in the Ukrainian Nekkerman. Cost together with postal services at UAH 1185. I tried it, I'm very happy, the baguettes turned out to be excellent. 1000 W power, 6 speeds + impulse, an iron bowl of 5 liters. Looks like Kenwood, and the cost is lower
alyona
Lubasha , I looked at him - the appearance is very good. liked it.
What are your impressions? How long have you been using it? And in general, whose firm is this?
What kind of dough have you already kneaded, how were your impressions?
Lubasha
Received the day before yesterday. Kneading the dough for cake and baguettes. Both worked very well. Loud, really. I haven't tried it at the highest speed, everything is at a low speed. I'll try a biscuit tomorrow. The view is very solid, and the firm is German.
The baguette dough was first kneaded in a mixer, there was no usual bun. Out of fear, I pulled the dough into the bread maker, reduced the kneading time, but completely in vain. The dough was ready in 5 minutes in the mixer. The dough was raised in the bread maker (since the bucket was soiled) Baking in the oven. It turned out awesome and with big holes. Apparently the gluten opened better.
alyona
Lubasha How long have you been waiting for an order, from the moment of registration on the site? Received by cash on delivery?
Lubasha
I paid cash on delivery, waited a long time. I ordered 10/17/09, then wrote, asked about the fate of the order. They replied that they would do it as soon as they appeared. He looks exactly like Kenwood, especially today in Foxtrot looked, but not for 4000 UAH. !! I still licked my lips and looked at him since the summer, took a long time to decide.
alyona
Lubasha , thanks for the info.
I'm thinking about buying this type of thing.
I was looking for Gastro in Ukraine, but he is not here.
In general, she and Silva are very similar.
Silva has a power of 1000 - that's a plus!

Gastro:
Stationary dough mixer

Silva:Stationary dough mixer
Lena
Lubasha, how is he with a guarantee and service? did you knead something else?
Lubasha
the attached order paper says that the warranty is a year. about service, I don't know. There you can also buy Bosch at a normal price. And it is smaller in size. Someone from the members of the forum bought it there. Well, that's exactly what I wanted. I don’t advertise anything, I just share my joy.
Lena
Bosch is gone. but I like this thing if it really kneads the bread dough well. Still wondering who, after a year, will take a repair, if what?
alyona
Lena, I've also found a harvester. It is very similar to the two previous ones, but for sure we have special services. for this firm.
But I haven’t come across the equipment of this company. Respond to the owners of the Clathronic ...

Stationary dough mixer

Dough mixer Clatronic KM 2718.
In our Dnipro, in the online store. Price 1115gr.
Freken Bock
I saw KM Clatronis "live" in Auchan. The price is only much higher than UAH 1115. I would have bought it for 1115 hryvnia, I couldn't resist, honestly. The declared power is 1000 W, quite decent ... Many people on the forum have Clatronis bread machines, everyone is happy. And the owners of the Clatronis ice cream makers can beat them if they say something bad about this company.
alyona
Freken Bock, Thank you.
I am torn between Bosch 47A1 (or red 46R1), write indices from memory, I can be mistaken, and here is this type of mixer.
It seems like Bosch there is an opportunity to replenish it later, and the second option - the power is suitable and the understanding that one in one is always better in quality than two (or more) in one.

On the other hand, I need a meat grinder and a shredder from the combine, or then I will have to buy all this separately ...

So I'm torn ...
Lubasha
In Klatronic it was not written anywhere that the mixer is planetary, although it looks like that. I looked at him too. And I just needed the planetary one ...
Lena
Yeah, looked at the site 🔗
do not write about the planetary mechanism, I will find out tomorrow
Freken Bock
Lena, the combine is ripped off Kenwood, there must be planetary mixing. If anything, whistle, I'll go to the store and take a look.

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