Marmalade

Category: Confectionery
Marmalade

Ingredients

The juice 650ml
Agar agar 15g (a tablespoon with a small hill)
Sugar 500g
Lemon. acid (crystals) 0.5hl

Cooking method

  • Hello everyone!
  • Well, my marmalade experiments are over.
  • This sweetness is not mine "profile", but "by interest". Long ago, when I was looking in the technical library for the recipes for "Bird's milk", at the same time I scanned the recipes for marmalade. pastilles. marshmallow. I wanted to use everything for the house. It's finished!
  • Since a negative result is also a result, I will talk about the failures first. The subjects of my primary interest were. the coveted Lemon Slices, of course. I carefully studied the recipe and manufacturing technology. Adipted both. to home conditions. It was unpleasantly surprised that even in Soviet times nothing "alive" came into this sort of marmalade! It consists of:
  • Sahara
  • Molasses
  • Agara
  • Citric acid
  • Essential oils of lemon and orange
  • Dyes.
  • The marmalade cooked according to the recipe did not stiffen well (the horse dose of molasses affected) and, moreover, there was a strong taste of the same. Therefore, she pushed the recipe and took up another.
  • I will not write a GOST recipe, neither will the factory technology. Immediately I post "my" (pardon the arrogance!) Recipe that completely satisfied me and to my taste. and in appearance.
  • Soak all the agar and half a liter of juice in any container for 20-30 minutes.
  • Marmalade
  • Pour all the sugar into a saucepan and pour 150ml of juice. It will barely cover the sugar. We put on a small fire, begin to heat, stirring constantly. The syrup should boil and the sugar should be COMPLETELY dissolved. It is not necessary to boil the syrup, you just need to bring it to a boil and dissolve all the sugar.
  • Pour all the juice with agar into the boiling syrup at once. In one motion, without any "thin streams". Stir and bring to a boil again. Pour in all the citric acid and mix. interfere. interfere.
  • Marmalade
  • The mixture must be boiled so that the agar fully reveals its gelling properties. Remove the saucepan from the heat, let it cool (or force it to cool in a container with cold water, but stirring it without fail). As soon as the mixture has cooled down a little and became viscous, you can pour it into any shape or onto a sheet. I covered it up with cellophane. Cellophane did not lubricate anything, just poured it on it and that's it.
  • Marmalade
  • You can cool down in the refrigerator, you can just like that.
  • After hardening, cut the marmalade into pieces of any shape and roll in sugar. Place on a wire rack to dry. After 2-3 hours, you may need to roll again. because the sugar gets slightly wet from the mass. After a day, the sugar crust dries up and the product is ready.
  • Agar soak - 30 minutes
  • Cooking marmalade 20 minutes
  • Cooling down for 30 minutes (in the refrigerator)
  • Dropping in sugar 10 minutes
  • I only found nectar in the nearest stall. I think juice is better, and fresh juice is even better. You can add a little pulp. For healthiness, you can roll in brown sugar (and cook on it too) - make it up! It is great and not troublesome to make a two-3 layer marmalade from different types of juices (different colors).
  • For marmalade, special silicone molds are produced, these are:
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  • For my taste, homemade marmalade turned out to be quite pleasant to the taste, useful (fruit juice + agar), LASTING is now relevant. It differs from the store in a less poisonous color and a softer taste. Considering. that it is short-lived in production, I dare to offer it as another option for homemade delicacies.
  • How long is stored, I do not know. Already made 3 servings, they did not even let them dry. ate everything

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MARMALADE - fruit and berry confectionery. Depending on the raw material and the method of preparation, marmalade is fruit and berry, obtained by boiling fruit and berry puree, and jelly, prepared on a gelling base with the addition of flavoring substances, food acids, essences and colors. The gelling properties of fruits and berries depend on the content of the astringent - pectin. The highest gelling properties are possessed by quince, apples, apricots, gooseberries, etc. When boiled, they give a mass that solidifies to a solid state. These fruits are mainly used to make fruit and berry marmalade.

Depending on the method of molding, fruit and berry marmalade is produced in molded (various shapes), carved (rectangular bars), layered (rectangular layers) and pat (hemispheres, peas, flat cakes). The latter has a viscous lingering consistency, is prepared on the basis of apricot puree and sprinkled with granulated sugar or powdered sugar. Jelly marmalade is produced on the basis of various jelly-forming agents of animal and vegetable origin (pectin, agar, gelatin, fish glue, agaroid, starch, etc.). According to the method of molding, jelly marmalade can be: shaped (of various shapes, sprinkled with granulated sugar), carved (in the form of orange and lemon slices or rectangular bars of three layers), curly (in the form of berries, fruits, cones, etc.).

Depending on the fruit and berry raw materials or aromatic and coloring substances, apple or plum marmalade is produced; cherry, vanilla, etc. Any kind of marmalade can be glazed with chocolate. Marmalade, like other products made from fruits and berries (jam, jam, candied fruit, confiture, etc.), including fruit juices, contains natural pectin and is used in preventive nutrition for workers of metallurgical plants, in chemical and hot shops.

Bagel
In Moscow, in the Volkonsky confectionery, homemade marmalade is sold, although it seems to me that it hasn't done without flavorings. the point is not that, I wanted marmalade, went there, and there was a queue-horror-horror, besides, it costs either 120, or 220 r per 100 grams .. it was lazy to stand.
Blueberry jam marmalade


I took a jar of mother-in-law blueberry jam (well, we eat jam badly, badly) .. chopped it with a blender to puree, added agar there, poured it into a glass dish and boiled it in the microwave for 10 minutes .. cooled down, put it in the refrigerator, then cut it into pieces and rolled it in sugar, the sugar is slightly diluted, it still turns out to be wetter than the store ... the strangest thing is delicious! and you know exactly what it is made of ...

And Tortyzhka - many thanks for her skill and ability to teach others ...
Anastasia
Bagel

Thank you for message! And then the blueberry jam also disappeared from the mother-in-law, we also do not eat the jam, but she cooks anyway. It is already worth it, it is cooling for me according to your recipe for marmalade. Poured the mass into a cake pan-narrow and tall. Lined it with baking paper.On a half-liter jar of jam, I put another 3 tablespoons of lemon, grated with sugar. It turned out very tasty, with hints of citrus. If only it would now cool and freeze! I will report later how it froze with my agar.
Bagel
Anastasia, and if it does not freeze, it was like that at first, you reheat it in the microwave with extra. a portion of agar-agar reversible gel, it's good that you remembered about citrus, I forgot to write that I added citric acid ..
Anastasia
Quote: Bagel

Anastasia, if it doesn’t freeze, it was like that at first, you reheat it in the microwave with add. a portion of agar-agar reversible gel, it's good that you remembered about citrus - I forgot to write that I added citric acid ..

Thank you, Baranka! No, apparently this time it will freeze all the same as it should! The last time with the protein cream, I probably just did not bring it to the desired temperature. And this time, I brought it and boiled it, as you wrote, for a few minutes. I was thinking about citric acid, but I also love the bitterness from the zest, so I put the lemon, rubbed with the peel.
Anastasia
Well, the marmalade is already frozen! It turned out to be very tasty and very tender and of course we will eat it much faster than just jam.
My daughter asked not to add sugar in sugar - we don't need extra calories. I cut into small figures using tin cookie cutters.

Marmalade
Bagel, thanks again for the recipe!
Andreevna
B. T. I. , not at all. It is packaged there in 50g, it costs 75 rubles. This is so, for information
Anastasia, Baranka, and if in more detail from jam. I understood this way:
1. Jam - 0.5 l. jar (shoveled in a blender)
2. Soak 15g of agar in 150ml of juice (or water all the same?)
3. Add soaked agar to the boiling puree
4. Stir and bring to a boil.
5. Add 3 tablespoons to the puree. l. chopped lemon with sugar (or should it be added immediately before boiling?)
Further, according to the main recipe. Girls, please clarify now and I'll go do
Quote: Sofim

Andreevna, beauties, not marmalade! Now it's time for agar, I'll do it according to your recipes
Cake, we are waiting for bird milk, I can’t sleep anymore, I see IT!
Oh, but I haven't done it yet. That Baranka and Anastasia worked hard. Now I just have to do it!
Anastasia
Quote: Andreevna

Anastasia, Baranka, and if in more detail from jam. I understood this way:
1. Jam - 0.5 l. jar (shoveled in a blender)
2. Soak 15g of agar in 150ml of juice (or water all the same?)
3. Add soaked agar to the boiling puree
4. Stir and bring to a boil.
5. Add 3 tablespoons to the puree. l. chopped lemon with sugar (or should it be added immediately before boiling?)
Further, according to the main recipe. Girls, please clarify, now and I will go to do it. Oh, but I haven't done it yet. That Baranka and Anastasia worked hard. Now I just have to do it!

You got it right! Only boil the mixture with agar together, give 3-4 minutes, otherwise I didn’t let the agar boil properly last time, so it didn’t grab me, but I already sinned on bad agar... Lemon can be mixed in at the end, so the vitamins are better preserved. But it doesn't matter! Then pour the entire mixture into any form and wait to cool to room temperature and refrigerate until it solidifies. Everything happens very quickly and very easily!
Anastasia
Quote: Aunt Besya

Girls - Anastasia, Baranka, Andreevna! Directly envious of you reading. I have so much jam, even my own juice (lingonberry, keyberry, blackberry), so try hotz, but no agar. At least put the pictures, I'll try your eyes

Tomorrow my husband promised to go again and replenish my stocks of agar - I took a little sample at first. Aunt Besya, treat yourself to your health! Maybe you will be lucky enough to find this agarchik somewhere!
Andreevna
Quote: Anastasia

Tomorrow my husband promised to go again and replenish my stocks of agar - I took a little sample at first. Aunt Besya, treat yourself to your health! Maybe you will be lucky enough to find this agarchik somewhere!
Soon Sukharevka will not have time to pack agar
Anastasia, and you soaked agar in water or juice?
Bagel
I didn't even dilute the agar with water, I immediately plopped it into the jam and boiled it with it ... I'm glad that my method of "utilizing" the jam came in handy ...
Anastasia
Quote: Andreevna

Soon Sukharevka will not have time to pack agar
Anastasia, and you soaked agar in water or juice?

I'm in the water.
Bagel
I think if diluted in water, it will not be so sweet, which is for the best ..
Andreevna
I also soaked the agar, in the water with which I rinsed the jam jar. Che good to disappear
Andreevna
And here is the report on the work done, blackcurrant marmalade:

Marmalade

Cake, Bagel, Anastasiathanks girls! It's so delicious.

Quote: Aunt Besya

Girls - Anastasia, Baranka, Andreevna! Directly envious of you reading. I have so much jam, even my own juice (lingonberry, keyberry, blackberry), so try hotts, but no agar. At least put the pictures, I'll try your eyes

Aunt Besya, try it for your health !!!


Andreevna
Quote: Anastasia

Andreevna,! And how fast, right ?!
Yes, very fast. Great recipe!
Cake
Girls, what are you all great fellows !!!!!
The bagel is just clever !!! I've thought about everything, but no about jam. But by the beginning of the new season there is so much of it !!!! And I didn't think about the microwave, but for someone in it, maybe it will be more convenient to heat the marmalade !!! yes super! I read and am directly proud of you, because I asked: creativity! creation! Turn on your fantasy !!! And my dear girls "swept the barns, scraped the bottom of the barrel", and rinsed the jars, "Than in the basin, it is better in us!"
Let's summarize.
The marmalade turned out to be easy to make, tasty. inexpensive, lean and disposing of leftover jam. In addition, it is low in calories due to its lack of fat. That is, of course, not a dietary dish, but also not a cake with cream
Not bad, I tell you! Not many dishes can boast of such a set of benefits!
Regarding the proportion of agar: sweet mass. I think so.One tablespoon with a small hill (15 g, I weighed!) Was enough for normal gelling, half a kilogram of sugar and 650 g of juice. And that is 1150 g of liquid sweet mixture. I put more agar, it looked like a frozen silicone sealant, so you should probably proceed from this proportion.
Don't be afraid to sprinkle citric acid or lemon juice with zest! This acid in the marmalade is very pleasant!
BooBoo, about the buttercream. Put the cream and a can of condensed milk in the refrigerator overnight - cold ingredients go down much better. Drootker "cream fixer" will not hurt for a safety net. Of course, some kind of flavoring, vanillin for example. Cocoa cream will "plant" - do not pour it better. I am also terribly amused by "clever men" who advise: "To make the cream go off better, add the egg white" Well, what will the protein do in fat? !!! unless it adds to the risk of salmonellosis.
As I expected, there were no people willing to poke around for 2 hours with "Lemon Slices". And rightly so! This is just an experiment and nothing more! The taste does not change from the form. but to kill a car of time is a pity.
Cake
Quote: Alexandra

Cake, cute

Will there be a place in your creative thoughts for diabetics and slimming forum women to make a present? In the sense of marmalades-marshmallows-marshmallows-desserts on agar without sugar, fructose and substitute ??? Dreaming is not harmful, but still ...

If anything comes to mind - I will place it with honor in the heading about healthy eating !!!

Maybe mashed potatoes from Antonovka or quince without sugar (baked fruit, mashed and boiled without sugar) will suit the base of marshmallows and marshmallows, eh? It's thick, the spoon is worth it. And there is enough pectin
Gerber Sugar Free Baby Food - the second contender in terms of pectin and sweetness

Are looking forward to

Alexanderchka, dear !!!! If you make marmalade without sugar (fructose. Substitute), then I'm afraid. that you get more SOAP than MARMALADE ..I do not think that for "diabetics and slimming forum users" this will be a "present"! rather, a mockery of their efforts ... Whatever you say, sugar-free marmalade and pastilles cannot be prepared ... Or its substitutes. If you boil quince or apples without sugar, hoping only for pectin (well, add agar) ... more likely it will be such a marshmallow or something ... in Central Asia, boiled down and dried on sheets. until the "chewing gum" was received ... Yes, such that all the fillings from the teeth were pulled out In the Caucasus there is chuchela - boiled grape juice. Then dried fruits and nuts are glazed with it. By the way. it is very unstable in storage. why many vacationers in the south were poisoned with this delicacy (properly cooked, delicious!) to make marshmallows without sugar? : oThen it will be necessary to brew the knocked-down puree simply with agar brewed in water? Horror movie Maybe diabetics can offer another dessert for tea, and replace losing weight with brown sugar or fructose? Or we'll pour some bran for them (a lot means they won't eat!)
I really want, Aleksandr, to your topic, because health problems are of great interest to me, but the confectionery industry is an industry of temptations and, by and large, bad habits that do not contribute to health improvement: Alas ...

Bagel, about marmalade in a private pastry shop, I want to show this one:
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For all of Moscow I will not say. but most of them use this particular "device". Tasty, fast, not cheap (look at the price list), but the premium class is quite attractive.
Alexandra
Cake,
But look at the sugarless sweets on agar - not everything is so hopeless.
I call you to do something similar and better in the heading about healthy eating. And for reference - that's what members of the forum did with Lose weight. RU

Marmalade
Sofim
Andreevna, tell us about blackcurrant marmalade. You have it so uniform in appearance - Reply # 192. Did you just grind the jam in a blender or do you have it strained from berry skins and seeds?
Ellka
Alexandra

Nice, very nice.
How about delicious ???

Soul Magic
Cake

Today I made lemon slices, or rather orange ones
I'm probably completely crooked, but I didn't get the protein layer at all. He did not want to thicken, and then also freeze. I did the smallest bit well, because it floated up in the refrigerator. Threw it away while no one saw it. But I poured the leftovers into molds, everything froze well, now I'm drying. I decided to put some of it in a dryer for fruits and vegetables in cold air, an experiment, so to speak, I will report on the result in the photo a little later
Alexandra
Quote: Ellka

Alexandra

Nice, very nice.
How about delicious ???

I went here for another education in the evenings and on weekends, so honestly, as if in spirit: I did not do anything myself.

For the purpose of losing weight, I use 2 grams of agar every day hot: in the morning with cappuccino coffee, in the evenings with cocoa in water. Both without sugar and sweeteners, but with cinnamon (it lowers blood sugar and promotes proper insulin release, i.e., including weight loss).
Agar gells already in the stomach at body temperature and at zero calories (natural fiber_ provides high-quality saturation - this applies like evening cocoa - it saves from the urge to eat after 18 and from chocolate gorge, and morning coffee - prevents overeating. Agar as fiber also reduces the rate of insulin release , promotes weight loss and lowers blood sugar. Gives thickness and richness to drinks, especially cocoa - it becomes just thick hot chocolate

But although she herself did not make any goodies, after reading the new book by Elena Stoyanova "Agar-agar - a trap for hunger", and regularly reading the forum, I am sure that those who want to pamper themselves with desserts on agar without sugar and, therefore, without prejudice to their figure, will remain satisfied.

Of course, this is not the traditional sweet-sweet taste.
But my muffin baked goods are also now all without a drop of sugar, fructose, honey or sweetener. Only low GI dried fruits and applesauce. And very quickly everyone who tried it - myself, my family and colleagues - all got used to it and appreciated the taste.
Same. I think it will be with agar desserts.
kolynusha
Cake, made marmalade according to your recipe, only replaced citric acid with lemon juice. Thank you!!! The recipe is very simple to implement.

Marmalade

It can also be used to decorate children's cakes. Pour in a thin layer, put on the cake, and decorate the edges with cornet cream.
Andreevna
Quote: Sofim

Andreevna, tell us about blackcurrant marmalade. You have it so uniform in appearance - Reply # 192. Did you just grind the jam in a blender or do you have it strained from berry skins and seeds?
Blackcurrant marmalade
Jam - half-liter jar + 150ml water
Agar 15g - (a tablespoon with a small hill).
Lemon juice with sugar - 3 tbsp. l. (you can and without sugar)
Pour 15 g of agar into 150 ml of water or juice (I rinsed the jam jar and strained it through a strainer) and leave for 30 minutes.
Grind the jam with a blender. To remove the bones and peel, you need to throw this puree onto cheesecloth and squeeze the gauze. Put the puree on the stove. Boil, pour the whole norm of agar into it immediately. Stir and cook over low heat until the agar begins to show itself (3 minutes for me). Add lemon juice during cooking. Chill the saucepan in cold water, stirring all the time, or just on the table, until it begins to stretch from the spoon. Pour into a container and refrigerate. Will harden (very quickly), cut into wedges and sprinkle with powdered sugar.
PS next time I will take less agar, I think 10 grams will be enough. Blackcurrant jam jellies very well.
Celestine
And today I "marmalade"

Did I do it this way, or is it necessary? It turned out to be very soft, that is, the teeth do not stick like in a store marmalade, but like hard jelly, but while I poured sugar over it, I ate a quarter of the product

Marmalade

It is dried on a wire rack

Marmalade

Cake
Celestine, congratulations! Handsomely! Indeed, he does not reach for his teeth. I think. to add rubberiness (if it is not enough for your taste), you need to replace part of the agar with pectin. This is a purely hypothetical assumption, not based on any facts. I just saw pectin in the recipe for some types of marmalade.
Magic of the Soul, well, why are you so fire your hands ?! That's why the brain works! And the skill will come !!! It's strange that the layer has surfaced .... And figs with it! make it double layer! Did you enjoy the taste?
Dry fruit jelly in a fruit dryer - idea !!! Last week I bought an Alaska dryer at METRO for 777 rubles. True, she gave her mother-in-law on March 8, but you can buy yourself for a good cause?

Now for Alexanderchki... I'm ashamed, I take my words back! Such beauty, such professional performance! I will justify myself with the words of the ancient philosopher: “I only know that. I don’t know anything!” They once again proved to me that since I do not know this, it does not mean that this cannot be. Forgive my arrogance. Will be studying.
kolynusha, good health! the bas-relief is cool! I also know how to decorate a jelly cake, I'll show you in the near future.
The girls who asked for the recipe for "Nevsky Pie". Chesslovo, I never saw him in his eyes, but she puzzled everyone she could. They promised to help. There will be results, unsubscribe. And I myself will learn to bake this miracle-pie. If he is still in people's minds. then deserves attention!
Lisss's
Andreevna, thanks for the systematization thanks to you do not have to collect the recipe like a puzzle
obgorka_gu
: wow: Oh, girls! What are you all great! We've already done so much in 2 days!
Cake Thank you very much for the recipes (pedagogical talent is not lost) !!! , I really want marmalade, but I have never seen agar on sale, I will look for it, try to make it with gelatin (although there is a threat to get gum)
Cake
This is your threat to get a rubber band! And with us - to gain invaluable experience in making marmalade on gelatin
Boil the syrup until the sugar dissolves. add gelatin. but you can't boil! Just wait for the first bubbles! Store, therefore, it is also impossible. Although, everyone. then cooked on agar, it was also stored "who had time, he ate"
Well, theoretically you are savvy. now we are waiting for practice And many dozens of members of the forum are waiting for the results. because not everyone has the opportunity to buy agar
GOOD LUCK !!!
Soul Magic
Cake

No, well, they really turned out to be crooked
Now I tried the slices, very tasty. But in the future I will do it from freshly squeezed juice, I'm so calmer than purchased one. Here are my slices, though not yet completely dry
Marmalade
Admin
Girls, do you remember there was such a marmalade in the form of balls - all multi-colored!

And if Pour the prepared marmalade mixture into round ice packs - what can we get? And then just open the bags (break) and roll the balls in sugar

Success
Crochet
Soul Magic
What are the claims to such beauty? Very appetizing slices! I'll wait for the agar-agar and make it too!
Gasha
Soul Magic, Irishka, great !!!
Soul Magic
Crochet
Gasha


Embarrassed straight, I'm just learning from the masters (they would see my slices with "peel", would not wait for complements)
foxtrader
Girls, if you have a Globus Gourmet store in the city, there may be this proverbial agar-agar. I bought it today.
And yet, I took it by weight, so on the bag, where the "price tag" was glued, it is written: Agar-agar India. Why am I doing this, maybe it makes sense to look in Indian stores?
Alexandra
Look in Indian Spices

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Boo Boo
Alexandra, Thank you. Indeed there is.
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obgorka_gu
Quote: Tortyzhka

This is your threat to get a rubber band! And with us - to get invaluable experience in making marmalade on gelatin ...
well then I'll go do it now, the family is asleep, no one will interfere (the cat does not count, the main thing is to pour milk for her)
Aunt Besya
Quote: Celestine

And today I "marmalade"

Did I do it this way, or is it necessary? It turned out to be very soft, that is, the teeth do not stick like in a store marmalade, but like hard jelly, but while I poured sugar over it, I ate a quarter of the product
And what is such beauty cut, some special notches?
Lisss's
Quote: LenaV07

... the question arose of what are sodium lactate and desulfurized applesauce.

I found about lactic acid and sodium lactate - they are both used in marmalade and marshmallow

Lactic acid - one of the organic acids, very useful for the body, in particular for digestion. It is formed from sugars in the process of lactic acid fermentation in milk, cabbage, cucumbers, wine, beer, etc. In the food industry it is used as a preservative, food additive E270. In the confectionery industry, lactic acid and its sodium salt (sodium lactate) are used in the manufacture of marmalade, pastille, marshmallow, caramel with fruit filling, sunflower halva, gingerbread and other products.

Sodium lactate - lactic acid salt. It is a hygroscopic substance, a food additive for use in the food industry as an acidity regulator, a water-retaining agent, an emulsifying salt, a synergist of antioxidants (enhances their effect).

In general, both are not harmful by the way, sodium lactate is sold in pharmacies
Celestine
Quote: Aunt Besya

And what is such beauty cut, some special notches?

these are silicone molds, and the rhombuses are frozen cut into a plate
Sofim
Aunt Besya, you can figuratively cut the marmalade with cookie cutters. It seems Anastasia did so, the photo is somewhere above.
Admin
And my five cents in this topic

I think this material will be useful for you and informative

GELATIN

From the website 🔗
What do we know about how to use gelatin correctly? We know that gelatin should never be boiled!
Why? Its gelling properties are impaired. Or - it's scary to say! - completely disappear! Why else? Jelly may become cloudy.
Interesting interesting....
Why do the gelling properties disappear?
But no one explains this anywhere! There is no such thing in any cookbook.
And there can be no explanation for this.
Because this is another culinary myth.
And I can now prove it, because I made a simple but objective experiment.


But first about what kind of gelatin is on sale.

one.Gelatin differs in the type of raw material from which it is obtained.
There is gelatin of meat origin and fish.
Fish gelatin is more expensive because the manufacturing process is more complicated.
In addition, fish gelatin is less soluble in water.

2. Gelatin varies in degree of purification, which affects its solubility and gelling properties.
The purer the gelatin, the higher its gelling properties and the faster it dissolves even at lower temperatures.

3. Gelatin varies in shape - there are sheets, granules and powder.
Professional chefs prefer to work with gelatin sheets for its ease of use.

One sheet of gelatin weighs 4 grams, which greatly facilitates the calculation of the required amount and provides greater accuracy. In addition, there is no need to worry about the exact amount of liquid to soak - the sheets will only absorb the required amount for swelling. In addition, sheet gelatin has markings for the strength of the jelly that forms, which is very important if complex, artistic desserts are created from jelly. At home, all this is not essential and you can safely use powdered gelatin.

Moreover, you can buy sheet gelatin in Israel only in specialized stores such as "Mister Cake", etc., since sheet gelatin is made from pork skin.

Task: to find out what exactly happens to the jelly if the gelatin is boiled?

Given:

1. Apple juice - 2 glasses.
2. 2 types of powdered gelatin - fish and meat, 7 g each (1/2 sachet).

Actions:

1. Since fish gelatin is less soluble, it must be pre-soaked - this is written on the label.
She poured 1 glass of juice, poured gelatin on top, set it to swell. By the way, this is important - gelatin is always added to the liquid, and not vice versa! Otherwise, it sticks together into lumps, which may remain even after heating.

2. Meat gelatin did not require pre-soaking, the box was instructed to pour the bag into 1 tbsp. liquid, bring to a boil and boil for 1-2 minutes.
I poured it in, stirred it, put it on the fire, cooked it for 2 minutes over very low heat, poured 1/2 cup into cup number 1.

3. The remaining 1/2 cup was boiled over high heat for about 5 minutes. The mixture boiled and boiled in half. Poured into cup number two.

4. The fish gelatin, while stirring, warmed up without boiling, up to 60-70C (according to the instructions on the label), until the gelatin dissolved. Poured 1/2 cup into cup number 3.

5. The remaining fish gelatin brought to a boil, cooked for 5 minutes, poured into cup number 4.

6. Put the cups in the refrigerator for 3 hours.

7. Put the jelly on the plates.

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Result:

- the jelly turned out in 3 cups (1,3,4) equally stable - where I did not boil gelatin, but in one cup, number 2 is not just stable, but steep, the picture shows how it clearly repeats the shape of the bottom! the jelly turned out to be transparent even when there was a violent boil

Conclusions:
- gelatin can be boiled
- jelly does not grow cloudy from violent boiling


However, where did the myth come from and why is it so tenacious?

But there is an explanation for this!

You can boil gelatin, but not in all cases you need to do this, it all depends on what is being prepared with it and how.

1. At a high concentration of gelatin in the liquid, it cannot be boiled!

For example, for cold cheesecakes or to stabilize cream, gelatin is diluted in a little water or milk and then mixed with curd or cream.
In this case, it cannot be heated longer than required for complete dissolution.
With a small volume of liquid, the solution turns out to be thick and viscous, therefore, with prolonged and strong heating, the jelly quickly thickens, lumps form, gelatin can generally burn and it will have an unpleasant aftertaste.
However, if you gape and the jelly is heated to a boil, nothing bad will happen, the jelly will work out, you don't need to pour it out and start all over again.

2. With a low concentration of gelatin in the liquid, you can boil it!

If the jelly is made from juice, fruit puree or broth, then in this case the gelatin is added to a large amount of liquid and it can be heated for a long time, at the boiling point, but you should take into account the fact that the liquid will boil down, so the concentration of gelatin will increase. Excessive concentration can negatively affect the taste, making the jelly too dense, and the flavor of the gelatin is more distinct. However, if the recipe says: cook - you can do it boldly, there is no mistake in the recipe.

3. Jelly can become cloudy from strong boiling if it is prepared from raw materials of animal origin!

If the jelly is prepared from fish or meat broth, it must be boiled like a broth - with a barely noticeable boil, otherwise it will become cloudy. But it is not gelatin that grows cloudy - the broth itself! Therefore, it can be clarified at the end of cooking in the same way as broth without gelatin is clarified.

Fish gelatin is preferable to meat. The experiment showed that under equal starting conditions, the jelly turned out to be much tastier! I conducted an independent experiment on volunteers, not trusting my own feelings, but everyone pointed to the cups of jelly on fish gelatin as more delicious!

To calculate the required amount of gelatin I take advice from the book "Desserts" (series "Good cuisine"):
"If you want a stable, shapeless jelly, take 15 grams of gelatin for every 0.6 liters of liquid, then the jelly will support its own weight.
If the jelly is served in a mold, you can reduce the amount of gelatin by 15-20%. "

By the way, that is why gelatin is packaged in sachets of 14 grams - 1 sachet is designed for 500 ml of liquid.
But if we are talking about other raw materials - proteins, cottage cheese - the ratio may be different. be guided by the recipe and your own experience! This calculation is correct for making jelly from liquid - water / juice. When thick or semi-liquid mixtures are gelled, gelatin works differently and here the proportions sometimes have to be selected empirically.
For example, my experience asserts that for a cold curd cake of 500 g of cottage cheese + 200 g of sugar + 500 ml of heavy cream (= 1200 g), 20 g of gelatin is quite enough, since the curd and cream already form a fairly stable structure (cold, of course).

In order to introduce gelatin evenly into the mixture to be gelled, the temperature must be equalized if possible. The mixture to be gelled d. B. room temperature. A small part of it must be added to the gelatin, stir thoroughly, and then, with continuous whipping or stirring, the gelatin mixture is poured into the gelatinous mixture. I repeat - all this applies only to those cases when cream / soufflé is gelled.

Helpful advice from Irma Rombauer ("The Culinary Bible")
Some fruits contain enzymes that break down collagen, so the jelly from juice or puree with such fruits does not freeze (kiwi, pineapple, lemon). But if you boil the juice of these fruits, the enzymes break down and the jelly hardens.

Advice from Israeli chief Eran Schwarzbard:
for each gram of powdered gelatin for soaking, you should take 5 grams (so in the text!) of water, excess liquid affects the quality of the jelly.

Can gelatin be frozen?

Can. But you shouldn't do this, especially if the jelly is transparent!
Gelatin does not lose its gelling properties.
But the jelly as a result of freezing becomes cloudy and becomes loose, since the water particles expanding and destroy its structure.

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obgorka_gu
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Report:
- since 75 g of gelatin was not at hand, I decided to try it with less (50 g) but with the same amount of other ingredients;
- homemade apple juice cooked in a juicer without sugar (and other preservatives, but rich in pectin);
- I did it in the evening (I soaked the gelatin in the afternoon, it was possible to cook in 40 minutes, I had to leave, it did not work out) it dissolved remarkably, I am not afraid to boil in due time by experimenting with the "birdie" (I have a recipe based on gelatin, if anyone needs I can also put out) I developed a formula for myself, bring to a boil while stirring and boil for a minute, until a gelatinous mixture, made syrup (also with low heat and stirring), brought it to a boil and set aside, while the gelatinous component fiddled with the syrup, the frothy foam thickened and I she just took it off (as when making jam), then mixed everything and poured it onto prepared dishes with lined cellophane (sleeve), sprinkled some of it with zest in a fit of inspiration
- in the morning we had fun with the child, scraped off the cellophane and rolled it in sugar, we especially liked the marriage, which was immediately eaten, the child did not like the zest (light bitterness), there was a certain rubberiness, but the taste turned out to be thick jelly, it's a pity that when the pieces were sprinkled with sugar, they began to thaw, but this was corrected by quick eating, in short, we did not bring it to dryness!
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GruSha
Cake, thank you so much for the marmalade, I will definitely try.

I also want to ask in Daymark can I buy something for individuals? Or do they only work with firms?
obgorka_gu
Anastasia very cute cake! I thought, you don’t seduce me all with cakes! But here I sit again, I want to bake a cake, and the seeming simplicity attracts most of all, because I want to admire the complex more, but in order to repeat it (it takes courage: red: to believe in your own strength and, more importantly, to have grateful eaters).
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obgorka_gu, thanks for the results of the "Marmalade on gelatin" experiment. All the same, "thick jelly" is not quite that .... You still need to somehow chew
thick jelly - it tastes, consistency, delicious gum, I thought we ate everything in the morning, did not see one plate stuck on the refrigerator, so here are some interesting observations:
almost all of the sugar melted and the pieces lay as if in a serop, and this wet surface lost its original terrible stickiness (otherwise I would not roll sugar at all), the "gum" was still thickened, springy when squeezed and restored, but the taste is good, but what it is necessary to "gnaw" the marmalade even cheerfully (the child really liked it!), but of course it does not look like a store marmalade at all (except that you also need to gnaw them from bags like worms), but it does not melt in your mouth.
And I will definitely "chemize", so I will go to the store that you advised to buy agar and make various marmalade (this is my favorite delicacy, I always wash off the sugar dusting from the shops with water or tea)

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I've already started the bird! Once they said that it can be frozen, I will freeze it before consumption!
Yes, this is a really convenient way !, we always have sweet pies in the freezer at home and biscuit rolls with different fillings (mom bakes, and since no one eats it freezes all the time and it is very convenient when guests come!) And the bird did not try to freeze, like it did not even occur to me that it is good that all our pioneers share their observations!
GruSha
Cake, thanks for the marmalade

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Hairpin
Do you accept those lagging behind? (I finished reading until March 13, the rest of the printout is at work) but, I made the marmalade !!!

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It was the only jam in the house. And how can I present all the same, but with Kroshin's orange-banana jam !!!
Hairpin
Cake, I in these forms before ... cooled the cooked soap !!!
I took it here
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But I think they were seen in Ikea.

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