julifera
Quote: k.alena

IMHO the main thing for me is in email. book is a screen. In Pocket, this is E-Ink, that is, an imitation of plain paper. In this, for me, the key "+" of these devices. Because after reading from the monitor, the eyes are terribly tired. And I read quite a lot.

k.alena - one to one my thoughts
You need to take care of your eyes, we have only one, you cannot insert new ones, and for the eyes the best screen is an imitation of ordinary paper
And you can watch and listen to video and music from other devices.

Perhaps the one who does not work at the computer has healthier eyes, and they are not afraid of screens like on mobile phones and tablets ...
Giraffe
My eyes don't get tired of my monitor, and two friends can't stay behind it for more than 10 minutes. In general, as I understand it, you need to take a packet? And somewhere I met that the e-link in the bright sun is bad to read. True?
Inusya
Quote: Lisss's

k.alena, julifera, +1! my eyes get tired from the monitor, but not from the book
Of course, they will not get tired, there is no backlighting there, you look like ordinary paper.
Yes, I respect technologies that really help a person, and not anyhow.
And in the sun, nothing of the kind, everything is still visible. I carry it to the sea all the time in the summer, at home they don't give it to read. There is no difference. Well, of course you yourself will squint in the bright sun, of course, you need to wear sunglasses. And so great. An ordinary book doesn't shine in the sun for you?
fani
Girls, I made my choice and ordered Kindl 4... I read about them, and the design bribed me. I don't need anything other than reading in a book. Like another daughter we'll buy. I'm waiting now, next week they should bring ...
lesik_l
Girls, my question is: Is the browser working normally in your books? I mostly read directly from online sites, I don't load it on a computer. Therefore the main problem is normal page viewing. Previously, this function was not in readers, but now they began to declare.
Does anyone have that? How does it work?
julifera
Quote: lesik_l

I mostly read directly from online sites, I don't load it on a computer.

What device are you reading on?
My son in the third Kindle in the classroom reads directly from the sites, how he comes - I will clarify how adequately the different pages open.
julifera
He says that it is normally displayed on all sites where he went - the main text part itself is aligned to the width of the book.
mowgli
When I already buy this device, I would upload my school textbooks and go there = here without any packages there .. already put on = home = from home .. then you forget something and rush around your neighbors in search of a textbook .. and so .. paradise ..
k.alena
Quote: mowgli

When I already buy this device, I would upload my school textbooks and go there = here without any packages there .. already put on = home = from home .. then you forget something and rush around your neighbors in search of a textbook .. and so .. paradise ..
I also hoped for this, buying this device for my son ... but it turned out that not so many textbooks are in electronic form. At least the ones he needed at university. I think that things are no better with school
lesik_l
Quote: k.alena

I also hoped for this, buying this device for my son ... but it turned out that not so many textbooks are in electronic form. At least the ones he needed at university. I think that things are no better with school

I'm thinking about it for my daughter too. If there are no ready-made in email. form - take a textbook for the weekend and scan. The only question is whether it will be convenient for the child to use? If you take 9 ", there is a high probability of beating the screen, after all, a school is a school. How do they rush there during recess.
mowgli
Quote: lesik_l

I'm also thinking about it for my daughter. If there are no ready-made in email.form - take a textbook for the weekend and scan. The only question is whether it will be convenient for the child to use? If you take 9 ", there is a high probability of beating the screen, after all, a school is a school. How do they rush there during recess.
My daughter carries a book, okay ... though their class is very calm, and the children are just super there, everyone would be such students !!! though they and their friend searched the sites for a long time ... of course not all of them, but they found .. something
julifera
Quote: mowgli

Oh no ... I call it humanities mathematics ... story ... girls ..

In history, we are faced with the fact that books as such on a particular topic did not exist at all.
The son at the university chose the very last topic of the essay, all the other topics were sorted out, and he got the coolest one, which no one wanted to take - the Dissidents of Dnepropetrovsk.
Break the entire Internet up and down, we were able to find only pitiful grains.
As a result, he described the dissident movement in the Dnipropetrovsk region in general, 3-4 pages.
The teacher turned it back, alter the pier, and set a strict condition - at least 20 people.
As a result, we poked around for another week and barely found 10 people.
On computer specialty not to have any books on history on the internet - these are hangers, I have no idea how children learn on historical specialties with such a "variety of information"
k.alena
Quote: lesik_l

I'm also thinking about it for my daughter. If there are no ready-made in email. form - take a textbook for the weekend and scan. The only question is whether it will be convenient for the child to use? If you take 9 ", there is a high probability of beating the screen, after all, a school is a school. How do they rush there during recess.
We are no longer a school, there is nowhere to take a textbook, he is looking for information on the Internet a little. The basis is still a lecture, but there is also something to look for.
For the school, Tabachnik threatened to post all the textbooks on the MO website over time. Suddenly, they really will lay out Just the youngest will grow up so that she can be entrusted with electronics
mowgli
I myself wonder how I overcame everything there ... one teacher said that the most important thing that we were taught ... is .. to teach where and how to look
lesik_l
This year I looked: for grade 11 there were all textbooks in e-mail. form. Some of them found them on the Internet themselves, scanned for the 10th. My daughter has her own laptop, if something needs to be visualized, we print it out. But in principle it is convenient. At the institute, many lecturers' notes are also in email. They give a form, well, the Internet is there - a lot can be found.
I heard in Russia they planned to give out reading rooms instead of textbooks, but did you understand the idea and was not implemented?
Giraffe
Pocket 611 illustrations show color or black and white? I went to the store today. I only held it in my hands. To check how the color is adjusted, etc., you need to take faces. agreement, etc., and this is only after the purchase.
mowgli
Quote: giraffe

Pocket 611 illustrations show color or black and white? I went to the store today. I only held it in my hands. To check how the color is adjusted, etc., you need to take faces. agreement, etc., and this is only after the purchase.
in my opinion, black and white. Series A
Giraffe
UNCLEAR, WHY COLORED IN CHEAPER MODELS? I have SO MANY ENCYCLOPEDIA OF Daughters in my COMP.
Lisss's
pocket 611 - black and white.

if the screen using electronic ink technology is e-ink, then it will be black and white
if the screen is tft, as in monitors, then it will be in color.

e-ink is more eye-friendly, this technology is more expensive than tft, so models with a color screen are cheaper than black and white
TaurusZ
Quote: giraffe

I have SO MANY ENCYCLOPEDIA OF Daughters in my COMP.

If you want to read encyclopedias and magazines, and they are usually either in pdf or djvu format, then it will be inconvenient to do this on 6-7 inch screens. For these formats, you need at least 9 inches.
olgavas
Girls, I want to buy myself a book too. I'm looking at Pocket Book Pro 602. But since I'm a full kettle in this business, I have a question. After buying a book in an online store, will you need to give the book somewhere for firmware? And in general, what is firmware and how is it done?
And on the model, someone add a comment please.
strawberry
: rose: After the purchase, you can immediately use it, you do not need to give it anywhere. They do the firmware themselves, if they understand a little about the programs. They made it to me in the service, just like that. I had the very first version. In the following they add some functions, but I did not try any more. Everything can be found on the Pocket website. The operation is simple, and the girls recommended download sites in the topics. Happy communication with the book!
I have had this model for almost a year. I am very satisfied. in addition to books, I uploaded a few photos, for testing, but only reading. I didn't upload music, it's distracting. Charging takes a long time, the most important thing is to follow the instructions for swinging the battery. I inserted a 2 GB card. A quarter full, but a lot uploaded. I do not experience any difficulties. What was not clear, everything was explained on our forum.
TaurusZ
Firmware is usually understood as updating software on a device or gaining root (administrative) access to the operating system of a device (for example, to install third-party programs)

Firmware replacement instructions can usually be found on the manufacturer's website.

Sometimes, you need to update the firmware after purchase, but this is only if something does not suit you in the reader. When updates are released, it is always indicated what exactly has been updated. For example, the firmware may have improved support for pdf files, or some new fonts, etc.

Usually the firmware technology is as follows. New firmware is being downloaded. It is poured into the root of the flash card. The card is inserted into the book. After turning on the book, the update process begins. After some time, you receive a message about the end of the update. Briefly so. But the process can vary depending on the manufacturer.


Lisss's
there are a lot of reviews about the pockets here in the subject, look at it, it's short

according to the firmware in the pocketbooks - when you buy it, it is already completely "ready to use" - there is a Russian menu, and you can safely read books and do nothing. firmware is something new that the developers have come up with for this device, while you have it. they cannot take it away from you in order to make the necessary updates, therefore on the official website of the pocketbook here 🔗 They periodically post updates for each model of pocketbooks, they call this whole thing - the firmware, and the number, which in turn.

here a new firmware came out on my model in the fall, and I reflashed it. It turned out that there was nothing terrible in it, everything was thought out. you need to download the firmware from the site to your pc, then connect the poketbook to your computer and it will start to install itself. periodically you need to press something, but this whole procedure is described in great detail in a file on the same site, and that's what I did. everything turned out so that I'm not afraid of the firmware anymore!

I have a pocket 602, I am very happy, I commented there above, read
strawberry
: girl_red: That's it-poured into the root of the flash cardthat stopped me: o Almost a kettle. And it seems not difficult periodically something needs to be pressed... Girls, lovely!
mowgli
Tell me, does this model have an audio output? Pocket 602?
olgavas
About the root of a flash card - it's generally tin. For dummies - this is something ....... From the realm of fantasy
And tell me, please, do you need to buy the cover separately?
strawberry
Yes, there is no hard cover. There is a cover. I bought through the Internet for 650 rubles. good, tough. leather, Chinese. Look at the themes: the girls made very good covers themselves.
mowgli
Now I'm trying to download books written for free, but everywhere at least 5 rubles, but pay, and where to look for?
Rimma71
Quote: mowgli

Tell me, does this model have an audio output? Pocket 602?
Yes, there is a headphone output!
strawberry
Quote: mowgli

Now I'm trying to download books written for free, but everywhere at least 5 rubles, but pay, and where to look for?
Most often I download it on Flibust. There is also a large free library. A bunch of books. Look at the Temko girls, many sites gave, I can not insert the link, so look. And on Flibust you don't have to register.
k.alena
Lisss's, and what is the last one? I reflashed right after the purchase in the spring. I have E602.2.0.5
And it seems to me (I may be wrong) that everything was happening via Wi-Fi when I turned it on to check. She herself said that there is a newer version and everything was installed at once into the book. Now I'll try to check
k.alena
I checked, immediately when you turn on Wi-Fi, it checks the latest firmware itself and asks to update the software. I just pressed OK and after the corresponding picture appeared on the screen, I connected the lace to my computer, I don't even know why. And she uploaded everything herself without my participation, literally in 2 minutes
strawberry
Quote: k.alena

I checked, immediately when you turn on Wi-Fi, it checks the latest firmware itself and asks to update the software. I just pressed OK and after the corresponding picture appeared on the screen, I connected the lace to my computer, I don't even know why. And she uploaded everything herself without my participation, literally in 2 minutes
Tell me, for dummies: do you have a book registered? I tried to connect Wi-Fi, but there are so many things: girl_haha: Please clarify a little, I really want to try.
k.alena
Tell me, for dummies: do you have a book registered?
Where?
To connect to Wi-Fi in your home network, you need to go: settings - communication - wireless connections. Assign connection1 - wlan. Then go there and set the network name, security level, access key (this is the data of your home network). When everything is configured, then go to the "Check connection" there. If everything is correct, then it should connect. All this is written in the instructions, which are in the book itself.
strawberry
: rose: Thanks for the answer. I think that this is interesting to many, but sometimes they are embarrassed to look dark. And I always ask, because I study everything on my own. Wi-Fi was installed for me, I learned the name of the network, but the level of protection, access key? You need to call the one who installed it. I read the instructions and questions on the site of the pockets. Maybe I'll figure it out by morning
TaurusZ
Quote: olgavas

About the root of a flash card - it's generally tin. For dummies - this is something ....... From the realm of fantasy

The root of a disk (and a flash card acts as a disk) is the topmost level in the directory structure.
That is, from: /file.txt is in the root of the drive c, and from: / folder/file.txt is not

Well, this no longer applies to e-books. ...
And in order not to terrify me with my comments, I bow out for this.

tigra-tigrica
And, how much 3-G is needed or wi-fi is enough. I'm not very good in these matters either, to put it mildly. Just came out of the forest, dark.
lesik_l
3-G is really cool! Consider your Internet connection everywhere and, moreover, free
Lisss's
k.alena, I don’t use wi-fi from the package, I somehow the old-fashioned way, through a lace, more dear, I looked in the settings for my firmware number, and then looked at the site - there was mine and another one, so I installed it. this is E602.2.1.2.

klubnichka, I registered mine, as required. this procedure is nasty for one e-mail they give only 1 registration code. When I had to register the second book, the mother-in-law, I suffered through my husband's e-mail, and how these husbands love to be disturbed by little things, well, I have already done everything, thank God!
k.alena
Quote: lesik_l

3-G is really cool! Consider you have an Internet connection everywhere and moreover free
Why is this? My son has a tablet with 3-G. Very much even paid. Depending on the operator (since it is provided by mobile operators) of different cost, at the moment the cheapest is CSO. And not quite everywhere ... in large cities there is, in the country ... not especially. CSO also says that outside large cities it switches to Kyivstar, but according to experience, communication is not very
For a book IMHO this is very necessary, nevertheless, it is more necessary for a tablet, in order to walk on sites. But in the book you still read more, what you filled in earlier. IMHO and Wi-Fi is not so necessary.
strawberry
Quote: Lisss's


klubnichka, I registered mine, as required. this procedure is nasty for one e-mail they give only 1 registration code. When I had to register the second book, the mother-in-law, I suffered through my husband's e-mail, and how these husbands love to be disturbed by little things, well, I have already done everything, thank God!
Now, I'm trying to register now, but they don't let me in, I already have an e-mail! Probably, I have tried it once. But, of course, I do not remember the password already ... In general, a headache. As they say, don't be smart! Download, read and be happy. No, I want to become even smarter
julifera
Quote: lesik_l

3-G is really cool! Consider your Internet connection everywhere and, moreover, free

Quote: k.alena

Why is this? My son has a tablet with 3-G. Very paid

FREE for Amazon Kindle !!!!!
The son is not overjoyed, sometimes he writes off on modular straight from the reader
And for the new Kindle Touch, this lafa has already ended.
Well, they also say China has not concluded an agreement with Amazon, and there you will not have a free Internet on Kindle (this is for those who are going to China)
tigra-tigrica
Quote: julifera


And for the new Kindle Touch, this lafa has already ended.
Why did it end? And, in the third, this lafa continues?
lesik_l
Today I looked for the 3rd Amazon Kindle - there is. Free of charge in Ukraine + 100 more countries.

And they also have Wi-Fi. Only with advertising I did not understand: some have it, others do not, but they are more expensive. What is this advertisement?
tigra-tigrica
Quote: lesik_l

Today I looked for the 3rd Amazon Kindle - there is. Free of charge in Ukraine + 100 more countries.
Where can you see it?
julifera
Quote: tigra-tigrica

Why did it end? And, in the third, this lafa continues?

I wrote in this Temka that I bought my son specifically with the Internet Kindle 3:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=98894.0
julifera
Quote: lesik_l

Today I looked for the 3rd Amazon Kindle - there is. Free of charge in Ukraine + 100 more countries.

And they also have Wi-Fi. Only with advertising I did not understand: some have it, others do not, but they are more expensive. What is this advertisement?

Mine came with advertising and at a cheaper price than non-advertising, but I came from Repka with advertising already removed + also Russified.
In principle, advertising is removed by firmware if that.
Giraffe
I ordered myself pocket 611. My daughter said, well, okay, there are no color pictures. Anyway, we will not be able to afford a better option. The husband is already grumbling that it is expensive for a reader, add a little and buy a laptop. And about the cheholchiks, where is Temka?

Completed, found.
Lisss's
juliferaWhat kind of advertising is this? what does it look like and how does it interfere in the reading room?

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