Problem situations in the operation of dishwashers

Good afternoon!

I have very little experience in operating PMM - only 2 months. Siemens model SN25M280EU. As usual in such cases, all of mine are not happy about such an acquisition. But that's not the point.

During this time of operation, I encountered two situations, let's say, that puzzled me.

First: unauthorized filling of dishes with water during the washing process.

Somehow I decided, among other things, to wash a metal kettle in the PMM. And since the lid of my kettle is very tightly inserted into it, I decided not to turn it upside down, so I put it with a tightly closed lid on the lower compartment. The preliminary rinsing seemed to have passed without problems, but at the stage of washing with powder, I began to notice an increased level of "grunting" inside the PMM. Since the mode was automatic, which did not let us down before, but it often worked differently by ear (depending on the filling and contamination of the dishes), I just shrugged my shoulders and decided to wait until the end of the wash. At the stage of rinsing, "grunting", to put it mildly, did not decrease. After the completion of the process, it turned out that water had leaked into the kettle in an unknown way (as I understand it, gradually, at all stages of washing), somewhere in the volume of 1.5 liters. The conclusion was the following: the dishwasher is filled with water by a sensor that only works at the filling stage. In work, such a sensor cannot feel a lack of water, and I can’t imagine how it would be practically possible when everything is in the process of the water cycle. If part of the water is removed from such a cycle, the pump does not receive the required water level, and spits out with increased noise what has managed to reach it. I suppose that such "half-idle" work for the pump does not help to prolong its life, that is, it is simply harmful.
The second time I faced the same situation literally every other day. The familiar "grunt" made me open the door and make sure that somehow one of the voluminous vessels had turned over and was completely filled with water.
After such cases, I gently asked my household to set the dishes in the PMM more reliably.

Second: a crash in the program due to a power surge.

Once I loaded the PMM with glass parts of the chandelier, turned it on in the glass washing mode, 45C. During washing, the mains voltage jumped strongly, in the stabilizer supplying my PMM, the relay actively clicked, switching the transformer windings. At the end of the wash time, when the time was at 00:00, the dishwasher continued to actively make noise and hiss. After waiting another two minutes, I could not resist, and opened the door, after which hot steam poured out of it. Previously, this did not happen to her in this mode. I can't imagine anything other than a program crash from power surges. Complete de-energization of the PMM returned it to its normal state.
And if it happened at night, on the timer? Although, at night, usually, the tension does not jump. By the way, the chandelier then washed off perfectly ...

Perhaps you also had any similar problems with the operation of PMM, not related to equipment failure?

Well, my plastic containers are regularly filled with water. I did not notice any suspicious sound

There were no problems, only some interesting moments opened up ...

Soap two plastic thermos, which have a non-separable design. True, they most likely understand, but I decided not to risk it - the flasks in them are glass and as thermoses they serve me for many years and keep warm well. So, there was water in them between the flask and the body.I shook it out for a long time ...

Sometimes aluminum dishes are too lazy to wash by hand.So she also behaves differently - something darkens, something does not.

I have at least two options for problem situations in my compact PMM.
1. One rocker, located at the bottom. Sometimes a piece of washable dishes can get caught between the grates and lock the rocker arm. The last time it was a long time ago, so I cannot accurately describe the sound that occurs during this. Such a light howl.
2. Sometimes for some reason the container with the powder does not open. Nowadays, most often, if the dishwasher is filled with dishes too tightly, especially on the right side.
In general, if I know that there are "falling through" parts of the dishes in the PMM or there are too many of these dishes, I stop the machine, check everything and start working on.

Some time ago I bought it as if it were an environmentally friendly product for PMM, as it is written, "3 in 1".
He has a clearly increased foaming, so the car begins to howl. The sellers said that such an amount of foam is due to the fact that all the salt is not used, they say, the water softens too much (?). In general, in order not to ditch the machine ahead of time, I refused this tool.

Hello
I poured salt into the container for salt and forgot to close the container with the lid and turned on the dishwasher, after about three or four minutes I found it and turned off the machine and screwed the lid, but there was water in the container. Tell me this can somehow affect the dishwasher

Hello
I poured salt into the container for salt and forgot to close the container with the lid and turned on the dishwasher, after about three or four minutes I found it and turned off the machine and screwed the lid, but there was water in the container. Tell me this can somehow affect the dishwasher

It can very much even influence!

God knows what got to you from the dishes in this container. What is not powder is already good. But I recommend urgently, before the next dishwashing, with a large enema, and then with foam rubber, choose water and everything else from the salt container. Then pour clean water there, choose it too, and then finally add salt and water.
Otherwise, the ion exchanger can fly, and replacing it is an expensive pleasure ...

Shl. When filling in salt, I usually use a large enema to suck out some of the water so that the salt fits into the PMM workspace without the salt water flowing out.

Shl. When filling in salt, I usually use a large enema to suck out some of the water so that the salt fits into the PMM workspace without the salt water flowing out.

And I usually just run the rinse.

I noticed that dirt has accumulated in the dishwasher on hard-to-remove places. There are especially many on the side walls of the upper basket, that is, where there are rather big plastic fasteners and a mechanism for adjusting the basket in height. Well, around the door, too, the view is not very ... The very plane of the door is also not washed off with drips, or something. Washing at maximum temperature has no effect.
I saw bottles of dishwasher detergent in stores. Will it help or not?
Yes, I usually run the dishwasher on the hour mode (65 degrees). I rarely use long-term washing (more than 2 hours at 70 degrees). Maybe this is the reason?

(I washed it with my hands a couple of times. I don't want to ... how to automate the process, and even better to eliminate the cause of such contamination)

My dirt only accumulates on the door, along the very edge, where the door is pressed against the seal. Everything is clean inside. My almost always on a long program.

In my Ardo recently there was a glitch, there was a power surge, and she was just at the final stage of drying. So, I hear from another room that it signals the end of work and at the same time makes noise (apparently the pump was working), this has never happened. I looked - the 3 in 1 program light was blinking - it was not clear how the sink started in this program. Turned off, turned on - everything is ok.

[AlisaS]

AlisaS and anyone who can help with the answer. It is written in my PMM - every time to disconnect the PMM after washing dishes from the water supply.I don’t know how to do this, when the tap with water is behind my built-in machine and in order to disconnect the dishwasher from the water, you need to take out 2 cabinets, and before that, freeing them from the contents. This is quite troublesome. Do I need to disconnect the PMM from the water supply every time?

[AlisaS]

AlisaS and anyone who can help with the answer. It is written in my PMM - every time you disconnect the PMM after washing dishes from the water supply. I don’t know how to do this, when the tap with water is behind my built-in machine and in order to disconnect the dishwasher from the water, you need to take out 2 cabinets, and before that, freeing them from the contents. This is quite troublesome. Do I need to disconnect the PMM from the water supply every time?

Model this amazing hand-made creation in the studio, please ...

[AlisaS]

ARDO DWI 10 L 6 (which is why she turned to AlisaS first of all, because she also has Ardo). Well, on you, Kapet I also pin my hopes as an expert, help with advice

[AlisaS]

AlisaS and anyone who can help with the answer. It is written in my PMM - every time you disconnect the PMM after washing dishes from the water supply. I don’t know how to do this, when the tap with water is behind my built-in machine and in order to disconnect the dishwasher from the water, you need to take out 2 cabinets, and before that, freeing them from the contents. This is quite troublesome. Do I need to disconnect the PMM from the water supply every time?

I really don't have Ardo and the instructions don't say that, I never turn it off ... even when we leave. Why disable if they have aquastop.

Unfortunately, not all PMM models are equipped with the Aquastop system.

Unfortunately, not all PMM models are equipped with the Aquastop system.

Yes ? I thought that everything ...
Then you probably need to turn it off, otherwise you can flood the neighbors if that

It does not threaten my neighbors. They only live on the sides. Well, in the meantime, I do not disconnect my PMM from the water supply. Works. Although the Aquastop function would not hurt, but it is not in my assistant.

It does not threaten my neighbors. They only live on the sides. Well, in the meantime, I do not disconnect my PMM from the water supply. Works. Although the Aquastop function would not hurt, but it is not in my assistant.

If you believe the Internet, your dishwasher has the Aquasafe function, and this, if you believe the Internet,
"In the event of any leaks in the connecting hose, the Aquasafe shuts off the water supply from the tap."

If you believe the Internet, your dishwasher has the Aquasafe function, and this, if you believe the Internet,
"In the event of any leaks in the connecting hose, the Aquasafe shuts off the water supply from the tap."

And what is this Aquasafe, just Aqua-Stop blocks the water

[Sandy]

Sandy It can be called in different ways, it does not change the essence

I also had such an experience with the kettle, although this did not affect the dishwasher itself, and I noticed that the kettle was full when I took out the dishes after drying. I concluded that water leaked through the whistle of the kettle. Now I just open the kettle and put it upside down, the PMM at the same time rinses well inside it

[Sandy]

Sandy It can be called in different ways, it does not change the essence

In essence, it is clear that it does not change, just the name is not familiar, I would also read it in the instructions and did not immediately understand what it is, it turns out to be the same practically, the main thing is that there is no need to shut off the water

If you believe the Internet, your dishwasher has the Aquasafe function, and this, if you believe the Internet,
"In the event of any leaks in the connecting hose, the Aquasafe shuts off the water supply from the tap."

Many thanks, it turns out, there really is. It was all about a play on words - "AQUASAFE SYSTEM (LEAKAGE PROTECTION)

The entire range of ARDO dishwashers is equipped with an integrated safety system that prevents any potential damage caused by water leaks. In the event of any leaks inside the dishwasher, the Aquasafe system shuts off the water supply from the tap and, if necessary, drains the water. The Aquasafe system is always on, ensuring the safety of the appliance and the surroundings, even when the dishwasher is switched off. "

Hello everyone! Almost 2 months ago we bought our first ARDO dishwasher. At the first loading of the PMM, approximately 140 ml of Finish Rinse Aid was poured, as indicated in the instructions. When poured, they spilled a little into the car, but wiped everything off.So - all these 2 months, and we wash the dishes every day, in the PMM there is foam at the bottom and you have to run the car in a quick wash to rinse the dishes. I do not know what to do. I like the machine, it washes the dishes well, but this foam! Is this all due to spilled rinse aid? And how to get rid of it now? Hadn't he washed himself in so much time? Or is it some kind of malfunction in the car? By the way, the rinse aid indicator has been on for quite some time, but the foam continues to form. I use Finish powder as a detergent ... Help with advice. Thank you!

I often spill rinse aid (Domol), and then wipe it off, and there is no foam and there was no
Maybe you should change the rinse aid.

Reduce the rinse aid dosage.

There is no problem. And there was not. The instructions clearly state that it is recommended to open the PMM half an hour after the end of the wash cycle. During this time, the dishes dry up and the "foam bubbles" are blown off. And foam immediately after washing is the norm.

There is no problem. And there was not. The instructions clearly state that it is recommended to open the PMM half an hour after the end of the wash cycle. During this time, the dishes dry up and the "foam bubbles" are blown off. And foam immediately after washing is the norm.

I always open immediately, and there is no foam, and the dishes are dry and very hot.
My instructions do not say what to open in half an hour

In my city there is very soft water - 2 German degrees, a pack of salt is enough for 18 months, the consumption of rinse aid is at a minimum, and right after the end of the program, my daughter and I always have a little foam at the bottom of the PMM. I think it has something to do with the softness / hardness of the water and possibly an incorrectly adjusted overdose of rinse aid.

In my city there is very soft water - 2 German degrees, a pack of salt is enough for 18 months, the consumption of rinse aid is at a minimum, and right after the end of the program, my daughter and I always have a little foam at the bottom of the PMM. I think it has something to do with the softness / hardness of the water and possibly an incorrectly adjusted overdose of rinse aid.

It is quite possible, I have hard water, salt eats kapets how much and rinse aid rarely "asks"

In my city the water is very soft, I don’t remember how many degrees, for more than 8 years I have forgotten The salt is at a minimum, the rinse aid is at a minimum, there was never any foam, I open the PMM immediately. The dishes are hot and dry. True, I have a garbage can with a turbo dryer

Yulia, I have Ardo. The water is hard. I add rinse aid 1-2 times a month. But my PMM has not asked for salt since August. I’ll say that I didn’t like Finish powder, or rather the quality of washing. Dishes with a blue coating, cloudy. I use Somat Gel. Here I really like the "washing".

I am from Moscow, I don’t know what kind of water we have, in any case, it is not the same everywhere (from different reservoirs, different pipelines, etc.), I believe that the water is quite hard.
But now for the third year since I switched to 3/4/5/7 tablets in one - the same thing only "side view" ... So if my dishes are not very dirty and you can limit yourself to express washing, I use Italian tablets of the Auchan brand, sometimes some stains remain on the devices - I don't know what that means. But when the pots, baking trays and forms of fried-baked are terribly dirty and greasy, I use Finish tablets, and the result is unbeatable! Even on express programs.

I have another problem, can anyone know so that it could be:

Last month, my PMM began to knock out plugs, or rather it is included in the Pilot XL, which began to be cut down several times during the washing process and at the same time got very hot. The load on the network is even less than there was still some code, that is, when I turned on the PMM, I began to turn off all other equipment.
With what it can be connected??? It is very unpleasant, I even turned it off from the outlet now, I washed everything with my hands, and they began to crack terribly

You urgently to to the doctor electrician.

You urgently to to the doctor electrician.

An electrician or a service center? So communication with these SCs does not please ...

[all]

First, let a competent electrician take a look all, starting from the dashboard on the site and further along the apartment.

Change the pilot, most likely it's in him

Change the pilot, most likely it's in him

Once again I tell you - "Thank you!"
I bought a new pilot, as you advised, I connected everything, at the same time PMM and MV Bork were working on heating - everything is fine. Uraaaaaa !!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!

Good day! Tell me please, can anyone have it and how to solve this problem? My ppm is only a little over a month old, and a red bloom appeared on spoons and some plates. If you rub it with a napkin, it is erased and the spoons begin to shine. The water is very soft, salt 1, conditioner 2-3, wash powder 65 * and conditioner finish.

Girls and boys, I’m to you for help .... So I was glad to my assistant, which, apparently, I praised it.From the very beginning, she just perfectly washed glass - glasses, glasses - like from a glass factory, transparent plates donated by my sister - a feast for the eyes, she has at the very same, so you have to wipe them thoroughly after manual washing, otherwise there will be stains. But lately I noticed that it became very difficult to wash the glass itself - some stains appeared, turbidity even on ordinary cans, and noticed micro-scratches on the plates. I understand that the powder scratches - but at first everything was washed just perfectly. I have all the Domol products and now I have a bad suspicion that the powder on top was normal, and deeper in the pack - something has been muddied. Because the scratches can still be explained somehow, but the turbidity I add Rinse Aid regularly, the settings too ...

So change the powder to the correct one and all business and salt, check if there is

No, no, no, the powder is just right. You just don't need to wash the glass on "brutal" programs.

From the very beginning, she just perfectly washed glass - glasses - glasses - like from a glass factory, transparent plates donated by her sister - a feast for the eyes, she herself has the same, so you have to carefully wipe them after hand washing, otherwise there will be stains. But lately I noticed that it became very difficult to wash the glass itself - some stains appeared, turbidity even on ordinary cans, and noticed micro-scratches on the plates. I understand that the powder scratches - but at first everything was washed just perfectly. I have all the Domol products and now I have a bad suspicion that the powder on top was normal, and deeper in the pack - something has been muddied. Because the scratches can still be explained somehow, but the turbidity I add Rinse Aid regularly, the settings too ...

A familiar story, faced such a problem.
You need to more carefully adjust the settings for the rinse aid, salt, try to reduce the portion of the powder being added.
And about the scratched plates and cups, this question also arose.
I bought new and exactly the same cups (they are made of Luminarc glass), for comparison (and in general there were not enough cups), and after a year of use, the new cups remained the same new, without scratches, perfect. So it's not about the dishwasher and the means! My glass with ordinary dishes and on what programs will be necessary, and on "brutal" ones too.

The amount of salt I have is not regulated - it is not provided in the model, and the indicator does not light up - although it burned during the first few washes - but the instructions say that it should be so. I just added some salt and everything went out. It just came to me - I was washing all the dishes in economy mode, maybe that's the whole point. Sometimes (rarely) atrocious. You need to try on a car and look for dishwasher gel - we only have powders in stock. Can I have another question? I read somewhere that rinse aid is not needed when washing with gel - but how to pour it out of the car?
And I want to say a huge thank you to everyone who is not indifferent who responded to my request.

[Scarlett]

Scarlett I have called "setting the water softener" on the control panel. And there is inside the dishwasher itself, on the side wall "manually setting the water softener".
Why pour out the rinse aid forcibly? Set it to a minimum or don't top up at all, it will run out ... Dishwasher gel dear
Domol actually has very good reviews.

[Scarlett]

Scarlett I have called "setting the water softener" on the control panel. And there is inside the dishwasher itself, on the side wall "manually setting the water softener".
Why pour out the rinse aid forcibly? Set it to a minimum or don't top up at all, it will run out ... Dishwasher gel dear
Domol actually has very good reviews.

I'll get into my car today
I also only heard good reviews about Domol, but now I don’t know yet - today I’ll study

According to the chemistry of the process, the "correct" powder for PMM must dissolve glass. And the better it copes with grease and other contaminants, the more glass must suffer. By the way, this is written in the instructions for the machine. I wash glass and glass and also at a high temperature. Heirloom hruvstal, of course handles, so as not to risk it. Preservation jars and faceted glasses from Gus-Khrustalny none infection Domol does not take. And usually inexpensive Turkish-Chinese cups and others like them grow cloudy and with divorces. But I don’t bother about them - they will lose their appearance, we will buy new ones.

I have a machine for only a week, I turn it on when everyone goes to bed, in the morning the dishes are dry and there is no water in the machine's cell. During the day, the machine is disconnected from the email. energy, I periodically open it to put dirty dishes and every day I see that there is a decent amount of water at the bottom by the end of the day, once even when the door was opened it spilled onto the floor. I do not shut off the water supply tap because the instructions say that there is an aquastop. Should it be this way, or am I having some problem? (Bosch machine)

[Natalia_fom]

Natalia_fom There is clearly a problem, contact the service.

Damn it, but the service is a problem for me, we live 90 km from the city, we bought it via the Internet, we took it home ourselves, we also connected it ourselves. Maybe something was wrong, what to look for? It turns out that it stands all night after washing with the dishes normally, but in the afternoon when we periodically turn on the water in the sink, it is somehow gradually fed into the machine, why can this be so?