Katerina2
Features of Panasonic bread makers
Katerina2
Features of Panasonic bread makers
fok
Katerina2, thank you very much. I should have guessed to ask this question earlier, I would not have ruined the bread yesterday!
Nikusya
People, tell me please, if I don't put yeast into the dispenser, will it still click?
Lanko
Nikusya, Yeah, there will be ...
Nikusya
Eh ... Thank you!
ira_lioness
Apologies in advance for the possibly stupid question.
Tell me, does the dispenser for nuts and raisins in Panasonic 2502 work in all modes or on some specific ones?
Ekaterina2
ira_lioness, on certain. Look at the instructions for directions.
I have 2501, on programs 3, 6, 11, 14, 16, 22 (all recipes with raisins)
ira_lioness
Quote: Ekaterina2

ira_lioness, on certain. Look at the instructions for directions.
I have 2501, on programs 3, 6, 11, 14, 16, 22 (all recipes with raisins)
Clear. Thank you
As far as I understand, where is it provided, you can not turn it off?
sazalexter
ira_lioness, you cannot disable it in any way.
June
What are you ladies worried about dispensers ?! This cool smart bread maker communicates with you so affectionately! (And don't say it's rude!)
vatruska
ira_lioness, why turn it off? Is it for programs of bread with raisins, for ordinary bread, its own programs, and there it is not involved at all?
ira_lioness
Quote: vatruska

ira_lioness, why turn it off? Is it for programs of bread with raisins, for ordinary bread, its own programs, and there it is not involved at all?
I'll clarify in advance, you never know
Waist
Quote: fok

Dear bakers, please help me find a description of the programs of the Panasonic SD-2500 bread machine. I would like to know how long it takes to stand, knead, rise and bake. Thank you.
And what kind of bakery do you have? Does the panel say in Russian or in English?
The fact is that the modes differ not only in names, but also in content. For example, there are only 25 programs in the stove for Europe, there is no "Pelmeni" program ...
Kotok
Tell me please - why does the Panasonic 2512 have a separate yeast dispenser? Doesn't the yeast immediately fall asleep along with all the ingredients? Or is it impossible to fall asleep all together? That is, do you need to fall asleep after the signal? That is, you can't leave it and forget about the process for a while? I watched different videos, it seems like they fall asleep all at once. Maybe this is for some specific types of bread? I just mean, is it worth overpaying for the 2nd dispenser and will it be a full automatic machine compared to the 2511?
Nugira
The dispenser is convenient when I put the bread with a delay - so that the yeast does not start working ahead of time. In this case, fill them up immediately, but in the dispenser, at the right time they will get enough sleep. if I put the bread in a slice without delay, I can put the yeast directly into the bucket.
Kotok
Nugira, thanks. Understood like. I will not overpay for 2512. Probably I will focus on the 2511th model.
Anchic
For this HP model, the batch does not start immediately by pressing the Start button, but a little later. First, the temperatures of the products are equalized (they simply lie in the bucket for at least 30 minutes), and only then the kneading begins. Therefore, so that the yeast does not start working ahead of time, we made a dispenser. They pour out from there, as she said Nugira, automatically at the right time.
Wit
Quote: Nugira
The dispenser is convenient when I put the bread with a delay - so that the yeast does not start working ahead of time.

I have a 2500 model for the third year. I put the bread overnight with a delay. Bookmark order set once and for all:
- yeast (SafMoment or pressed)
- flour
- water with diluted salt and sugar
- sunflower oil.
I close the lid, set a delay, press "Start" and go to bed. In the morning I take out the finished bread. ALWAYS and without any problems. Experiments don't count.Therefore, do not think about the connection of the dispenser with the deferral. This gadget is only for pumping money and lovers of bells and whistles (necessary and unnecessary).
By the way, there were complaints from the owners of these pribluds that they sometimes DO NOT work. There are glitches, what can you do. What is the demand for a piece of iron, if, once distracted, I forgot to pour water.
Alexander Bayer
: plach7: Please tell me, the model 2512 says "display backlight", but it is not. Do you need to press something? Very interesting.
sazalexter
Alexander Bayer, Is it written in the instructions? On the site? Actually, it shouldn't be.
Alexander Bayer
Display backlight ......... is, but it is also written.
Wit
Quote: Alexander Bayer
Display backlight ......... is, but it is also written.
Post a screenshot of the page where you read this. I did not find any display backlight in the instructions
Alexander Bayer
Bread Maker Panasonic SD-ZB2512

Panasonic SD-ZB2512 bread machine specifications

General characteristics

Power
550 watts
Maximum baking weight
1250 g
Adjusting the baking weight
there is
Baking form
loaf
Choice of crust color
there is
Timer
yes, up to 13 h
Maintaining temperature
yes, up to 1 h
Programs

Number of baking programs
14
Dough kneading
there is
Accelerated baking
there is
Jam
there is
Yeast-free baking
there is
Gluten free baked goods
there is
Wheat bread
there is
Cake
there is
Rye bread
there is
Additional Information

Number of kneaders
1
Dispenser
there is
Display backlight
there is

Body material
metal
Power cord length
1m
Features:
2 dispensers; baking program for low yeast dough and filled bread
Dimensions and weight

Weight
7.6 kg
Wit
Especially from two sites one and the same instruction scanned
This is what the page looks like with Technical characteristics

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I asked for a SCREEN with your instructions. Now, don't. Give a link from where you fought "Display backlight
there is "
However, it is also not necessary ... Here is a link for you, where the characteristics are also: 🔗

And a screen (suddenly you won't find it)
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continuation

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I offer three options:

1 - (recommended) - calm down (there is no backlight there and never was)

2 - go to that site with "highlight" and tell them everything that you think about them

3 - google and find characteristics with "vertical takeoff, is" (just kidding)

I hope we figured it out. Good luck to you!
Alexander Bayer
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=390783.0

On the same site it was written before buying x. I read this site, I did not find it for highlighting, and I did not find it on x itself. P.
Nevertheless, thanks for the consultation !!! However, the answer to the question has not been found.
sazalexter
Alexander Bayer, There is an offsite, there is a scan of instructions. Errors on third-party resources are perfectly acceptable. If there are discrepancies. you can always check on the offsite, then with real users.
Matilda-N
Who can tell, advise about the PANASONIC SD BT2P bread maker, I understand that it is a very old model, but I am confused! she starts kneading right away!
The question is, how is the oven on the timer ?! I used to put bread on at night and take it out in the morning! And here how ?!
I got it by accident, I want to figure it out! Who can help, please explain the principle of operation - specifically for this model!


Added on Tuesday 20 Sep 2016 11:26 AM

I threw a couple of pictures in my gallery, who can help me put it !!!
It turned out inverted, I don’t know how to make it normal !!!
Thanks in advance for those who will respond!
fffuntic
Matilda-N,

the network is full of places where the manual for your model is downloaded from.
For convenience, I uploaded it to a file hosting service, the link will live for 12 days. The instruction is in English, but easily understood and translated.
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As far as I understood, there are only two programs in this model: Bread-BREAD 4 hours and Dough-DOUCH 1 hour 55 minutes.
Only one size loaf per 300 g flour and crust is not selected.

You can select the Bread or Dough program with the Select button, if by default, when you turn on the program, immediately press Start, then the Bread program starts for 4 hours.
To select the Dough, you must additionally press Select until DOUCH appears on the screen, and then press Start.

To start the timer, you must first press one of the two Timer Set keys with triangles.
As I understood from the instructions, when you press only the left button of the timer once, a delay of 13 hours automatically starts automatically, in order to change it, you need to additionally poke the triangles back and forth, the change interval is 10 minutes.

The selected snooze time is displayed on the screen. Poke the triangles until the minimum respite. It looks like it will be equal to 4 hours, then the timer calculation until the morning will be the same as in the new models. That is, if the timer is set to 13 hours, the bread will be ready in 13 hours. In this regard, Panasonic does not change)))
That is, to set the baking of bread after 7 hours, you can do the following:
Turn on the machine. As I understand it, it is best to plug the machine back into the network.
Although it is possible to simply reboot it long by pressing the STOP button (Stop / Reset), but in my opinion it is better to turn off the bread maker after baking and turn it on again. There will be fewer glitches.

Then press the timer button, first the left button, and then the right one to decrease the value 13 to 7 hours. The display should light up the timer indicator on the right and the hour values ​​in the window.
Click Start.
As in the new models The timer dough does not start (((

You can see what the machine is currently doing on the left by the indicators. There are three of them: timer, operations, finished.

That is, on the screen you can see the time and progress of a given program. If the "timer" indicator is on, the screen is lit for 7 hours, this means that there are still 7 hours before the end of the program.
When the "operation" indicator lights up, and the display shows the values ​​for KNEAD (kneading), REST (rest), RISE (lifting) BAKE (baking), that is, what is currently happening with the bread.

The only thing is strange. On the screen there is a REST value (rest), that is, the standing of the products should be, and you write that it kneads immediately. Maybe just what glitch it was?
The STOP \ reset buttons are Stop or Reset, respectively. It looks like a pause and a full reset. Unfortunately, there are no details in the instructions. Apparently the duration of pressing this key will give the effect of a different type of reset or simply pause the program.
Click and find out the difference in practice


Matilda-N
fffuntic - Thank you!
The programs there really are only two - kneading dough and baking bread. Yeast dispenser included, no crust selection. Simple, but at the same time, you need to adjust to it.
I threw the photos into my gallery, they turned out inverted - I don’t know how to change them. I can't use a tablet !!
The scapula is wonderful - flat, turns in both directions! thanks again. : Friends: I went to the link and downloaded the instruction, I will study it !!!
Vadim
Can you please tell me if there is any Panasonic model with manual programming?
fffuntic
Quote: Vadim

Can you please tell me if there is any Panasonic model with manual programming?
this is the dream of all owners of Panasonic, but, alas, unattainable. The newest bourgeois model makes it possible to do a long kneading of sourdough-leaven, but this is far from programming, but a separate program.
There are no programmable Panasonic on the European and our market.
Vadim
Very sorry. Which model of those that are now selling, would you advise to buy?
fffuntic
Quote: Vadim

Very sorry. Which model of those that are now selling, would you advise to buy?

At your friends' house, first try the bread from the bread machine. Some on the forum use it as a kneader, and bake it in the oven. In this case, you absolutely do not need to overpay for a new model, it will ride cheaper.
And if you like bread from a bread machine, then read below.


About Panasonic. The more programs, the more opportunities you have to receive different types of bread on the machine, without your participation. If you lazily like variety, take a newer model.

Those programs that are common for models - the same. The model differs from the model only in new features.What - see the instructions for the models.

Bourgeois stoves differ in a larger number of programs than domestic ones. Personally, I like them more for their capabilities.

In all honesty, I think that, for example, without the French bread program, it will be extremely difficult to get bread of this quality by dancing with tambourines, combining other programs.
Therefore, programs in Panasonic are not superfluous.
However, if you are financially constrained, then taking the old model, you can still bake a large number of types of bread by combining - which of course is less convenient, but not scary.

The presence of a dispenser is already completely uncritical.

Especially yeast. Moreover, many do not like the way it slams when it opens and closes. A yeast dispenser can be forwarded without hesitation. There is absolutely no need to overpay for it.

A regular additive dispenser is a welcome presence. It will allow the machine to fill the bread with additives in time without your participation. But again - many do it perfectly by hand.

Summary. Take the Panasonic model with the largest number of programs and with an additive dispenser, if your finances allow.



About programmable cars


There is little choice here. At the same time, please note that below are only personal preferences.
They are subjective.
I have two cars: a Panasonic for every day and a programmable Brand for special occasions. Brand chose for reasons of price and capabilities. Everything is programmed in it, including the fermentation temperature, which is usually equally high in other programmable stoves. But the brand in terms of the quality of performance is flimsy than Panasik, so I use it much less often than Panasik.
And at the brand I like pastries less than Panasik. The crusts are less crunchy on my stove.
But in terms of programming, that is, getting the most diverse dough - she's a candy. I got what I wanted, I am absolutely satisfied

And so the reviews are laudatory at the modern Kenwood 450. There baked goods are on top. I just don't like the non-adjustable fermentation temperature there.
And then there are a number of cars. Look here on the forum.

They all have a drawback - in terms of the quality of performance, they are flimsy than Panasik. And each has its own peculiarities: different parameters are programmed differently. Baking is somewhere better, but somewhere worse.

If you take a programmable machine as the only one, then I don't even know what to advise you.
Probably I would look towards Kenwood ... There, according to reviews, bread is closest in taste to Panasonic. There is a long mode of homemade bread. A bunch of additional programs.
But the fermentation temperature is not programmed there, that is, sourdough bread cannot be made, well, those that like to sit at, for example, 20 degrees
There is a weak attachment point for the bucket - people change it once a year in the worst case with heavy use.

My beloved Brand, as the only one, will not appeal to lovers of a very crispy crust of French bread, and her bucket assembly is similar to Kenwood in flimsy. True, Brand's service is friendly. Brand's automatic programs didn't impress me at all. This oven is not for a beginner, but for someone who is fond of complex baking and is ready to make their own programs.

Zoviruses ... also low temperatures are not programmed and it is very large.

In general, in the field of programmable machines, as the only one, choose those whose shortcomings are more comfortable.


Vadim
Thank you very much for the information. I'll think.
Matilda-N
I am answering my own question!
All these days I baked without a timer, the bread was good! But last night, I took a chance and put the bread with a delay of 7 !!! Hours.
Kneading The stove started immediately, I tracked the bun (yeast was poured into the dispenser), the kneading time was -15 minutes, then there was silence. ! I decided whether that will be the biggest thing, we will have a meal in the morning without bread, or baked with a brick!
But nothing like that, in the morning the bread was baked - it rose to the brim of the bucket!
So, the Bread Maker has such a chip - kneading immediately, and the yeast dispenser works when the time until the end of the program is 3 hours, 30 minutes! (At least for my beauty!)
$ vetLana
Quote: Matilda-N
, in the morning the bread was baked - it rose to the edges of the bucket!
It's very good that it ended this way! Congratulations!
fffuntic
Quote: Matilda-N

I am answering my own question!
....
So, the Bread Maker has such a chip - kneading immediately, and the yeast dispenser works when the time until the end of the program is 3 hours, 30 minutes! (At least for my beauty!)

but for me, so the idea is so-so. In summer, in the heat, the bun will ferment for 7 hours? I would, if the room is very warm, turn it on on the timer and let it knead for 15 minutes, and only then add the food.
Matilda-N
Thank you girls for your attention to my problem!
Thanks for the timer idea !!! , I will use it. I do not know, it should be so or is it a glitch, specifically for my model ?!
But the stove also baked on the timer normally! ! I will try different options (with a timer)!
Thanks again to those who responded.
$ vetLana
Matilda-N
$ vetLana- thank you very much!!!
Any information about her is useful to me.
fffuntic
Matilda-N, the stove is a rarity, its features can only be compared with the owners of the same stove. And in the subject of the old stove they have not been active for a long time. You can try to write to Johnson and MamaGala in a personal message, maybe then they will respond.
Well, in the worst case, I will somehow adapt myself.
Rather, in any case, you have to adapt. This rarity can hardly be changed in any way. even if it's her own glitch.

As far as I understand, because the bun is on the timer in the cold, nothing will be done to it. But if it stays warm for a long time, then, probably, it can turn sour. Although any statement must be verified in practice. In general, theoretically, even yeast in a yeast dispenser on a timer, if not rolled in flour, should lose its strength after prolonged exposure to air, but again this is in theory, but in practice it can be nothing?
And I also think that since Panasonic refused to release this model, then something in it did not suit the consumer. Maybe just this kind of timer work? There are only two buttons, you can hardly change anything. All that remains is to adjust and experiment.

I think you can take any recipes from the forum, but count on 300 g of flour.
$ vetLana
Quote: fffuntic
I think you can take any recipes from the forum, but count on 300 g of flour.
Svetlana, but this one does not need to be counted, it is already 300 g. And tasty! True, in CF it turns out tastier.
Features of Panasonic bread makersKhlebushek Borodinsky "Love from the first crumb" (multicooker Redmond RMS-02)
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Added Monday 26 Sep 2016 04:10 PM

Matilda-Nwhat kind of stove you have interesting. So you can only bake 300 g?
Matilda-N
fffuntic, $ vetLana- girls, thank you very much for your responsiveness !!
The stove is really a rarity! I want to make friends with her, and adjust to her!
A small bucket - for 300 grams of flour is calculated, the spatula is very interesting flat - I don’t even know how to explain it, it (the spatula) - when kneading in both directions !!! According to some incomprehensible algorithm,. But I really like the stove! Hope to make friends with her.
Baking simple bread - we eat mostly white! but I will try other recipes too!

I can put a photo but only in my gallery, because I can't edit from a tablet, and for some reason the photos are loaded sideways!
julia_bb
Tell me, is there such an algorithm for the main and maybe French modes in Panasonic on our website?
Mostly interesting for the TEST mode.
This is a quote from Tanya Admin:

"Hitachi Bread Maker Program, (in which I bake this bread)" Whole Wheat Bread "which lasts 3.50 hours.
The duration of the process and the cycles in the Hitachi bread maker by operation is as follows:

1.preliminary kneading - 11 minutes
2.pause - 40 minutes
3. kneading - 14 minutes
4.first ascent - 26 minutes
5.gas outlet - 20 seconds
6.second ascent - 70 minutes
7.baking - 55 minutes
8. end of baking - 13 minutes. "
fffuntic
Quote: julia_bb

Tell me, is there such an algorithm for the main and maybe French modes in Panasonic on our website?
Mostly interesting for the TEST mode.
This is a quote from Tanya Admin:

"Hitachi Bread Maker Program, (in which I bake this bread)" Whole Wheat Bread "which lasts 3.50 hours.
The duration of the process and the cycles in the Hitachi bread maker by operation is as follows:

1.preliminary kneading - 11 minutes
2.pause - 40 minutes
3. kneading - 14 minutes
4.first ascent - 26 minutes
5.gas outlet - 20 seconds
6.second ascent - 70 minutes
7.baking - 55 minutes
8. end of baking - 13 minutes. "
if it is still relevant, then Panasonic does not have such a regime with a rest-standing test between two main batches.

You can simulate a similar mode if you knead slightly dough on dumplings or pizza, and then start the program. The time while Panasonic will equalize the temperature and will be like rest in Panasonic between batches.
This rest is needed if you have flour with prolonged swelling of gluten, and if it is imported, strong and fast-acting, then this rest is not relevant.
d5505870
My wife and I bought Panasonic SD-2511 today. My question is as follows. Should the kneading blades fit snugly on the axle in the bucket, or should they hang loose enough? In our HP, they dangle freely. This is our first HP and we do not know how it should be, or is it some kind of marriage. Someone please enlighten us. Thank you very much.
Creamy
d5505870, they are specially designed so that there is play (wobbling). So on all Panasonic.
julia_bb
d5505870should hang loosely. I even had a video somewhere, if I find I'll insert it here
IrinaR
Girls, please help. In Panasonic 255, a dispensary broke down. Please tell me how long before the end of baking you need to add additives in the main and diet modes.

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