Lenusya
Please advise: Does it make sense to buy a Zepter lamp? The pediatrician advises to purchase: it treats bronchitis and other diseases well, it is used in the treatment of skin diseases: dermatitis, etc.
Does anyone have any experience with this thing?
Admin
Quote: Lenusya

Please advise: Does it make sense to buy a Zepter lamp? The pediatrician advises to purchase: it treats bronchitis and other diseases well, it is used in the treatment of skin diseases: dermatitis, etc.
Does anyone have any experience with this thing?

If we are talking about an infrared lamp, then it costs - a lot that heals and simply relieves pain or discomfort. I use this and do not regret it.
Lenusya
Admin, thanks for the info.
Yes, just such a lamp, Biopron Compact. So, really, it's worth thinking about buying (although it costs decently) - since you can use it for both adults and children
Admin
Quote: Lenusya

Admin, thanks for the info.
Yes, just such a lamp, Biopron Compact. So, really, it's worth thinking about buying (although it costs decently) - since you can use it for both adults and children

Precisely Bioptron, I use it, but I forgot the name. Only if there is an opportunity, take it immediately with great power and a large window.
As I had the situation, it was necessary to warm up a large area, and the small window does not take the whole, I had to apply the small window several times in different places in a circle, I was afraid that it would burn out. The small lamp works up to 30 minutes, then the same amount of rest.
I believed in her when she lifted me to my feet in the literal sense of the word.
And immediately bought a big one. She has a wide range of applications. Expensive but worth it. My opinion.

Mueslik
: (Girls, how much is expensive?
Lenusya
Sites range of prices: 14000-19000 for the Biopron Compact 3. I don’t know how much it costs, tomorrow morning I’ll call the company and find out the price, then I’ll write it.

PS There is a model and about 50,000 rubles
Caprice
Once upon a time, a few years ago, a device from Zepter helped me a lot. I don't know if it was a lamp or not. The appliance was quite compact, the size of a hair dryer. It did not emit any visible light or heat during operation, and what is the principle of its operation - I still do not know. But he helped me specifically. The pains stopped very quickly. It's a pity that that store has moved in an unknown direction to me, and I can't find out the details.
Lenusya
Of course, Bioptron missile defense is a cool thing, but we will not pull it.
Bioptron Compact of them the "cheapest" (so to speak) option

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Zepter lamp - worth buying or not?
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Zepter lamp - worth buying or not?
Rustic stove
Lenusya, infrared lamps are available from different manufacturers, and they are much cheaper. Type in Yandex - you will see manufacturers and prices. Much cheaper.
Does your doctor insist on the Zepter? If so, it is most likely "lured" by a zepter.
Best of all - consult medical equipment stores.
Lenusya
I agree, but as far as I understood from the materials of the bioptron.com site, not only infrared radiation is used in the device (although I will not argue). In any case, it says there:

“In the early days of photomedicine, light therapy mainly used only the infrared and ultraviolet parts of the spectrum. In the early 1980s, a group of research scientists created a light source based on low-intensity laser radiation, but working with almost the full spectrum of visible light and part of infrared.

Research has revealed undeniable physical characteristics required for the effectiveness of light therapy.Later, the BIOPTRON Light Therapy System was developed on the basis of this technology.

Therefore, I want to have more information

Caprice
The device that I wrote about above is exactly like the one in the first picture from Lenusi.
Lenusya
Our Zepter is not working today

We visited a dermatologist (we use a pediatrician's lamp to dry a sore in our son, which does not heal for several days). The dermatologist said that it is possible to use this lamp for the treatment of skin diseases (it dries well), while simultaneously applying the cream that was prescribed to us.

Does your doctor insist on the Zepter? If so, it is most likely "lured" by a zepter.


Sorry, I looked at this phrase first.
I am 100% sure of a doctor, since we have been observed with her since birth and use all her recommendations.
The pediatrician does not insist, she recommends purchasing, if possible.

Therefore, despite the price, I think about buying this lamp and collect all possible information

Shl AdminYour opinion is very important to me, thank you very much

mazuni
My mom has. I bought it 7 years ago. There are no results, only money is not measured, if there are extra ones you can try it yourself. In general, Zepter takes a lot for the "name" (she used many goods), she is not very happy. The mixer was repaired 2 times, although not used often. The dishes also do not differ in appearance and quality, from those bought much cheaper by another company. (I used the Septor one before, so it's up to you how much money to spend.) You can find an analogue much cheaper from other manufacturers!
Lenusya
Quote: arinka

You can find a much cheaper analogue from other manufacturers!

If not difficult, name these manufacturers,
because having studied today n ... the number of sites I found out about for myself: they sell either ordinary infrared lamps (shine in red) or high-tech devices like Rikta and Vityaz, but their price also ranges from 8 to 22 thousand rubles, and there is no information from the outside about them.

There are many positive reviews about Bioptron, but has anyone heard of Rikt or Vityaz? I doubt it, although the price is not small.

Therefore, to be honest, there is already a mess in my head and the mood for Bioptron
Rustic stove
Quote: Lenusya

If not difficult, name these manufacturers,
because having studied today n ... the number of sites I found out about for myself: they sell either ordinary infrared lamps (shine in red) or high-tech devices like Rikta and Vityaz, but their price also ranges from 8 to 22 thousand rubles, and there is no information from the outside about them.

There are many positive reviews about Bioptron, but has anyone heard of Rikt or Vityaz? I doubt it, although the price is not small.

Therefore, to be honest, there is already a mess in my head and the mood for Bioptron

Lenusya,
I mean exactly infrared lamps,
they can be viewed for example here: 🔗

IMHO - you still need to find out what kind of radiation the Bioptron gives.

If there is no clear information on this topic (I understand that there is none), then show some person who understands physics the technical characteristics of this device (Filter diameter 11 cm Mains parameters 100-240 V ~, 50/60 Hz Power consumption 160 VA Rated lamp power 50 W Protection class Class II, IP 20 Device type Type B Weight 3.4 kg Ambient temperature - in use + 10 ° C to + 40 ° C - during storage + 5 ° C to + 45 ° C Wavelength 480- 3400 nm Polarization level> 95% (590-1550 nm) Specific power av. 40 mW / cm2 Luminous flux density per minute av. 2.4 J / cm2).

Another option is to call the septor (phone on the website 🔗) and find out which clinical studies (where, when, by whom) confirm the effectiveness of the device.
While I was answering you, I climbed the network, read about Bioptron. If I bought such a device, I would be VERY stressed by such statements as (from the site
Painlessness and short treatment time
No side effects

well, what else is there in a column written on the main page ...
well, just a miracle device.

If this is a medical device (and you look at what conditions it is recommended for), then it should have a list of contraindications and possible side effects.

Check out the article about light therapy here: 🔗 (a bioptron is just a device for light therapy).
Here, in particular, they write about contraindications to infrared radiation and UV.

In general, be careful not to buy for a lot of money what you can buy much cheaper!

Health to you and children!
Lenusya
Rustic stove, thanks for the advice.
Very interesting information on 🔗

in Bioptron it is written that there is no UV radiation, it works with almost the full spectrum of visible light and part of infrared. It is advisable to consult a doctor before use.
Certified indications are wound healing and pain management.
For leg ulcers, bedsores, burns and in the treatment of post-traumatic and postoperative wounds.
For pain related to rheumatology, physiotherapy, sports medicine

The combination of the following four characteristics provides a beneficial effect:
- polarization
- polychromaticity
- incoherence
- low energy level.

BIOPTRON light is polarized: its waves propagate (oscillate) in parallel planes. The light emitted by the BIOPTRON device reaches 95% polarization.

Bioptron light is polychromatic. This means that it is made up of not only one wavelength (like laser beams), but a wide spectrum of waves, including visible light and some infrared. The electromagnetic spectrum of BIOPTRON Light does not contain UV radiation!

In contrast to laser light, BIOPTRON Light is incoherent or out of phase. This means that the light waves are out of sync.

BIOPTRON's light wavelength is 480 - 3400 nm, which is a combination of visible light and near infrared.

BIOPTRON Light is completely free from ultraviolet radiation.

What is the difference between sunlight and BIOPTRON Light?
Compared to sunlight, the technically synthesized BIOPTRON beams provide Light Therapy with controlled and therefore reproducible characteristics.
Admin

The one who will help you most of all to deal with this lamp and the problem in buying it is only your doctor.
And we will sing at the forum in different tunes, and each his own song, defending and proving something incomprehensible, and most importantly, not knowing what it is.

I wish you success and health to you and your baby
Olga @
Quote: Lenusya

If not difficult, name these manufacturers

I also heard about Beurer infrared lamps:
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But it may be that this is "not from that opera".
Lenusya
Admin, Village stove, Olga @, arinka, Thank you very much for your help
I will tell the family all the information at the "home consultation", when I return the lamp to the doctor, I will talk to her again and there we will resolve this issue
mish
Quote: Lenusya

If not difficult, name these manufacturers,
because having studied today n ... the number of sites I found out about for myself: they sell either ordinary infrared lamps (shine in red) or high-tech devices like Rikta and Vityaz, but their price also ranges from 8 to 22 thousand rubles, and there is no information from the outside about them.

There are many positive reviews about Bioptron, but has anyone heard of Rikt or Vityaz? I doubt it, although the price is not small.

Therefore, to be honest, there is already a mess in my head and the mood for Bioptron
Ten years ago, we had to buy an infrared device Dune-T for my daughter (polypous tonsils and adenoids - she could not even eat mashed potatoes - she was bleeding in her throat - and slept while sitting in order to breathe somehow, but they did not take the operation because of persistent inflammation It turned out to be a vicious circle - no surgery, because inflammation, and inflammation can go away fully only after surgery). About Zepter then it was not heard. We didn’t regret it - they actually pulled our daughter (she was four years old) from the other world - the doctor said that in another month and she would have lost her kidneys due to killer drugs that were used to extinguish the inflammation.Dune-T warmed her a day as much as they could, but not less than the recommended 40 minutes a day. A month and a half later they brought her to surgery with normal ones !!! analyzes. For me, this is the main indicator of the effectiveness of the device. Then I bought myself three more of the same. We use it regularly and the effect, as they say, is obvious, and most importantly, it is cheaper than the Zepter (I'm shocked by the price that I indicated in the subject). Dune-T now costs about 1,500 rubles. Easy to find by search engine.
Scarlet
We have a Bioptron. I can only say good things about him (one drawback is expensive). This device actually helps.
The bioptron emits linearly polarized light with a wavelength of 400-2000nm (i.e., it contains a small part of the infrared spectrum, but does not contain ultraviolet rays).
ikko4ka
I don't want to offend anyone ... My friend had such a lamp, and I used it for various illnesses. Maybe my body does not perceive these waves, or something else .... There was no benefit from it. And then her friend sold it. I think if she helped like that, they would not get rid of her.
Dana
Sorry girls for not a very medically reasoned answer, but ...
A friend bought such a lamp and was pleased to invite us to visit. The fact that it radiates is a fact. When it was turned on, the dog whined and huddled in the kitchen in the farthest corner. A weak electric field hangs in the room. They say weak radiation has a positive effect on plant growth and, probably, heals, but I would not experiment on my child. Moreover, no one has yet received the consequences from its use. Genetically modified foods were also considered useful at one time ... This is purely my opinion.
Caprice
Quote: mish

Then I bought myself three more of the same. We use it regularly and the effect, as they say, is obvious, and most importantly, it is cheaper than the Zepter
How many of them are needed for a family?
Summer resident
The bioptron is an excellent thing and is necessary in the house. But as other comrades wrote, you can find a similar device for cheaper money. If there is no analogue of the Zepter saucepans, then the rest of the bells and whistles are completely replaceable. IMHO
Chantal
I cannot dispute the opinions of other owners of the bioptron, especially since I have not the slightest reason to doubt that if Admin says that it helped her, then it helped, but for myself I will say that I tried several times to treat the child, husband and myself - from various diseases .. I did not notice the effect no, never, therefore it is gathering dust .. I don’t even remember in which corner, maybe the truth is to sell better

PS: it is terribly inconvenient to use on yourself, it is difficult to adjust the position and the field is small, even a child needs to do several "visits"
Admin
But in the case of the septor, there is not even a question of self-medication problems, but of the cost of this device. This lamp with its price is a real scam.


Maybe so - but this "scam" lifted me out of bed in the literal sense of the word.

py. sy - why doesn't my message counter change? As there were 18 messages, it is, no matter how much I wrote.

For clarification, refer to the topic Administrator explains ...
This topic is not specialized.
Let's not get involved in a fight without knowing the subtleties. Suffice it to say it helps / doesn't help - that's all! Nothing else is required of you.
I, like many on the forum, do not own a theory in physics (I had a grade at school), but I clearly know that all attacks need to be argued with documents, and not at the level of "I was told ..."
And I am not advocating the purchase of a lamp, I am for a normal reasoned dialogue.

I propose to change the principle of discussion of the device or to disperse on other topics.
ikko4ka
Eleonora, hello!
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In case of skin diseases, burns, the epidermis is restored.

My daughter has eczema on her hands - it didn't help. A friend has shingles, and it also did not help.
Admin
Regarding the use of the Zepter lamp, I want to make the following message:

In life and on the forum there are many connoisseurs and opponents use of this device in everyday life and for medical purposes.

How this BIOPTRON device looks like and you can get acquainted with its capabilities and structure on the Zepter website at 🔗

The need to use this device personally for you for medical purposes, you can consult with your doctor.
Or by consulting with Zepter consultants if you deem it necessary.

In this topic, we only share our personal experience of using the device, people who have this device, and who can do something tell in more detail about its usefulness or not usefulness in practice.
This is how it should be - our audience was divided into those to whom the device helps and those who did not feel any action from the device.
Let it be! We express only our opinion and our observations!

Hope for understanding!
Jefry
Quote: Admin

I, like many on the forum, do not own a theory in physics (I had a grade at school), but I clearly know that all attacks need to be argued with documents, and not at the level of "I was told ..."
If you show the technical characteristics of the Zepter lamp to a nuclear physicist (covering the line with your finger about 99% of polarized light), then he will say that these are the parameters of an ordinary incandescent lamp. The spectral characteristic is the same, the glass of the flask does not transmit ultraviolet light in any way (and it is not there initially). And to get polarized light out of ordinary, it is enough to reflect it in a mirror. I will not question the healing properties of the Zepter lamp (of course they are), but after all, no one has conducted clinical studies of ordinary desktop ones.
Eleonora
This device has Brewster mirrors (special 5 mirrors, like mica, processed in special different liquids in such a way that a polarization of 95% is achieved, the light comes from a Swiss halogen lamp inside, this light is the same as the sun, but if we absorb the sun by 5 % is maximum when reflected from water, for example, from the sea, with an ultraviolet spectrum, then this is 95%. Due to which a therapeutic effect is achieved, a visible wide polychromatic spectrum has healing properties. Physiotherapists say .. the future belongs to light .. in medicine is actively used ultraviolet, infrared and visible for a long time, since antibiotics swept the market in 1943, although in 1903 Ryberg Finsen received an award for light therapy and it always justified attention to this gentle method of treatment. Of course our Russian "brains" could make similar, but this is a patented innovation, patented this particular wavelength and, if you do more or less Earlier, there will be no such effect and there will be side and contraindications, so there can be no Russian analogues. I know many wonderful stories of healing by him, I am very sorry if he is lying on the sidelines of someone without attention. If you did not see the effect, then you did not complete the whole course of sessions according to the instructions, a daily course, without interruptions. Bioptron is an irreplaceable thing in the family, you understand it when you get it. Here they say. "Either you have it, or you need it." And they tell the truth.
"The time will come when people will be treated with 7 colors of the rainbow." And this time has already come.
Jefry
Eleonora I have already read this text many times, I will repeat it again - these are mantras for people who are not very good at physics as part of the high school curriculum. Some phrases clearly contradict others. Better give a more serious link, or scan the certificate of conformity of this lamp, or the results of some independent examination. Maybe this lamp is imported to us as a cosmetic device such as a portable solarium for intimate places, but it is sold as you know what ...
squeezza
Eleonora, here's the certificate:
 Zepter lamp - worth buying or not?

taken from here: 🔗
juliya05
My friend bought herself a Zepter Bioptron lamp, and her feedback is only positive. Advises everyone. I myself also buy such a lamp, because the effect is simply magical.
celfh
Quote: juliya05

My friend bought herself a Zepter Bioptron lamp / I also buy such a lamp for myself, because the effect is simply magical.
and what is the magic?
ikko4ka
Quote: celfh

and what is the magic?
In faith in the lamp!
Cheesecake85
The words of the chief researcher of the Moscow Burn Center of the N.V. Sklifosovsky, Professor Gerasimova, who said that the condition of her patients, in particular, those who suffered from the explosion in the passage on Pushkin Square, with the help of Bioptron was not only stabilized, but also significantly improved. In her opinion, "the effect of polarized light on burn wounds, provided that certain dosages are observed, can significantly reduce the wound process in the affected tissues, which means it can reduce pain and improve the general well-being of patients. The use of the device helps to increase the immune status of patients, and reduces the area of ​​affected areas - especially with superficial and subthermal burns. " All this is good, but now, during the cold season, I am wondering how much this device helps and does it help at all with colds and flu? My body no longer perceives any drops and pills .. That with the pills I get sick for 1.5 weeks, that without them ...
Marmura
This device appeared in our family as a small child appeared. The son is a fidget, every day there are new bruises. Now bruises, then pores ... I must admit, almost immediately eliminates pain, heals. Andryushka calls him "the sun", is not afraid, but looks with curiosity as he shines ...
Cheesecake85
Well, and you treat colds for them, how, how does it immediately help? I want to buy, so I'm thinking ... a little expensive
Marmura
Of course. The son happily puts his nose up. And not only he, the whole family enjoys it. We light about 10 minutes a day. The very first use makes breathing easier, it naturally strengthens the body's resistance, helps your immunity to perform its functions. By the way, the Zepter has a compact compression inhaler for naughty children.
Cheesecake85
If he had .. this immunity .. = (I miss a lot in my life due to frequent illnesses, then an interesting trip is canceled, then an important meeting for me.
Marmura
Getting sick every month is not the case, you have very poor immunity, but you have one), increase it with vitamins, and at least with the same Biotron. Health to you
Melanyushka
I have been using this lamp for almost 10 years, and the opinion about it is only positive. I am treating a runny nose and sore throat with a cold, the very first time I was surprised when I shone in the evening on the puffiness under my eyes (I could not get rid of them for 10 days), the next morning I did not find even a hint of swelling. Any bruises, local inflammations, bruises, abrasions heal faster than before, before the lamp. We used Dune in the family, but the Bioptron cannot be compared - it is much more effective. This is not an advertisement for a zeptera, but only my opinion, verified by experience. My lamp is far from new, I’m afraid I won’t be able to buy a new one - it’s expensive, but it’s a pity to lose such an assistant.
Marmura
Take care of such an assistant, with all sores without him, as without hands!
Cheesecake85
I listened to you and decided that Zepter is a wizard, since he created such a masterpiece. I realized that our family should buy and try Bioptron
Marmura
Try it and share your impressions with us, we will wait
Cheesecake85
I will definitely share, I'm already terribly interested. Thank you!
Lana
In short, the Bioptron Pro1 with a floor stand, since I need treatment on the spine, when I am lying with an aggravation, lifted me out of bed. And for several months now, I have not allowed exacerbation, using treatment courses on the advice of a neurologist.
A daughter and her grandson are treated with a runny nose, tonsillitis, and pharyngitis with this lamp. I relieve headaches, neurological pains in the neck and back. I relieved my knee pain by taking 5 sessions of 15 minutes daily last week.
The lamp is also good for cosmetic procedures. In the book that we bought together with Bioptron, all zones and times of exposure to light are described in detail with a lot of diseases. Today I have no doubts about the effectiveness of treatment with the Bioptron Pro1 lamp.
Yes, it is very expensive to purchase this lamp, but, no matter how banal, health is more expensive, and it is comfortable and pleasant to take procedures at home as prescribed by doctors.
Cheesecake85
This device has been at our home for a month now. First impressions: how can I shine on them regularly every day? We are used to buying some kind of pill, drinking it with water and waiting for a miracle. The first thing I tried to cure was herpes on the lip. coped. When the effectiveness of the device was on the face, I decided to try to heal the skin of the face .. a lot of scars remained from the former pustules. I gathered willpower and spent 15 minutes every day on light therapy. My diligence was rewarded. when you see how the scars gradually disappear, there is only more and more desire to cleanse the skin to the end. Thanks to everyone who spoke well about this home doctor, I'm happy with the purchase. And she took it to treat the flu) Ugh ugh ... until he came in handy in this area.
aleks-g
I just want to express my opinion about this type of device. Maybe it will change your view on this topic and change and affect the harmony of life and health ..
Who dreams of an excellent device, but cannot buy it, there is a wonderful analogue of the device made and improved by Donetsk master, mathematician-physicist-journalist-publicist I.V. Rudenko. The device is called Lumenotron (look in a search engine). My wife and I dreamed of Bioptron, but I found this Ukrainian analogue via the Internet, the device is also patented by the way. It costs 2-3 times less than the Compact and is more powerful in terms of parameters than the PRO version and 2. In general, who already has a Bioptron and wants to take one to their parents, relatives, or dream of a more powerful ABM or Second, that is, such an opportunity to inexpensively improve the health of relatives and themselves. The advantage of the device is that it can work around the clock in the form of a night lamp, creating an aura in the room. The rest is the same action and application as in BIOPTRON - on special points on the body, face, body parts. Let's discuss. I ask the ardent supporters of Zepter to calm down - Not all people are able to buy an expensive device, but every family can buy this one .. This is especially true in the CIS countries, where people cannot earn a lot of EURO, but earn Hryvnia and Rubles with great difficulty ..

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