Mila56
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Here is a sectional view. It is baked perfectly, the taste is amazing, with a slight sourness (we love it so much) and soft as fluff. True, the height is not great, although it rose well. Probably the test was not enough. The sour cream was absolutely not sour, so I added 1m. tsp citric acid. A successful recipe and not very high in calories (which is what I need), I will continue to use it with amendments and additives. Who is interested in the recipe, see the original source (where all the cupcakes are).
Natusichka
Zhenya, cool oven! But my husband said to look for a 40-liter ... Gigantomania !!!!

Alya, Thank you very much, I just now paid attention to Asel, now I need to choose a model. The most important thing for me is that it bakes well, evenly.
Monica
Natusichka, good choice)
mvin
Quote: Yarik
Mikhail, three weeks ago I rented out my Simfer 3220 stove, which I also bought in Technosila,
How long have you been waiting for an answer? I've been waiting for over 10 days. Calling Technosila, as soon as I talk about the problem, they say you can't be heard ...
Masinen
Michael, and why call, you have to go to their store. And write a statement.
And it is better to threaten TV and the Test Purchase program and they quickly react to this, checked.
mvin
Quote: Masinen
Michael, why call
I wrote the application and am waiting for an answer for more than 10 days
Masinen
So go to the store and demand.
I don't like them and the player. Ru from the same series.
And to return something to techno-force, you will be stunned and hard to return in M-video. I buy in these stores only if there is a good offer,
So-so I bought a coffee machine Delonghi, in Technosila. And the car was out of the window and without a box, so I made the seller write a paper to me that there was a magician with scratches, there was no box, there were no instructions, there were nothing, and put the number and seal of the store,
He didn’t want to and promised with three boxes, but I made him.
I'm always tough with them.
mvin
Quote: Masinen

So go to the store and
I'm always tough with them.
They refused, threatened with Test Purchase. This time they took the oven for inspection, last time they said they would not take it, they do not have a warehouse ...
Yarik
Michael, about 20 days, by law up to 45 days
Mila56
Quote: mvin
This time they took the oven for a check, last time they said they wouldn't take it,
Michael, if I'm not mistaken, you wrote back on October 23 that you passed it for verification. Or was she not accepted then? And since then 35 days have passed. And all this time you are in limbo. If this trading network is so impudent, then I am afraid I cannot do without help. Right now, without waiting for an answer, I would turn for help either to the "Test Purchase" or to the department for consumer protection. It's a matter of principle, there's nothing to lose. Although having a city registration, it is certainly easier to seek help, and without it, pitfalls may occur. Technosila is not a reliable and small company in our city either.
mvin
Last time I handed it over for warranty repair, they kept it there for more than 30 days. Then they changed the pen and told me not to use it more than 200-220 degrees, that if it still burns out, they will not accept it. I drove directly to Technosila, where they accepted the application, they ate, but they did not take the stove. Undertook to send an SMS about the decision. SMS was not sent, I arrived myself on day 11, and I was refused due to improper operation. Threatened with Test purchase, now they took it for examination, as I understand it, they will again be taken to the service center. In general, I should have gone straight to Technosila, I think.
Natusichka
Quote: Monica
Natusichka, good choice)

Alechka! Already ordered ... I'm waiting ...
Monica
Quote: Natusichka

Alechka! Already ordered ... I'm waiting ...
Natus, then you boast)))
Natusichka
Necessarily! If you have something to brag about! In any case, I will write my impressions.
Natusichka
Well, I got my stove !!!!

I could hardly stand it until I came home from work and immediately to the instructions ... there, in principle, there was nothing to read, everything is available, everything is clear. Therefore, I immediately ran to make the dough (it was not me who did it, of course, but Kesha, my assistant Kenwood!) To bake at least something! Since now is fasting, I decided to cook mini-lean pizzas.
Here's what happened:
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And these are my beauties in my new assistant:
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I made 2 batches, by the second batch I put a thermometer on a baking sheet, the set temperature is maintained correctly!
As you already understood, I opted for Vimara. I chose for a very long time and painfully between Vimar, Asel, Dex ..., I liked something in one model, something in another, I could not find one that would have functions that were vital to me. And now, thanks to Natasha lettohka ttt, I made my choice! Mini Oven VEO-4240! Volume - 42 liters.
In this stove I found everything that I would like to see! I ordered it on the official website of Vimar. Additionally, I ordered another baking sheet, while some pies are baking, I "load" the second baking sheet. It seems to me that it is so convenient.

Help yourself:
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Laslovna
And above the mushrooms and tomatoes, is it cheese? A biscuit cookie or Maria?
Natusichka
No, Oksanochka, not cheese ... it's lean pizza! This is a potato. According to the recipe, there should be raw potatoes, grated, but I did not risk it (I'm not sure about the potatoes) and boiled them in uniforms, grated them, mixed them with butter (I had from sun-dried tomatoes, corn was very aromatic), salt, dill and put a hat on top.
And the base is not cookies, this is dough. According to the recipe, there is wheat + corn flour, but I did not have corn flour, so I added whole grain. She rolled out the dough and cut it into a circle.
Very tasty pizzas! We just ate tea at work! By the way, no one can guess what she is with!

The oven baked great, nothing burnt, everything was baked! I'm very happy!
Laslovna
Class as drawn! Do you want to issue a recipe?
Mila56
Natusichka, congratulations on your good purchase. Share the stove price and the final delivery price. And where it is made. This information is also useful for those who have not yet made their choice. And about mini-pizzas in more detail, because they turned out cool. What besides flour is included in the dough? And what is included on the top besides potatoes? Does the tomato seem fresh on the dough? And the mushrooms are still there?
Natusichka
I share with pleasure! Me with shipment and add. baking sheet cost UAH 2065.
An hour ago, I baked 2 buns at the same time in the shape of a "brick", the baking is uniform, the crust turned out to be beautiful, crispy. I'll taste it tomorrow.

Regarding mini-pizzas, if necessary, I will expose
a separate recipe.
Natusichka
You are welcome, Mini pizzas
izumka
Natusichka, really liked the oven! Congratulations on the beauty! Tell me how high the baking dish can be put into it (for example, when baking pastries)? That is, the height from the bottom grate to the top heating element. Single glass? Are the outer walls very hot? I looked at Dex, but yours really interested me.
Natusichka
Raisin, look here: 🔗

Single glass, by the way, is fixed both completely open and ajar. It heats up like all ovens ... I would not say that much ...
I baked bread in 2 forms ("brick", as in bakery) at the same time.
When I was looking, I also looked at Dex and Asel ... but after weighing everything, I chose this one, it suited me according to its functions and generally liked it more!
izumka
Natusya, I looked at this site, but I also wanted to know the height inside from the lower grill to the upper heating element
Natusichka
Measured it up! 17 cm.
Vnature
Hello everybody!

Choosing painfully. Almost already took Rolsen kw-3526. But almost at random I ordered AVEX TY400BСL. There are few reviews on these stoves, so we will check it on our own experience.One of the priorities is volume, so that you can bake a half-pie at least. Switchable convection - for biscuits. Internal lighting - I like to watch the process. The grill is not important, there is an airfryer. The timer is good, but 60 minutes is not enough, your favorite pure rye bread is baked longer. And the price of the device is also very important. It seems that the stove meets all the main parameters.

There was an option to take the same, but for 50 liters. Measured - nowhere to put. Refused. Perhaps I will regret it. By the end of the week, I hope I'll start baking already.
selenа
Vnature, we will wait for "field tests", please share your impressions
Gadgetochca
Hello everyone! Coming out of hiding in this thread!
New hotel - mini oven. It is advisable to purchase from Ozone. RU. But there are many stoves made in Turkey with the name Kumtel. Has anyone come across such?
Coconut
Furnace Owners Rommelsbacher ay!
I looked closely at the model 1805. How do you like the stoves of this manufacturer, how high are the quality, do the dishes turn out well? Please share. Found old reviews, much time has passed, how do these stoves serve?
Coconut
at first I wanted Delonghi for 32 liters, but I found reviews that the temperature is actually higher and the dishes burn, you need to decrease either the time or the degrees, in short, you need to adapt to it.
selenа
Coconut, there were no complaints about the operation of the stove, one delight, but the glass broke, I think this is a factory design and constructive jamb, the door began to open with difficulty and with a little applied effort the glass crumbled into small crumbs, the repair is very expensive, until it was thrown away, but replaced I won't buy a door for a new one for that kind of money, I'd rather buy a new one, now I know all the jambs in desktop ovens and will choose based on this knowledge, I do not advise buying such an oven due to the fact that this problem is systemic and it will be repeated in other copies alas
Coconut
selenа, thanks for the answer! Do you have a Rommelsbacher 1805 model? How long did you work?
I went through all the stoves, the choice is very small, in stores there are even fewer. For some reason I don’t trust Turkish Simfer and it’s very cheap, what is such a cost price (So, do not look in the direction of Rommelsbacher? I don’t understand what the problem with the glass is, is it badly fixed?
And how about Delonghi? ... One review saw that the temperature is higher than the stated one and burns up ..
There is nothing else to look at from the mini ovens, I didn’t find it, but I need to buy it, the New Year is coming soon, such a mini oven is needed very much))
Masinen
Hope, so maybe it's just your glass cracked, and other users did not have such problems. Or have you read somewhere about glass?
selenа
Mash, there is such a construction that a glass crack is potentially possible and constructively predictable, for cheap ovens with a price of 30-50 yea it will do, but this oven costs 300 ye
svbone
Coconut, I have a Rommelsbacher BG 1650 stove. Beauty, the volume is very good. But there is a BUT, and a very significant one: when you bake at the middle level, the top turns brown very quickly, and if at the bottom, then the bottom. The previous oven did not have such problems. Although, in principle, I got used to the oven, at the moment I would not want to change it, but the previous one, much cheaper, baked more evenly.
Rituslya
I'll stick my opinion too.
I have a Stobka oven. I can say a lot about it, but the main thing is that both top and bottom are baked surprisingly evenly.
I already even visually trust the top, because I know that the bottom is exactly the same.
selenа
Rita, how many liters do you have?
Rituslya
Nadyush, I do not know. We must ask Masha.
It takes up half of the tabletop for me.
I have not read the instructions for it either.
I bought it and ... hop!
Masinen
Hope, Rita, like mine for 28 liters of Steba 28Eo Line
Rituslya
Yes, here, Mashunya told me.
I'm sooo happy with my stove. I never thought that the table stove could be so happy.
My first experience was unsuccessful with chicken legs and potatoes, but further torment turned into pleasure.
I don’t regret at all that I bought it.
True! Sincerely!
There is a good Bosch oven, but I won't be lying if I say that I don't use it at all.
I keep the Princess in it. * JOKINGLY * He's a closet.
selenа
Quote: Rituslya
He's a closet.
well, yes, well, yes I'm looking at your beauty
Rituslya
oops ... I wrote it not there.
Vnature
In general, the first experiments with the AVEX TY400BСL stove began. Today I received it, unpacked it and measured it.
Distances.

Between heating elements - 22.5
Lattice - 38 x 29.5
Pallet - 35 x 26.5

I took pictures, I'll post it tomorrow. He began to warm up, smoked the whole kitchen. I put in a thermometer and, to put it mildly, was stunned. At 150 degrees, the thermometer shows 194 But this is with an empty oven. I'll shove the bread there and see what happens.
Vnature
So, more about the oven. She was brought in such a box. Weight with packaging - 8.7 kg (weighed by myself)

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Manufacturing - friendly China.

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Preparation for work, tearing off the adhesive tape and stickers.

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A joint is immediately noticeable. Glass door, no seal. Does not adjoin tightly, there is a crack. On the one hand, a little more than on the other.

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Teng, what's on top, what's below - two straight tubes.

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Includes baking sheet and wire rack

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The legs are small.

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There are also something like legs at the back, so as not to put them close to the wall. The instructions say: must be at least 10 cm from all sides.

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Includes potholder for wire rack and baking sheet, spit and potholder holder.

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Vnature
Control Panel.

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The temperature is indicated from 100 degrees, but if you put it in the middle between 0 and 100, then - hurray - at the output we get 40 degrees, you can distribute the dough.

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Separate grill, separate convection, separate grill with convection. Can be combined with both heating elements in any combination. Cool!

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The timer is only 60 minutes, but now I'm not sure if this is bad - I'll tell you further. At the end of the timer, a single tink is heard, in the room I can hear the tink in the kitchen.

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The lower ten is in operation.

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First, I decided to bake something tested. This is pure rye (wheat-free) sourdough custard bread.

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Initially, I was afraid to twist it with the temperature, I set it to 180, so the roof did not grab as it should, and sat down a little. But just a little bit. Next time I'll give 230 degrees right away, and when the roof grabs, I'll lower it to 170. It turned out that if you set it to 190 degrees, then with a loaded stove in the chamber the temperature is 180-185, so it gives 30-40 degrees more only if it's empty. I read about this, the famous effect. Peck, by the way, without convection.

And now the self-important result. I set the timer for an hour and went to do business. And only the smell of heavily fried bread alarmed me. He came running - oh, you, yeshkin cat, the roof was burnt, but only 45 minutes passed. I put in a thermometer - 97.5, full Achtung. I did not expect that the stove would cope so quickly, I am used to the fact that rye is baked for 1 hour 20 minutes. somewhere. And here in 45 minutes everything is ready, and even too much.
The bottom line.

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It cools down, ripens for now, I will cut it at lunchtime already.
First impressions are a bit contradictory. It can be seen that the model is budgetary, this can be seen from the quality of the plastic and the quality of the metal, which bends if you take the oven from the sides. You need to get used to it, like any technique. I have no doubt that I will get used to it. By the way, you can safely grab the iron door handle with your bare hand, it does not get very hot in the process.
selenа
Alexander, thanks for such a detailed photo report
Your bread is luxurious
40 liters is a very good volume, you don't need more, as practice has shown
As the saying goes: author write ische
izumka
And I look closely at this, the volume is good, everything will fit
🔗 Vimar VEO-6512
Outwardly very similar to that of Alexander
selenа
izumka, I didn't find such in Moscow, the volume is just huge, 65 liters is a full-fledged oven, it's even too big for me, I watched the "movie", I noticed one big plus compared to many
izumka
This company to me Natusichka I advised, but she has less volume, not all my shapes will fit in height. So I'm looking at this one.
Natusichka
Natasha (lettohka ttt) also bought this one, only her volume is larger than mine, she is also very happy!

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