kirillk
Can you please tell me which model is better to choose ZP2000KTS or ZB2502BTS, provided that they cost the same? As I understand it, without yeast dispensers and additional. ingredients, you cannot leave the bread maker unattended for delayed baking (so that you wake up in the morning and bread is waiting for you), because the dough with added yeast can go bad without a refrigerator? The ZB2502 will not have a crispy crust, how much is this difference noticeable? The ZP2000 does not have a French dough baking function, what is it and how valuable is it? ZB2502BTS is outdated as a model?

Thank you for your responses.

S_V
2502 I have since its release and have never regretted it. has long excluded thermophilic yeast. The oven does an excellent job with pressed and wild leavened dough.
$ vetLana
Quote: kirillk
delayed baking
The process looks like this: all the ingredients are put in the order that the manufacturer recommends, for Panasonic it is: at the bottom - dry, i.e. yeast, flour, liquid on top. Then the program is selected and the timer is set for the time you need. This applies to models without a yeast dispenser. In the model with a yeast dispenser, yeast is loaded into the dispenser.
Quote: kirillk
because dough with added yeast can go bad without a refrigerator
The stove starts the program taking into account the timer. For example, the program lasts 4 hours, and you have set the timer for 9 hours. This means that the program will start 4 hours before the end of the specified time, that is, there will be 4 hours for the timer. Only during the program will the dough appear, and before that, individual ingredients will simply lie in the bucket of the bread machine.
kirillk
How important is an accessory dispenser when using the overnight hold-down function? They say if you immediately add them to the total container - they can stick together and be distributed unevenly ...




which model would you recommend to choose ZP2000KTS or ZB2502BTS? I don't understand anything about them and I have never had a bread machine, I buy for a gift, tomorrow I need to make a choice, but I don't know what thanks for your answers!
sazalexter
Quote: S_V
long ago excluded thermophilic yeast
There are no such in nature, there are saccharomycetes, do not confuse a person with him now and so everything will get confused




kirillk, buy ZB2502BTS, or better SD-2501WTS / SD-2511 time-tested and without a yeast dispenser, which is not needed
mamusi
Quote: sazalexter
SD-2501WTS
Cool stove! I have such
Quote: sazalexter
SD-2511
Also wonderful, I would have bought it looking. Was not on sale at the right time.
Quote: kirillk
you cannot leave the bread maker unattended for delayed baked goods (to wake up in the morning and bread was waiting for you)
Can. We do that. In the book of recipes for the Stove and in the Instructions, all this is described
Good luck to you.
anna_k
I am a crooked, stupid.
My first was 2502, I didn’t like these dispensers. I barely washed off the oil. I didn't cook bread with additives. Actually, I played no more than a dozen times and put

Then I bought the ZP2000, and now we have a friendship with her. Basically I make the simplest basic bread. Deferral works great.
I cooked it several times with additives. There is a nuance, additives need to be thrown after a while. I usually set the timer and add how it works (the bread maker is on the balcony).
I also really like that the bread is small. Minus - that there are a lot of crumbs in crispy and as a result - much more cleaning)))

In general, love and love again, I adore her and am glad that I changed 2502 for her




The forum is inhabited mainly by girls who are just magicians and fairies in cooking. Don't give them any HP - a divine result will come out)))
mamusi
anna_k, Anya, I have 2501.
But I dream about this Taoya Krustinochka too!
Objectively, I don't need .... like! So 2501 suits me in everything.
But highly want...
And it was only just a couple of weeks that I bought it again .... 2501. (My first got into repair - after five years of work, the condenser sat down)
It was so urgent that there was no time to look for and wait for delivery!
A 2501 was available in the store. I took it so that the family would not go without bread ...

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