Buddha2291
Comrades! Heal with advice - you need a bread maker exclusively for baking the simplest dietary bread with a minimum of ingredients, that is, ideally, generally from flour and water :) The ability to bake yeast-free and rye, perhaps also with sourdough and Borodinsky is obligatory. Any jams, dumplings, dough and other "chocolatier, sommelier" are not interested by definition :) So I had my eyes on the senior Panasonic (Panasonic SD-ZB2502BTS) (due to the authority and quality of the company), but, as far as I understand, he only rye can bake?
sazalexter
Buddha2291, Yeast-free bread, matzo, chapatis, Armenian lavash, not a single CP will bake, there are no such in nature.
Any HP will bake a soda cupcake.
On a starter culture from a mixture of wild yeast and lactic acid bacteria, in automatic mode only Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20 https://Mcooker-en.icdself.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=159825.0 well, maybe Bork X800 https://Mcooker-en.icdself.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=141429.0 and also Brand 3801 https://Mcooker-en.icdself.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=160273.0
Everything else is in semi-manual mode with proofing in the cabinet or in the oven.
Panasonic SD-ZB2502BTS is an excellent HP machine that bakes any bread other than the chapatis and matzo listed above https://Mcooker-en.icdself.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=197192.3160
Buddha2291
Thank you. Only now ... what can you say about the Yandex-market information, where, according to the parameter "yeast-free baking", 41 cars come out? Including Panasonic 2500, which does not bake rye? Is this Market cheating? Or do you mean baked goods - not bread?
sazalexter
Buddha2291This is just the illiteracy of marketers. Yeast-free bread, matzo, chapatis, Armenian lavash (many types of African and cakes from the Middle East) will not be baked by any HP, there are no such in nature.
Soda cake, ammonia bread https://Mcooker-en.icdself.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=102471.0 please, any HP
All other baked goods are yeast by definition, there can be no other way.
Buddha2291
Thank you again :) Then Panasonic, there's nothing to think about :) Here's just another option with Borodino bread flashed somewhere, but, if I'm not mistaken, Toshiba debuted on the oven market a year or two ago with a very good Japanese pot ... I'll see ...
sazalexter
Buddha2291, "Borodinsky" is one of the most difficult breads, Panasonic bakes it successfully https://Mcooker-en.icdself.com/index.php@option=com_smf&action=recipe;b=263;start=0
_anya_
I'm going to buy this oven. But I will bake 90% of rye, coarse wheat, peeled flour and exclusively without yeast. which oven is right?
MariV
_anya_, Anya, without yeast - how is it? On soda?
_anya_
Quote: MariV

_anya_, Anya, without yeast - how is it? On soda?

and without soda too, for example with sourdough
sazalexter
_anya_, And yeast in the leaven, what to do with it?
MariV
_anya_, Anya, we follow this link and read, please https://Mcooker-en.icdself.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=43227.0.

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