aynat
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Now I have only one thought for the home: an air conditioner. Which one is better to put. Apparently, life will be brighter and hotter every year.

Girls, let's start such a temka - I also really want to know more about air conditioners and split systems, and experienced people will share their experience with us.
Hope
I can endure the heat terribly, so I recently became the happy owner of an air conditioner. True, only one room out of three was installed, but life has become much easier. The husband was an ardent opponent of this device, now he is blissful and says that next year it is necessary to put it somewhere else. And now the prices bite a lot. A day after ordering, my conder with the installation went up by 7000 rubles. Yesterday Moscow was very smoky, my mother and I tightly closed all the windows and turned on the air conditioner to the fullest. The day went well.
Alexandra
Girls, tell me, is it true that you need permission from the engineering service to install an air conditioning system? and then what is fined for redevelopment? My husband read somewhere ...
Hope
Alexandra
Permission is certainly needed, but who is thinking about it now. It takes at least two months to collect a bunch of installation certificates. In the spring, they suggested on TV to everyone who installed it without permission to legitimize this case. Of course, they can be fined, but when it's so hot you don't think about it.
By the way, you can read about this:
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celfh
Girls, thank you all for your sympathy and kind words!

Quote: Alexandra

Girls, tell me, is it true that you need permission from the engineering service to install an air conditioning system? and then what is fined for redevelopment? My husband read somewhere ...
Any hole in the load-bearing wall is a redevelopment. But I think architecture will get tired of walking around and calculating all unregistered air conditioners.

Quote: Hope

recently became the happy owner of the air conditioner.
Congratulations sincerely!
I watched air conditioners for half a day yesterday. And, as it turned out, I have a problem - there is no false ceiling. Found ceiling-wall. But their price is like a small plane, and the power is no less. That is, for small apartments, this is too much. Of course, we need to raise subcontractors, such issues need to be resolved with professionals.

Girls, let's start such a temka - I also really want to know more about air conditioners and split systems, and experienced people will share their experience with us.

Now I will ask the moderators to postpone all our posts about air conditioners.
aynat
Quote: Hope


Permission is certainly needed, but who is thinking about it now. It takes at least two months to collect a bunch of installation certificates.

What a horror! I never even thought about it ...
NatalyaN
Quote: celfh

... I watched air conditioners for half a day yesterday. And, as it turned out, I have a problem - there is no false ceiling. Found ceiling-wall. But they have a price like a small plane, and their power is no less ...

Why do you need a ceiling?
celfh
I don't need a ceiling one at all. But I found these: wall-ceiling.
NatalyaN, what advice do you have?
Hope
I have this:
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I'm happy so far. True, when buying, I asked the seller about whether it was possible to control the direction of the air flow. He, apparently having read the description, said that it is possible. However, with this model it is practically impossible to adjust the vertical direction of the air flow. In principle, there is an adjustment, but only a little higher or lower, and this is not enough for me. I saw a friend's air conditioner, in which it was possible to direct the flow upward, and, being under it, you do not get under the blowing.
But we placed ours quite well, and this does not bother us much now.
But in my model, the air purity patrol works very cool: if someone spoils the air in the room (for example, perfume or something else), the ionizer immediately turns on and begins to clean the atmosphere. If bread is baked in the kitchen, the reaction is the same.
NatalyaN
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... I saw a friend's air conditioner, in which it was possible to direct the flow upward, and, being under it, you do not get blown ...
Could you find out what model your friend has?
LenaV07
Alexandra
Purely theoretically, permission must be obtained, as well as for the glazing of loggias and balconies, the installation of "plates" -antennas ... But practically no one does this ... And then everything depends on the degree of insanity of the local authorities. In Kiev, they tried to fight the air conditioners, forced the janitors to walk and rewrite the apartments in which the air conditioners were installed, but everything seemed to have died out. We generally have silence on this matter ...
Hope
Quote: NatalyaN

Could you find out what model your friend has?
Unfortunately, I can not contact her yet. She left for a long time, and the model is unlikely to remember. I just know that it was a conder of the company: Mitsubishi Electric. But they are very expensive.
LenaV07 In Moscow, I also remember, once upon a time, walking and rewriting glazed balconies. On this, everything calmed down.
NatalyaN
Quote: Hope

Unfortunately, I can not contact her yet. She left for a long time, and the model is unlikely to remember. I just know that it was a conder of the company: Mitsubishi Electric. But they are very expensive.
LenaV07 In Moscow, I also remember, once upon a time, walking and rewriting glazed balconies. On this, everything calmed down.

Well then, of course, I can't afford such. Daikin and Mitsubishi are a class of elite kondishin. I settled on a "simple" Ski.
NatalyaN
Quote: celfh

NatalyaN, what advice do you have?


you asked the one who does not have it.
Well, but seriously, I certainly chose for myself, though I haven't bought it yet - my model is not in the city yet.

Personally, I chose for a long time, there were many criteria for choosing.
For starters, I feel very bad air coming out of the air conditioner. In my parents' house, we stopped turning it on altogether, although my mother regularly cleans the filter, but my throat immediately begins to have a sore throat and generally unpleasant sensations. It's hard for me to go to shops, small stalls equipped with air conditioning - from the flow of air, if you get under the stream, you can't hide, but you need to get in line
Then many have air conditioners, both cheap and expensive, but nowhere for me it was not comfortable be. Until I visited a friend's house, where even 18 - 20 degrees was calmly transferred, this is at 40 on the street (note, an impermissible drop). I did not experience any unpleasant sensations, dryness, irritation. It was just COMFORTABLE to be there!
By the way, a friend also noticed that this is the most comfortable air conditioner from those under which she "lives". She has a split system from Panasonic in another city (not cheap), her parents also have it, though I don't remember the brand, but it's not simple either.
Well, I’m probably describing for a very long time ...
In general, a friend has air conditioning LG A 12 LHM... The air is distributed in three directions. this is great.
True, I do not need such a powerful and expensive one, 9 will go, but, unfortunately, there are no such people in the city now, and it seems in Ukraine too. No lie, there is one, but bright red, but I can't buy such a color for such a price - it's in my kitchen at all does not fit into any.
Crystal
We bought ourselves 3 years ago Mitsubishi SRK35ZG-S - very happy with his work! I highly recommend it!

Air conditioners
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The question of money is cheap or expensive
But you should also pay attention to the principle of operation of the air conditioner, how it is cleaned, the filter system, spare filters and much more ...

I have experience of "sitting and lying" under air conditioning even in Moscow.
Filters are weak, it is often necessary to change, and this does not help, since there is a smell of dust in the room and a layer of dust also falls on the surface of the furniture while it is working.
And on the one hand it turns out good from the coolness, on the other hand it is necessary to open the door, because there is nothing to breathe.
So I stopped using the air conditioner ...

Now I'm also starting to look for a new air conditioner, but now I'm looking through all the pros and cons, the principle of operation, cleaning, ozonation, etc.
What I suggest you do - first read all about them, read the forums and reviews

celfh
Quote: NatalyaN

bright red, but I can't buy such a color for such a price - it's in my kitchen at all does not fit into any.
I've already rummaged everywhere, found it in Vladimir, but ... a mirror. I also don't need a mirror. And our prices vary somewhat. on Ukrainian sites - $ 500-520, we have $ 700-800. And the installation of the order of $ 250 / Reviews on this conditioners are positive. The view is also very good. I just can't figure out which three sides it blows.
NatalyaN
Quote: celfh

I just can't figure out which three sides it blows.
Down and sideways.
celfh
Quote: Crystal

We bought ourselves 3 years ago Mitsubishi SRK35ZG-S - very happy with his work! I highly recommend it!
Crystal, and how is it attached? I got the impression that this type of air conditioner needs suspended ceilings.
And what streams does the air come from? We have a similar shape at work. It works almost silently, has been working well for 5 years, but one employee constantly wraps herself in a shawl, wherever we direct the flow. She constantly complains.

Quote: Admin

What I suggest you do - first read all about them, read the forums and reviews
Yes, I have been doing this for three days. You should look for reviews not on sales sites, but on forums.
lina
Mitsubishi Electric MSC-GA20VB (sort of like that).
Hangs overhead above the bed, flaps up, the speed is lower - and sleep so well Doesn't blow on the bed. If the flaps are lowered, then it blows, of course. If you set the temperature lower, the bedroom will be cold, but the kitchen will be fine. This is not relevant for you now, of course - but up to -15 C you can turn it on for warming up. From warming up, it’s stuffy to me until I can’t, well, we heat it for an hour, for 10 minutes the window - and it's good, it's warm and not stuffy. This is when it is cold and wet outside, but there is no heating, and the apartment is not damp, and you can dry the linen under air conditioning))).
NatalyaN
Mitsubishi Electric MSC-GA20VB - everything is fine, but the price of 900 bucks is scary.
lina
NatalyaN
sometimes large equipment can be caught for a share for a reasonable price. out of season they took it for the action, it was quite acceptable))) and it was a long time ago))))
LenaV07
I have two air conditioners, one split and one multisplit. Split Mitsubishi, and multisplit Rainford. I do not write letters-numbers, because they are old and now there are more interesting models. Mitsubishi is considered a good company, I don't even know anything about Rainford, it got it for the occasion ... Mitsubishi hangs in the bedroom on the side of the headboard, the blinds are directed upward as much as possible, and the grilles that regulate the air flow to the right and left are adjusted so that on the bed did not blow. The truth is blowing on the windowsill with flowers, so I draw the curtains, trying to protect the flowers from the wind. Some models have a "sleep" mode, this is convenient so as not to overcool the room by morning. In this case, the main thing is without fanaticism, I have had Conder for 4 years and pah-pah-pah without colds or, God forbid, pneumonia. Now I have set t 23-24 * C.
And I want to share the experience of my friend, who bought a powerful air conditioner and installed it in the corridor. Thanks to this, a normal temperature is created in the rooms and there is no threat to catch a cold, and the noise interferes with sleep less.
And I would now install ArtCool. I like that the airflow comes out from the side and bottom. The main thing is not to blow on a sleeping place.
LenaV07
As for the purchase, of course you need to buy air conditioners in winter or at the very beginning of spring, that is, before the start of the season. In winter it is even better, firstly, the price is lower, and secondly, with the current climate, the season can start suddenly early. Now it makes no sense to buy, the price peak, but the summer is still over. Longer endured ... Yes, still such a moment, the installation is carried out at a temperature not lower than + 5 * C. We bought an air conditioner, and installed it after a while, when it got warmer outside.
Crystal
celfh Mount on the wall. Adjustable flows - up-down and right-left, or fan-shaped on the sides (180 degrees). We basically don't set a specific temperature, but the cooling function is -1-2 degrees lower than in the room - a great function.
aynat
Quote: Admin

The question of money is cheap or expensive
But you should also pay attention to the principle of operation of the air conditioner, how it is cleaned, the filter system, spare filters and much more ...

Now I'm also starting to look for a new air conditioner, but now I'm looking through all the pros and cons, the principle of operation, cleaning, ozonation, etc.
What I suggest you do - first read all about them, read the forums and reviews

So you can only choose when you already have experience in using air conditioners, but for me it is such a dark forest. This is so in everything - until you use your pens - you don't understand how convenient it is. I got such doors / 10pcs / in the apartment - they look beautiful, but in each of them there are 9 windows that need to be washed and around them, it would be better if there were simple doors ...

What kind of pitfalls are there when choosing / installing an air conditioner (split system)?
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Quote: aynat

What kind of pitfalls are there when choosing / installing an air conditioner (split system)?

Well, for a start, I found such information, especially for those who are faced with the problem of installing an air conditioner for the first time.
And then we will go into development ... So with joint efforts we will find what we are looking for

How Do I Pick a Good Conditioner?
There is no single answer to your question, and there cannot be a single answer, since the number of different air conditioners is very large. As large as the number of different types of premises that require air conditioning systems. Low-power air conditioners are suitable for houses and apartments, for offices, industrial premises, shops - they use a completely different technique. It is clear that those air conditioners whose manufacturer has a good reputation, and whose price is justified, will be good.
Do not try to buy an air conditioner as cheaply as possible, the price determines the quality, it is impossible to argue with this.

So, you are a Customer and want to buy an air conditioner in Kiev. The first thing you will inevitably face will be a huge number of offers from a huge number of small, medium and large climate companies that sell air conditioners. Offers are everywhere - in newspapers, in magazines and on the Internet. How to choose and from whom to buy?

The most reliable way to buy a device so necessary in the heat is to use the recommendation of your acquaintances, friends, colleagues, who have already been air-conditioned. But what if the recommendations are bad or none at all?

First step.
We select the required refrigeration capacity of the split system.

In order for the air conditioner to suit you as an ordinary device, it is not enough just to buy it, they are different in power and for each separate room it is calculated according to the power, the so-called "cooling capacity".

How to do it? After all, you just need it to work properly, and you are not going to become a specialist in the selection of refrigeration equipment for this! On the Internet, and on our portal, there is a calculation of the required capacity of the air conditioner.

When calculating, do not forget that different calculation programs always give different results. Take the arithmetic mean. But it's better all the same trust specialists... It will be correct if you call the climate company and ask for a telephone consultation.

What should the consultant ask you about:
* The footage of the room and the height of the room.
* At what boundary temperature of the outside air, what temperature in the room in which your air conditioner will operate do you want? (that is, let's say you want at + 32 C outside the window, you certainly want your room to have +20 C, which is usual for you and not higher - you should tell about this, since this is the data for calculation and Your wish).
* Availability of windows, their footage, type of windows, whether there are blinds or curtains.
* Cardinal points. (you may have already noticed that in a room that faces north with a wall and windows is not as hot as in the same one, but only with a wall and windows facing south)
* Availability of heat-generating equipment. (if you have a refrigerator, TV, computer in your room, then these devices emit some heat).
* Estimated number of people in the room.(if you often have friendly meetings in the living room on hot August days and you want them to take place in a cool room, you should also inform the consultant about this number).
* Construction of premises and number of storeys. (the constructive means the type of walls (concrete, brick, etc.) and its thickness, whether there is thermal insulation of the facade or not, there are more floors on top or just a roof).

If a consultant by phone simply asks you about the number of square meters of premises and this is enough for him to select, then our advice to you - there are other companies in the directory, call further. The final telephone response from the consultant is the required cooling capacity, expressed in kilowatts (kW). What was required to find!

Step two.
Which brand to choose?

For every person who wants to buy any useful device, one of the important questions will be the cost of this pleasure.
We will divide air conditioners into three categories by cost:
* cheap
* average
* expensive
And we will try to analyze them according to other criteria and purpose.
Cheap - these are mainly split systems with a cost of up to $ 300. e. It is not difficult to guess what such air conditioners are doing in China at best.
Such air conditioners, according to our personal experience, resemble a bit of a lottery - three installed split systems are working, two others are also working, but have already been repaired, and one system does not work and is waiting for a replacement for the same and it is not clear whether it will work later

Air conditioners have an undeniable plus - they are cheap. And if you are going to move into a rented office for only a year or two and you do not want to buy an expensive system at all, then you can stop at this option.

It is worth choosing a climate company that has been selling for several years and, most importantly, when choosing such an air conditioner, service. That is, if you clearly know that such a company has a service department, there is everything to fix the purchased air conditioner, they give a guarantee (usually 1 year) for normal operation, buy it!

Average by price - these are mainly air conditioners ranging from 400 to 600 cu. e. Such air conditioners are usually quite reliable. Almost all air conditioners are equipped with a wide range of useful functions, such as timer, sleep mode and others. The percentage of factory defects is present, but what is ideal and constant in our world? The warranty for them is from one to three years, depending on the manufacturer.
If you just need a super design device for cooling air for a long time without special expensive frills, feel free to stop at it. In terms of quality, these air conditioners are almost as good as expensive ones - all the differences lie in simplified systems of protection against misuse and a slightly shorter service life.

If you do not strive to get the best, but are simply practical and want to have a fairly reliable air conditioner with an optimal price-quality ratio, then the middle class air conditioners will be the best choice.

Expensive air conditioners - price range from 600 USD e. and above. Elite air conditioners are mainly brands such as Daikin, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Fujitsu General, etc. For this money, the buyer receives a split system with the following advantages:
* High reliability and durability. During the warranty period, factory defects are found in no more than 0.1% of the equipment
* Have "smart" systems of protection against misuse. They are equipped with self-diagnosis and protection devices that shut down the system in the event of improper use, overload or in the event of another dangerous situation. (if, for example, a careless office manager tries to turn on the split system in winter at minus 20 outside the window to "warm up", it will simply turn off)
* Quiet operation
* Stable operation in a wide temperature range (for example, Daikin operates in the range from -30 ° C (optional) to + 45 ° C).
* Modern design and small dimensions.
Why do people buy expensive air conditioners when there are average prices? It is possible, in principle, to draw an analogy between air conditioners and cars. And you can ride a VAZ, but not with such comfort as a Mercedes.
In any case, when choosing an air conditioner manufacturer and which one to buy, the decision is up to you!

Step three.
Where to buy the air conditioner?

We have already decided on the capacity that we need and on the brand. This means that we need to find, in fact, a company that will bring and install such a device we need.

We take the telephone directory, select the section of climatic firms and call. We pay attention to such things - the culture of speech, the literacy of the consultation, the ability to clearly explain to you the cost of installation in Kiev.

You can ask about the principle of operation of the split system, where does the cooled air come from - if the manager cannot explain to you the principle of operation of the refrigeration device, then this is a very sad fact.

The cost of installation is different for different companies, and you, who are uninitiated in the intricacies of installing climate control equipment, should not forget that as the air conditioning system is installed, it will work.

Fourth step.
You have decided on the price and place where you want to buy a split system - what next?
A specialist should come to your place and determine, together with you, where the equipment will be installed, and guide you on the final cost of installation, depending on its complexity.

In many companies, a prerequisite is the installation diagram drawn up by the company, and your signature under it.

Read it and, if you agree and everything suits you, sign it. But do not forget that if later you suddenly wanted to hang the outdoor unit no longer near this window, but a meter further, then you will have to warn the company's manager about such a decision in advance, since the scheme was given to the installation team, and they will install it according to this scheme approved by you. So be attentive to the manager's questions and suggestions regarding the location of the split system.

Installation time.
Each HVAC company has work schedules, and, unfortunately for you, you are not the only customer who urgently needs to install an air conditioning system. If you are their only customer, then you should think about what kind of company it is?

The normal installation time is from one to three days after payment, sometimes more if it is high season, but not more than a week. You will be assigned a day to expect the assembly team to arrive. Clearly ask to call back if you cannot arrive on that particular day. A self-respecting company must do it itself.

When choosing the right climate company, you can be guided by the simple feeling that you, as a client, are valued. It is no secret that the goal of any company is profit. You can place ads for an infinitely long time, make money on one-time orders, indulgently treat small orders, but lately more and more climate companies are paying attention to the European style of work so that the client will come again and again.

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HOW TO CLEAN THE AIR CONDITIONER YOURSELF
Why clean your air conditioner?

1. There will be a smell from the air conditioner.
2. Bacteria living in a humid environment inside will multiply.
3. If water drips from the indoor unit of the air conditioner, then, apparently, the drain pipe is clogged.
4. It will start to make noise, crackle, filters will turn black.

In general, the air conditioner will show its dissatisfaction in every possible way.
The cleaning procedure is simple, I recommend doing it yourself.
How often? Depends on the dustiness of your premises. And for smokers there is also smoke. In general, start cleaning once a month, if there is a lot of dirt on the filters, then clean more often. If a little - less often. We have seen air conditioners in which the dust on the filters was not noticeable even after a whole year of operation. But these were rooms in which the air cleaner worked and did wet cleaning at the same time.

If the air conditioner emits an unpleasant odor. While your air conditioner filters are drying. You go to the pharmacy and buy liquid antiseptics or disinfectant solutions. Preferably alcohol-based, up to 0.5l. In stores, you can buy CONDICLEAN, which destroys all bacteria and viruses. Open the lid of the air conditioner, take out the dust nets, turn on the air conditioner at the lowest temperature and maximum air flow, and spray the antiseptic so that the spray is drawn into the honeycomb / plate radiator of the air conditioner cooler.
It will take a couple of minutes. After 10 minutes, the smell from the air conditioner will almost completely disappear.

After the filter is dry, only then put it back in. It is not recommended to operate the air conditioner without a filter, as it protects not only your lungs, but also the heat exchanger of the indoor unit. When the heat exchanger is dusty, the efficiency of the air conditioner decreases.

Do not forget about the condition of the outdoor unit. If its heat exchanger is clogged with dust, dirt and poplar fluff, the efficiency drops sharply, and the load on the compressor increases. It starts to warm up and may eventually fail.

If water drips from the indoor unit of the air conditioner, then the drain line appears to be clogged. The easiest and fastest way to temporarily solve this problem:
- If it is possible to get to the drainage of the air conditioner, you need to blow into the drainage pipe from which water used to drip onto the street or into the sewer and the plug should go away. Even if the plug is removed, then call a specialist to clean your air conditioner.
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Household air conditioners, types and scope

In our life, the health and well-being of people directly depends on the kind of air and microclimate that surrounds us. A favorable microclimate helps to create air conditioners, a huge assortment and different cost of air conditioners make it difficult for us in a very difficult matter. Therefore, we will try to understand the existing types of air conditioners, we will find those features that, as a rule, are behind the scenes of tempting advertising.

Depending on the purpose and setting of a particular room, there are different needs for maintaining fresh air in the room. It is better to blow garages with a strong flow of cool air, industrial precision air conditioners are used for these purposes, a low-noise air conditioner is best suited for bedrooms or a living room, an air conditioner is needed for offices that can make a comfortable environment for people, but also allow it to be combined with the design of the room.

Due to the different needs and configurations of air conditioners, for example, such as mobile air conditioners, split systems, duct, wall and floor-sub-ceiling, etc. There are peculiarities in the application, without which you cannot make the right choice of air conditioner for the desired room.

Monoblock conditioners

This type of air conditioners consists of one block in which all the necessary units of the air conditioner are combined, and are divided into two types, mobile and window. Mobile air conditioners are made in the form of a small mobile cabinet with a flexible hose that goes out of the window, and window air conditioners are attached directly to the window opening.

The main advantage of monoblock air conditioners is its low cost, ease of installation and connection. The disadvantages include the fact that they create a lot of noise and violate aesthetics in the room. But, noise is not so important for air conditioning, for example, telecommunications equipment, therefore, precision air conditioners are perfect for industrial ventilation, sometimes they are mounted in the middle of a ventilated technical room.

Split systems

This type of air conditioners also consists of two blocks, these are external and internal, interconnected by highways through which freon circulates. In these air conditioners, the noisy part is the compressor, which is located in the outdoor unit, so the noise level is not noticeable, and reaches a slight whisper.The outdoor unit is installed from the outside, that is, on the wall of the building, while the indoor unit is naturally installed indoors.

The advantage of split systems is, first of all, low noise level, ease of installation of the indoor unit, which can be placed in any convenient place, for example, on the ceiling, behind a false ceiling, on the wall. These air conditioners have a display and remote control, which is very convenient, and allows you to easily control the microclimate without going to the air conditioner itself. However, the installation of these air conditioners is not an easy task and must be done by a trained technician.

Wall mounted air conditioners

They are the most famous and widespread, and also inexpensive, mainly mounted on the wall of the room, have a power of about 2 - 7 kW, which allows you to create the desired climate in rooms ranging from 10 to 70 square meters. m. Such units are equipped with built-in blinds, which allows directing the air flow to the desired corners of the room.

Duct air conditioners

They are mounted behind a suspended, false ceiling, which allows you to completely hide the indoor unit behind the ceiling. The processed air is transmitted through the air ducts, also located behind the ceiling, one air conditioner can cool several rooms at once. The capacity of these air conditioners is 10 - 25 kW, which allows cooling up to 100 - 250 sq. m. area.

The advantage of such air conditioners is the need for cold, which covers all costs, allowing you to save on the purchase and installation of several less powerful split systems. The only thing is that duct air conditioners can be used only in those rooms where there is a suspended ceiling requiring the laying of air distribution communications.

Cassette air conditioners

They are also installed behind a false ceiling, and the air supply is from top to bottom. The lower grille has the same design as the false ceiling and is combined with the interior of the room. Louvers allow you to direct the air flow evenly over all parts of the room and this arrangement of the air conditioner will be more efficient than a hanging air conditioner on the wall.

The main advantage is the uniform distribution of the air flow, which makes it possible to serve a hall or one room with the help of one cassette air conditioner; they require a suspended ceiling and installation of air distribution communications.
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types of air conditioners, split systems

A window air conditioner or otherwise a monoblock air conditioner, which is placed in a window opening or mounted on a thin wall, unlike split systems, a monoblock air conditioner has some disadvantages, for example, an increased noise level, the impossibility of installing it due to the lack of a suitable place, reduces the illumination in the room ...

Wall split system

Given the low cost, window air conditioners still have their own purpose, especially in our country and are usually used for air conditioning of trade pavilions and various institutions. However, window air conditioners are increasingly giving way to split systems over time.

Split systems are made of an outdoor and indoor unit, which can only be one. They have a number of advantages, these are high efficiency, low noise level, ease of installation due to the choice of location for the indoor unit, which are wall, cassette, ceiling, column, duct, floor, where the indoor unit can be mounted both in the floor position and in ceiling.

Cassette split system

In general, indoor units that are installed on the wall are very popular. And as a rule, it accounts for about 80 percent of all split systems sold, which is explained for two reasons.
# low cost among other split systems
# more convenient power range, which is from 1.8 to 3.5 kW

Split systems of cassette and duct type require a suspended ceiling for their installation, have a significantly high power and are suitable mainly for rooms of not small size.The main advantage is that they have the ability to mix fresh air from the street.

Column split system

Floor or ceiling split systems are mainly used where there is no possibility of installing a wall-type system, as well as the absence of a suspended ceiling, for example, in shops with a huge glazing area, or in large rooms where walls and ceilings cannot be touched, theaters, restaurants, etc.

If there is more than one indoor unit, such a split system is called a multisplit system, which can have from two to four, or even five indoor units installed on the wall, there are also multisplit systems with indoor units, for example, duct, floor, cassette and ceiling type, or using different types.

Air cooled chiller, outdoor

The main advantage of multi-split systems is the reduction in the number of outdoor units in order to preserve the appearance of the building. Therefore, there are special mobile air conditioners, which are divided into two groups. The first is that mobile air conditioners are connected to each other by flexible corrugated hoses, which are sometimes brought out through the window. Only through this window does warm air from the street get in, so you have to put special plugs in the window frames. In winter, the plugs are closed and the air conditioner works as a simple fan heater.

Indoor Water Cooled Condensate Chiller

Mobile split systems have an internal and external unit, which are interconnected by a flexible hose, in which freon tubes and electrical wires are located. According to the principle of operation of this air conditioner, there are no differences as in conventional split systems, only that mobile air conditioners do not need special installation.

A chiller is a water-cooling system, which is a very important part of the entire central air conditioning system, so one such air conditioner can cool very large rooms.

Fan coil units resemble internal blocks of split systems, only for fan coil units there is a chiller water cooling machine, and ordinary water is used instead of freon. A fan coil system with a boiler or chiller can be used as heating.

Central air conditioner

Its main function is to purify previously heated or cooled air from the street, entering the premises using special air ducts. And the central air conditioner uses water supplied from the chiller to cool the air. In large rooms, chiller-fan coil systems are most often used.
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Comfortable climate of Daikin air conditioners

* Inverter technology in Daikin air conditioners
* Various air distribution patterns
* Priority room selection
* Increased performance (Powerful)
* Air dehumidification mode
* Accounting for weather conditions (PMV function)

Daikin cares about your health

* Multi-stage air purifying system (Air Purifying)
* Air filter with anti-mold treatment
* Quiet operation of Daikin air conditioners
* Comfortable sleep mode
* Warm start of Daikin air conditioners (Hot Start)
* Antibacterial surface of the remote control
* Night power saving function
* Fan speed control

Convenient control of Daikin air conditioners

* One touch control of DAIKIN air conditioner
* DAIKIN motion presence sensor
* "No one is at home" mode
* Automatic selection of DAIKIN air conditioner mode
* Timer operation
* Air conditioner self-diagnosis function
* Microprocessor control
* Variety of control panels for DAIKIN air conditioners
* Multiparameterization
* Centralized control from a universal graphics controller
* Centralized control from the processor unit

The economy of Daikin air conditioners

* Energy saving technology
* Using Daikin air conditioners as part of a multi-split system
* Ultra-efficient inverter of Daikin air conditioners (Sky Super Inverter)
* Economical fan of Daikin air conditioner outdoor unit
* Modern Daikin compressor design
* Daikin compressor magneto-electric motor
* Economical outdoor unit condenser with collector

Reliability of Daikin air conditioners

* Automatic restart of Daikin air conditioners
* Protection of the air conditioner from extreme temperatures
* Anti-corrosion protection of the outdoor unit of Daikin air conditioners
* Automatic defrosting of frost from the external unit of Daikin air conditioners
* Control of correct connection of Daikin multisplit system

The versatility of Daikin air conditioners

* Variety of indoor units for Daikin air conditioners
* Choice of external unit of Daikin air conditioner
* Air conditioner design
* Layout of Daikin multisplit systems
* Adaptation of Daikin air conditioners to winter conditions

Daikin air conditioners are easy to maintain

* Detachable faceplate
* Prevent Ceiling Contamination - Ceiling Air Conditioners
* Forced condensate drain

Kalmykova
There are 2 types of air conditioners: conventional and inverter. I don’t understand anything about this, but I know that inverter ones are more economical. I have 3 inverter Mitsubishi and one regular LG Arkul (square). The husband says that Artkul uses more electricity. Cool everything down perfectly! And at work, I put the Chinese Medea - I immediately realized that good is not cheap.
TaTa *
So many tips and tricks are already scary
In fact, everything is simple - everyone buys with their own money, like any other technique. Of course a Mercedes is better than a Lada. But it is better to have a Lada than nothing.
Therefore, whoever is forced to count money can safely buy an inexpensive Chinese
(I bought Cooper & Hunter). They work great, you can live in the apartment
Someone wrote about the dust from the con-ra, try to clean it in the room, the con-r does not produce dust. And it should not sore throat from it, most likely the room has not been ventilated for a long time, the cool air creates a false feeling of freshness, so people forget to ventilate. The con-r itself does not affect the air quality, and the filters must be washed as in a vacuum cleaner (for example).
musyanya
After the children stopped eating during the week of torment by the heat, and the little one covered 80% of the body surface with prickly heat, we ran to the store and bought the simplest LG air conditioner available at that time (G09LHKS4S3). He looks ugly to put it mildly, does not know how to blow into the ceiling and just below the ceiling - even the highest position of the flaps gives a stream of air that falls on a sleeping person.
These are probably all the disadvantages.
Pros. After installation, an oasis for a comfortable life appeared. It cools very well, and covers another 6 meter corridor. The hot walls quickly cooled down, at night we turned it off so that it would not blow on us. It seems to me that it works quite quietly. For a month now I can safely cook, bake, it is not hot in the apartment now. Parents-retirees, too, looking at us bought themselves exactly the same. After one day of training on switching on and off, they quickly mastered this unit and now use it without difficulty. In our city, most of all skis hang, in the second and third places are chigo, medea, then samsungs, gris. All other varieties (daikin, mitsubishi, Panasonic, electric suites) are presented in smaller quantities, even in elite houses there are few of them.

Elenka
I read about Daikin and realized that my LG has the same advantages (there are probably some differences). The only negative is the expensive freon in it. Flew away last year - refueling was expensive. And we bought it 2 years ago from a warehouse for 500u. e. - 12.
Zest
Eh ... I can stand the heat normally, without excesses. At a temperature of 35 * overboard, I can safely turn on the oven and bake bread. Well, it will drip from me, but without undue stress.

She was the brightest opponent of installing an air conditioner in the house.However, even at the beginning of this summer, I felt that the case smells like fried ... they managed to establish even before the general gouging of prices.

Now - babble. I don't abuse kondishka. I turn it on at night. At 5 in the morning the cat wakes up - he urgently needs it for cat matters, I turn off the air conditioner, open the window. When I return in the evening, I turn it on again. That's how we live. It is quite tolerable.

And the sea under an umbrella at the very edge of the sea is very good, one might say - cool. You go up to the city, again you all expire. But these are all small things compared to your fires

I watch the news and my heart bleeds. And with my mind I cannot understand such losses ... I will not tell you what should have been done, but after all, all this disaster could have been minimized
Hope
And we managed to install the air conditioner 10 days ago, when there was still no smoke. I can't even imagine how we would have done without him now: I can hardly stand the heat, and my mother is already 80 years old, it is even more difficult for her now.
Zest
Quote: Omela

I was afraid of "eternal snot".

Oh well bo. I was afraid of that too. Nothing like this. I turn it on at 25 *, enough with my head. And no snot or colds for you. The main thing here is not to go to extremes.
Mila007
Omela , sun, I had an outdoor, portable ... It was not very cold ... I do not advise ... But maybe I got it so ... I don't remember the company ... I just know that I won't buy this anymore .. ...
prascovia
And I had a floor air conditioner. Under it you need to make a hole in the window. They turned on a couple of times - the noise from it was much more than cool.
fugaska
we had an outdoor one, or rather there is one, only in the garage - there is enough split for our one-room apartment, and at first we put it in the balcony opening and covered the rest of the hole with a curtain. in short, they heated the street! but in our apartment it was just fine! so the floor is different ...
lina
Quote: Omela

I was afraid of "eternal snot". And now I think it's better to suffer from snot than suffocate!
I would be afraid not so much for snot as for the neck. air conditioned at home, air conditioned in the car.
if you do not lie in a room with air conditioning - 16-18C and the remote control is right at the entrance to the room. if you lie down - the flaps are up, the speed is lower, 18-21 C (the doors are always open). Iron - excuse me, anyway blows in the back and neck, turn off the air conditioning. In the car, 18-21 C, the side ones are directed to the glass, the front ones are covered and weakly blow. Accordingly, the interior is cooled, but at the same time it does not blow me. Therefore, IMHO - "eternal snot" for those who direct the cold stream on themselves or who are unlucky with a workplace in the office.
celfh
Today came across recommendations for protection from smog
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And in particular, I was very interested in the phrase:
During peak smoke hours, do not use the air conditioner, unless it is equipped with special filters (HEPA type).
By cooling the air, air conditioners create negative pressure, which leads to the suction of smoke into the house, where it accumulates so that there is more suspended matter inside than outside. If you have HEPA conditioners, you are very lucky!

Who knows what HEPA is? And in which conduits is she (it, he?)?
Of course, I will try to look for what it is.
Elenka
Almost all vacuum cleaners now have nera filters. You can open, see. (Just kidding.)
I think that this is nothing more than a publicity stunt of one company in front of others.
Zhivchik
Quote: prascovia

And I had a floor air conditioner. Under it you need to make a hole in the window. They turned on a couple of times - the noise from it was much more than cool.
Since we live on the ground floor and you can't put an air conditioner outside the street, we wanted to buy such a NIKVER NV-100 Air Harvester for $ 312
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I called the dealership. She asked if the humidifier could be turned off. I was told yes. And then this harvester will work like a fan.
I also asked about the noise. She told the girls that she was not making a lot of noise. And she has such a harvester in the room where her 3-year-old daughter is sleeping. And in addition she asked: "Do you think he makes a lot of noise?"
Excuse me, but a 3-year-old child is noisy there or not if he wants to sleep.
celfh
Quote: Elenka69

Almost all vacuum cleaners now have nera filters.
Oh how!
And in air conditioners?
Elenka
This I mean that there is nothing of the kind in this filter, it may turn out to be some kind of synthetic rag.
prascovia
Tan! I was making a lot of noise, so we first cooled the room, and then turned it off and went to bed. There was enough coolness for an hour. But my unit is almost bezorodny and was purchased 4 years ago. Maybe you've come up with something new now?
Hope
We, who live on the first floor, put the condender in a special protective box so that they probably don't get stolen.

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