mowgli
Fronya, what are you rocking, otherwise I'm a complete layman in modern literature!
Tverichanka
I totally agree that the price should be real. And, indeed, any work must be paid. BUT! a book in electronic form cannot be more expensive than a real paper pocketbook. I will never believe that the costs are the same.
azaza
Quote: Tverichanka

BUT! a book in electronic form cannot be more expensive than a real paper pocketbook. I will never believe that the costs are the same.
Moreover: according to the logic of email. book obliged much cheaper than paper! I'm talking about that! Can I tell you the author's royalty (i.e. circulation percentage)? Pocket - 6-8%, cover - 10-12%. The luminaries have more, but insignificantly, they win due to circulation, but not percent. And that is not all! After all, royalty is not calculated from the selling price of a book, but ... from the minimum release price of the publishing house! And the minimum price of a publishing house is usually 3-5 times lower than the market price. Taking into account the fact that nowadays it is rare for any author to have more than three thousand copies, the fee is offensive tears, and not material reward. Everything else is eaten by the publishing house and the middlemen. And if the price of an e-book consisted only of royalties to the author and editor, even to the layout designer, it would get to the reader for mere pennies.
To be fair: American authors receive almost the same royalties (comparable to those of our luminaries). But the percentage is calculated from the sale, the final price of the book. It would seem - what a trifle, a tiny inaccuracy in the wording. And the result is deplorable.
So the main evil is not even the publishers, but the superstructure that lies between them and the buyer. And it's not about the greed of the traders. They need to pay for transportation, warehouses, salaries for sellers, and ... their own risks. For it is not the publisher who decides to print the book or not to print it, but ... the middleman-trader. It is he who risks his money in the expectation that the book will be sold.
And to remove all this skyscraper, built on the author's fragile shoulders, the price of the book would be a penny. But now even the price of a skyscraper is invested in an e-book. Because for a book to appear, it must go through the entire chain. And only after being published in paper does it get on the Internet. Many authors place their texts on the internet without any publishers or traders. So what? Who knows about them? Nobody. Because for the reader to recognize you, you have to be published on paper. Vicious circle. That's why we won't have cheap books.
And not only here. In the same America, e-books cost almost the same as paper books. So they have the same superstructure. Only in their chain there is one more important link - agents. And they, too, do not work out of love for the reader.
fronya40
Quote: mowgli

Fronya, what are you rocking, otherwise I'm a complete layman in modern literature!

what did I swing? : girl_manikur: yes, everything. It's embarrassing to even admit, I opened the rutracker. and off we go - collections of works are modern prose. and our detectives and English, and then I will choose. I downloaded one good writer Tatiana Turinskaya-Arithmetic of meanness, I don't even know, can I open her nickname in our forum? and Tanya ?? I really like it. The syllable is good. So what to advise? everyone chooses. what I like ... I love Ustinova, Akunin. discover your favorite genre and go!
azaza
Quote: fronya40

I downloaded one good reader

Almost according to Freud!
Frosya, today, too, as I learned about the possible cancellation of the balls, with a fright of all Akunin downloaded A more and did not have time to do anything - they closed the shop. Then she pumped Larsson and Rollins on another resource. That's enough for today, I'm tired (I had to do more films-serials from torrents). The classics are already a whole folder.In short, in a day I made stocks for a year and a half
Grypana
Quote: fronya40

I downloaded one good one

Tanya, have you collaborated with these libraries? Did she voluntarily give them?
I also spent my vacation with you. And now I'm thinking I'm sorry, my dear ... I downloaded it, I didn't think ...

fronya40
Quote: azaza

Almost according to Freud!
Frosya, today, too, as I learned about the possible cancellation of the balls, with a fright of all Akunin downloaded A more and did not have time to do anything - they closed the shop. Then she pumped Larsson and Rollins on another resource. That's enough for today, I'm tired (I had to do more films-serials from torrents). The classics are already a whole folder. In short, in a day I made stocks for a year and a half

I'll share with you - I have STOKAAAAA here)))))))))
azaza
Quote: Grypana

Tanya, have you collaborated with these libraries?

Straight! Pirates all around, what cooperation ?! Yes, I'm not in a claim. I myself am going to rock a lot
azaza
Quote: fronya40

I'll share with you - I have STOKAAAAA here)))))))))
Oh, Frosy, I'm afraid that your STOKAAAAA plus my OGOGOgishche - my life is not fat for me to re-read everything You also need to review everything stolen from torrents.
But don't delete it, of course. Now everything that is available must be protected, as in Soviet times, paper books. I'm afraid that soon we will change with each other, as in the days of youth: will you give me some reading?
fronya40
only I was opposed, not a reader, but a writer! Tanya, well, thank you for the books! finally I got to them.
Grypana
And I am now drawn into fantasy. I didn't even think that in old age I'll sit down like that.
fronya40
Quote: azaza

Oh, Frosy, I'm afraid that your STOKAAAAA plus my OGOGOgishche - my life is not fat for me to re-read everything You also need to review everything stolen from torrents.

Oh. she herself, but more hochetstsa. and to pump up the SCH films, I just do not have time ... and there is where. an empty hard drive is external. but no time
fronya40
Quote: Grypana

And I am now drawn into fantasy. I didn't even think that in old age I'll sit down like that.

and read the Chronicles of Amber Zelazny? my favorite.
azaza
And somehow I can't make friends with fantasy. Not mine.
fronya40
and I just read them from fantasy))) but it's worth it. I download the scs too.
fronya40
Azaz, and "Wisdom of the Wife" on the filibuste - also Turin - what we know
Grypana
Quote: fronya40

and read the Chronicles of Amber Zelazny? my favorite.

Tanya-Fronya
I didn't think about fantasy either. And then I accidentally caught my eye (I wanted something, so as not to think), and liked it.

fronya40
and I didn't think ... but accidentally bought it at sea. and then I bought all the volumes of these Amberov - well, very, very much.
fronya40
Quote: Grypana

Tanya-Fronya
I didn't think about fantasy either. And then I accidentally caught my eye (I wanted something, so as not to think), and liked it.

Natasha, well advise then whom to download?
azaza
Quote: fronya40

Azaz, and "Wisdom of the Wife" on the filibuste - also Turin - what we know
But this Wisdom is a terrible razvodilovo, I don't even want to hear about it. I was scared at one time.
Lan, Frosy, closed the topic. Let's better about e-books.
fronya40
as you say))))) Well, SCHS is a topical topic - run to nudge, while something has not been closed yet ...
cake machine
And Amanda Hawking has read about the trolls. I like it. Recently the last third part came out.
🔗 This is the first part of "Foundling"
When Wendy was only six, her mother, who considered her daughter a monster, tried to kill her. Eleven not so happy years have passed, and suddenly Wendy begins to suspect that her mother may have been right. And she's not really human. But who then? To find out the truth about herself, Wendy will have to find herself in a frightening and wonderful world of the people of the trill, reliably hidden from human eyes. Wendy is her own there, and she is destined for a great fate, but she is not at all sure that she wants to be a part of this world, that cruelty, cold calculation and power are what she dreams of.

"Foundling" is the first novel in a trilogy about a thriller that brought fame to a very young writer Amanda Hawking and became a real book sensation. Amanda herself exhibited a digital version of her book in the world's largest online store, and very quickly sales of her fantasy exceeded a million copies. After that, a real battle broke out between the largest publishers for the right to publish her novels. Amanda Hawking is called the direct heiress of J. Rowling, she also created her own special magical world, which exists next to ours, but in which everything is arranged completely differently
Grypana
I liked from the latest Jude Devereaux "Knight", Lucy Monroe "Lunar Awakening" (Children of the Moon series) I understand that a fairy tale, but beautiful - knights, wolves.

I'll go download too.
izvarina.d
Devulki, I'm here: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=60573.0 ...

In general, dedicated to fans of fantasy
Leska
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Giraffe
Quote: azaza

But don't delete it, of course. Now everything that is available must be protected, as in Soviet times, paper books. I'm afraid that soon we will change with each other, as in the days of youth: will you give me some reading?

My thought was voiced
mowgli
Quote: azaza

And somehow I can't make friends with fantasy. Not mine.
Tan, try the chronicles of Amber and George Martin's Game of Thrones. I think then fantasy will drag on. For some reason I love this fantasy plan.
cake machine
Girls In The Chronicles of Amber which book should I start reading? there are a bunch of books
1. Nine Princes of Amber
2. Shotguns of Avalon
3. The sign of the Unicorn
4. Hand of Oberon
5. Realm of Chaos
6. Trumps of Rock
7. Blood of Amber
8. Sign of Chaos
9. Knight of Shadows
10. Prince of Chaos
11. A merchant's tale
12. Blue horse, dancing mountains
13. Okutanka and Gizel
14. By the way, about the lace
15. Mirror corridor
Is this the first 15? I got confused in them ..
julifera
cake machine
So read in a row through the list, starting with the first
cake machine
Thank you! went to download
gala10
Girls, I have a big heap pumped up, I do not delete anything, I am ready to share with everyone!
Grypana
Girls, how do you like Philip Pullman?
fronya40
Quote: mowgli

Tan, try the chronicles of Amber and George Martin's Game of Thrones. I think then fantasy will drag on. For some reason I love this fantasy plan.

I'm a different Tanya, but I just remembered and downloaded yesterday for Game of Thrones. and the Chronicles of Amber is a bomb! I'm waiting for the film to be put on it.
julifera
fronya40, Tan, and managed to watch the movie on Game of Thrones?
fronya40
but no, I haven't read a book either - I just rushed to download it - but not a fig, it's closed ...
I think my friend has it, if he didn’t delete it, he told me everything, look, and I’m that, then ..

deleted, I called .. says - 3 seasons, how can you store it ...
julifera
Quote: fronya40

but no, I haven't read a book either - I just rushed to download it - but not a fig, it's closed ...
I think my friend has it, if he didn’t delete it, he told me everything, look, and I’m that, then ..

It's great that I didn't have time for the movie !!!
In the cinema there is some kind of emphasis on the "meat grinder", on the action, and the book is more psychological and much more interesting than the film.

I can send in fb2-format, write in a personal email

fronya40
julifera, thanks, friend, I managed to download it yesterday.
So everything is fine, I will read and have full pleasure!
I will receive a new booklet Kindel 5 today. Honestly, I don’t know why, but ... they unexpectedly gave me an envelope for Boo Day, and it was in the table for two weeks .. and I think, well, that's what to buy, so that I know what is a gift ??? and then it occurred to me! There is a tablet, but you can't read it from it in the sun, and holding 700 grams in your hands is not a hundred)))) there is also a book, but 5 inches, and it slowly turns the pages, these glare bother me. so now I'm a business sausage with a book!

but about pirate sites we need to put up with ... time has come "H". Lafa is over ...

On August 1, the law against Internet piracy came into force in Russia. Filmmakers may request the closure of sites that illegally distribute video products.
- The main blow will be directed at large file-sharing services, hosting and social networks that are available, that are financially secure and to which you can present something and from which you can collect something.
cake machine
I wrote on the wrong topic, about another series of books About the family of psychics. Very interesting https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=60573.0
fronya40
girls, how do you convert from fb2 to mobi? I then found an online translator, or can I install the program?
Suslya
Tan try Caliber program - weigh
Monica
Quote: fronya40

girls, how do you convert from fb2 to mobi? I then found an online translator, or can I install the program?
Tanya, I use Caliber. Very comfortably.
fronya40
Thanks.I'm now with a new book !!! pumped up a thousand, but what about ???? Well, at work I'm looking for now)))
Lozja
Tanya, with your purchase! Set yourself Caliber, especially since this is a program from Amazon itself, for their own books. The program is installed on the computer.
Monica
Tan, I also have Kindle with Caliber working perfectly. With a purchase, may it bring you joy and pleasure
fronya40
Oh thank you!!
fronya40
and all what a stranger I am, this Hummingbird is in my computer, I already downloaded it like that, so now I'm sitting translating !!!!
Monica
Quote: fronya40

and all what a stranger I am, this Hummingbird is in my computer, I already downloaded it like that, so now I'm sitting translating !!!!
This is a girl's memory, I myself, as I begin to roam through the folders, I find a lot of interesting things
fronya40
and how fast it converts !!! pestnya !!!!! once again and done !!!!
fronya40
Quote: Grypana

Girls, how do you like Philip Pullman?

and what are you asking, interesting? put the swing, I never read ...
Grypana
I read good reviews. Like adults, and like heroes from childhood. I think someone can read it. I've downloaded it already.

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